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MTRodaba2468 09-22-11 09:11 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by LosingMyMind (Post 10931884)
Fuck this set
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Fucking really?? -ohbfrank-

You could have sent me a PM if you were looking to completely waste 90 bucks. I could have easily helped you achieve that goal...

Texan26 09-22-11 09:11 PM

re: Star Wars
 
hmmm. Here are actual sales numbers. Not some dumb units sold per 100 number.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118043276


Consumers were willing to shell out top dollar for the complete "Star Wars" franchise, which bowed on Blu-ray for the first time this week, with the collection selling more than 1 million units to break records for the high-definition homevideo format.
The nine-disc set generated more than $84 million from worldwide sales, with $38 million collected in the U.S. alone, from 515,000 units in North America. On average, the collection is priced at $79.99.

The sales figures made "Star Wars: The Complete Saga" the No. 1 pre-order and catalog title since the launch of Blu-ray in 2006.

Guru Askew 09-22-11 09:23 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Seeing bitter nerds trying to spin an $80 catalog box set selling 65% as many copies as a $20 new release in half the time as a failure is one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen on this forum.

You guys did it! Yay!

Boba Fett 09-22-11 09:36 PM

re: Star Wars
 
The LOTR EEs sold almost 600,000 copies first week. X-Men sold around 825,000 last week. If you go with a conservative estimate of a 50% sales drop in week two, then you can estimate SW sold around 545,000 copies.

EDIT: Started this post before the above post.

Texan26 09-22-11 09:42 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 10934643)
The LOTR EEs sold almost 600,000 copies first week. X-Men sold around 825,000 last week. If you go with a conservative estimate of a 50% sales drop in week two, then you can estimate SW sold around 545,000 copies.

EDIT: Started this post before the above post.

Nope, LOTR EE only sold around 300,000 on it's first week. Linky link: http://www.the-numbers.com/interacti...hp?newsID=6378

Like I said #1 on one week does not necessarily mean better than a #3 title for another week

Guru Askew 09-22-11 09:50 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Texan26 (Post 10934651)
Nope, LOTR EE only sold around 300,000 on it's first week. Linky link: http://www.the-numbers.com/interacti...hp?newsID=6378

Like I said #1 on one week does not necessarily mean better than a #3 title for another week

Releasing this thing on a Friday was a huge mistake*

*in some alternate universe where the napkin math of a bunch of biased nerds is worth anything

Boba Fett 09-22-11 09:53 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Texan26 (Post 10934651)
Nope, LOTR EE only sold around 300,000 on it's first week. Linky link: http://www.the-numbers.com/interacti...hp?newsID=6378

Like I said #1 on one week does not necessarily mean better than a #3 title for another week

I'm not trying to argue, but that article says Sucker Punch the same week had 49% of total sales in Blu, while the figures I pulled from said 61%.

Either way, the SW set sold well. I retract my earlier assumptions.

Jason 09-22-11 10:09 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 10934529)
I remember when Attack of the Clones was beaten by Spiderman in 2002, as that was the first SW movie ever to be #2 overall for the year, and fans starting saying, "Well, we're #2 for the year, that's not bad!"

Star Wars is a such a popular series that spans generations of fans, no movie, DVD, Bluray should ever be #2.

Star Wars has it's own Manifest Destiny now?

I think this is just another way to belittle Luca$. If it had debuted at #1, we would be hearing about how the mindless sheeple buying it over and over again. Damned it you do, damned if you don't.

Guru Askew 09-22-11 10:15 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Everything I've seen indicates that a Nielsen week is Mon-Sun. I so wanted to find that it was the traditional Sun-Sat week because that would have made the SW sales even more impressive but even so you're looking at 3 days vs. Thor's 6 when you're comparing figures.

Doubling the SW sales figures to estimate 6-day sales would be the epitome of stupid internet napkin math but still, the fact that this $80-90 box set sold 65% as many copies in only 50% of the time is all that needs to be said.

Maybe one of the mods can digitally "improve" the last two pages of this thread to make it look like a lot of people didn't have it completely wrong re: this title's sales performance.

The moral of the story? Memes and 1-star Amazon reviews had little to no effect on this thing.

N8 Storm 09-22-11 10:22 PM

re: Star Wars
 
deadline.com:

Looks like that boycott called by hardcore fans didn’t amount to much. Nor were buyers perturbed by some very controversial changes in the 9-disc Blu-ray release of Star Wars: The Complete Saga with 40 hours of extras. Instead, the Complete Saga on Blu-ray release broke global sales records with 1 million units sold and $84 million filling cash registers. It quickly becomes the #1 pre-order and #1 catalog title since the launch of the high-definition format. Needless to say, Lucasfilm Ltd and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment are high-fiving today’s announcement that Star Wars is the bestselling catalog Blu-ray Disc of all time, including 515,000 units sold in North America in its first week alone. This worldwide consumer spend included $38 million in North America – unprecedented for a 9-disc Blu-ray collection at a premium price
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star...sales-records/

Guru Askew 09-22-11 11:37 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by N8 Storm (Post 10934700)

Part of me* is actually glad that the UOT "Rebel Alliance" had a few hours of blissful ignorance as they ran with their belief that the sales were poor and that evil Emperor Luca$ was learning all sorts of lessons and being humbled and stuff. Guys, was it fun while it lasted?

*my asshole

PopcornTreeCt 09-23-11 12:59 AM

re: Star Wars
 
Pretty impressive numbers. Hopefully this will speed up an Indiana Jones release.

Spottedfeather 09-23-11 01:57 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 10934657)
Releasing this thing on a Friday was a huge mistake*

*in some alternate universe where the napkin math of a bunch of biased nerds is worth anything

Releasing it any day was a huge mistake....

Spottedfeather 09-23-11 01:58 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10934838)
Pretty impressive numbers. Hopefully this will speed up an Indiana Jones release.

THAT will a first day buy for me.

LosingMyMind 09-23-11 05:46 AM

re: Star Wars
 
Nice job, Mr. Lucas. You really know how to appeal to the masses :up: :)

mcnabb 09-23-11 06:29 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 10934788)
Part of me* is actually glad that the UOT "Rebel Alliance" had a few hours of blissful ignorance as they ran with their belief that the sales were poor and that evil Emperor Luca$ was learning all sorts of lessons and being humbled and stuff. Guys, was it fun while it lasted?

*my asshole


Hey, I'll be the first to congratulate Mr. Lucas on the success of the BluRay sales last week. To me this is like an election, you fight like hell for your side to be heard, but when the results come out and you lose, you take it like a man. What can you do, the Star Wars fanbase is so big and so diverse, the numbers are astounding sometimes.

Now I will go into hiding on Tatooine for the next 20 years waiting for A New Hope to help defeat the Evil Empire :)

Jcheckel 09-23-11 08:05 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 10934462)
But considering that this was a box set that cost around $70-90 compared to the #1 and #2 movies that are what, $20-25? Third place isn't that bad in that sense.

And it was released on Friday, not with the rest of the Tuesday releases. So it had only 3 days worth of sales on that chart, not 6 like the other stuff that came out that week.

adrenaline78 09-23-11 08:44 AM

re: Star Wars
 
in 2004 VHS was pretty much extinct.. and DVD was very widespread and popular. So it isn't surprising that the dvd sales were huge.

this is 2011 and dvd is still larger than blu-ray by a long shot.. so it's not surprising that the blu-ray didn't perform like it's dvd release 7 years prior.

I thought by looking at the numbers, and sheer copies still left at the store, this release did very well!

Gizmo 09-23-11 09:31 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Jcheckel (Post 10935006)
And it was released on Friday, not with the rest of the Tuesday releases. So it had only 3 days worth of sales on that chart, not 6 like the other stuff that came out that week.

Look at those numbers again after I tell you that there are 40+ million BD Players in homes in the USA.

arminius 09-23-11 09:35 AM

re: Star Wars
 
I think you have to let Lucas have his way with Star Wars. It's really all he has. He was just smart enough to realize that and capitalize on it. His friends like Spielberg and Coppola have a body of work, he just has this. I think it is a shame that he can't put out the originals but he does seem like a spiteful little guy, as per the ex wife thing. He's just the same guy he always was but now with a ton of money and a golden goose.

I remember back in the 80s whenever I heard the scream of a TIE fighter on a tv commercial it always gave me a thrill. I took my kids to all 3 movies when they were rereleased. Now, after the prequels and all the other baggage, I no longer really care. As for my kids, Harry Potter or LOTR are much more important to them. I remember thinking what a great idea it would be for him to do a trilogy of trilogies, now I would rather he just stop.

tylergfoster 09-23-11 11:53 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by adrenaline78 (Post 10935062)
in 2004 VHS was pretty much extinct.. and DVD was very widespread and popular. So it isn't surprising that the dvd sales were huge.

this is 2011 and dvd is still larger than blu-ray by a long shot.. so it's not surprising that the blu-ray didn't perform like it's dvd release 7 years prior.

This is a good point. The wait to see Star Wars on DVD was much longer, and it was more of an upgrade to see it jump from VHS to DVD than from DVD to Blu.

applesandrice 09-23-11 12:05 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Leave us not forget that despite its only having been available in stores for 3 days (where it hasn't exactly been flying off shelves), these sets had been available for pre-order for MONTHS. These sales figures do not represent the slam dunk that this release should have been. Despite the past year of hype and all the pro-Lucas spin, "Star Wars" on Blu-ray is characterized by mediocrity, missed opportunities, greed, disappointment, and outright failure.

al_bundy 09-23-11 12:32 PM

re: Star Wars
 
i added them to my netflix queue. might buy the next release in a few years

fumanstan 09-23-11 12:48 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10935130)
Look at those numbers again after I tell you that there are 40+ million BD Players in homes in the USA.

Still a success.

BMAG 09-23-11 01:33 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by al_bundy (Post 10935414)
i added them to my qwikster queue. Might buy the next release in a few years

ftfy


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