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Mike86 10-14-10 05:23 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by droidguy1119 (Post 10430479)
uhhh...? When did digipaks become a bane on the packaging world?

I don't mind them normally but its so boring and cheap looking. From the picture it looks like all the packaging consists of is a clear digipack with no artwork whatsoever and a slipcover. Add to that the fact that Universal always has to use that ugly ass disc label that is pretty much all one color with no graphics or anything. The set is just plain and not pleasing to look at. Not to mention the stacking of discs.

At this point I think they are my least favorite company when it comes to releasing discs. They barely have any decent catalog titles out and when they get some out they always manage to drop the ball in some aspect of a release big time. It just seems like they don't even care about the product they put out and are just looking for a quick cash grab. A shame as a release like this should be given much better treatment.

Artman 10-14-10 05:36 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 10430934)
They barely have any decent catalog titles out and when they get some out they always manage to drop the ball in some aspect of a release big time. A shame as a release like this should be given much better treatment.

I suppose we should consider ourselves lucky they didn't misframe them this time! Who knows, that may yet come up...

The set is probably a solid release for the most part, but these latest negatives may have just been enough for me to postpone a purchase this yr. Maybe next spring we'll either have a good sale, or word on possible separate releases - of course, they'll probably be flippers!

nickdawgy 10-15-10 02:13 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Now people are complaining about the packaging?

:lol:

What's next? Bad shrink wrapping? The discs were turned upside down so the logo didn't look right when I opened the box?

Yavin 10-15-10 02:18 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10432422)
Now people are complaining about the packaging?

This is nothing new.

dolphinboy 10-15-10 02:33 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10432422)
Now people are complaining about the packaging?

:lol:

What's next? Bad shrink wrapping? The discs were turned upside down so the logo didn't look right when I opened the box?

Don't lump everyone in together.

It's different to talk about the artwork or how flimsy the box is to these digipaks where the discs are "locked" in and have to be bent a little and then you need to slide them a bit to get them back in place.

I have a difficult time believing anyone is a fan of these and if you say it's no big deal, I think you're just trying to rip people for having an genuine problem with genuinely poorly designed cases.

I don't believe I've ever seen someone make a case that they liked these newly designed digis over the ones where you had a hub in the middle and merely needed to pull the disc up carefully and push the disc back down carefully. I wouldn't have made a peep had it been the old design. These new ones are sh*tty and I hope people make a fuss, if for no other reason than to hopefully get them to go back to the old design when they do release anything else in digipaks.

T-bone22 10-15-10 02:36 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Bluray.com's got a review up

Gizmo 10-15-10 02:59 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
And that's exactly why I don't trust them for reviews.

dolphinboy 10-15-10 03:04 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by T-bone22 (Post 10432461)
Bluray.com's got a review up

I think that's the 3rd review I've seen and they've all been very positive. I'm not at all worried anymore about the transfer. Some people can pick anything apart, but for my eyes, it looked good and now that people have seen it and reviewed it, I'm looking forward to getting it even more.

Just not looking forward to putting the movies in separate sleeves.

TomOpus 10-15-10 08:32 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10432502)
And that's exactly why I don't trust them for reviews.

Then you've seen the blu-ray and disagree with the review?

nickdawgy 10-15-10 09:23 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 10432456)
Don't lump everyone in together.

It's different to talk about the artwork or how flimsy the box is to these digipaks where the discs are "locked" in and have to be bent a little and then you need to slide them a bit to get them back in place.

I have a difficult time believing anyone is a fan of these and if you say it's no big deal, I think you're just trying to rip people for having an genuine problem with genuinely poorly designed cases.

I don't believe I've ever seen someone make a case that they liked these newly designed digis over the ones where you had a hub in the middle and merely needed to pull the disc up carefully and push the disc back down carefully. I wouldn't have made a peep had it been the old design. These new ones are sh*tty and I hope people make a fuss, if for no other reason than to hopefully get them to go back to the old design when they do release anything else in digipaks.


Call me old fashioned but I buy Blu-Ray's to watch them, not to look at the packaging and bitch. If this was some ultimate edition and came in a bag and three paper sleeves I might get upset.

Artman 10-15-10 09:54 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10433035)
Call me old fashioned but I buy Blu-Ray's to watch them, not to look at the packaging and bitch.

This is an enthusiast forum. I don't think anyone thinks packaging is anywhere near the most important issue - but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be commented on when one comes along that is less than ideal. If you don't want to comment on it you don't have to.

AmityBoatTours 10-15-10 10:27 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 10430586)
I can't see it that clearly from my iPhone at work, so please tell me what I'm missing. It looks on my screen more like the standard digi-paks with a hub in the middle and that you lift up and not push and slide like the miserable House packaging.

Am I just seeing it wrong or is it that clear that it's the push and slide style?

oh no this sucks its the same style digi pack we got with alliance's scream trilogy box set. i wouldnt have minded digi packaging if it had a individual hub for each disc. I had to swap them into a traditional 3 disc case because it was begining to feel like each time i took either scream 2 or 3 out that it was making the disc increasingly likely to break in the future.

Dont get me wrong it doesnt change the fact that iam getting the set and that the movies are what matter most, its just ashame they are using a packaging style that has had known and reported issues with causeing disc damage.

Groucho 10-15-10 10:47 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10433035)
Call me old fashioned but I buy Blu-Ray's to watch them, not to look at the packaging and bitch.

:mad: You're dead to me.

nickdawgy 10-15-10 11:09 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10433172)
:mad: You're dead to me.

:(

:lol:

Gizmo 10-15-10 11:36 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10432965)
Then you've seen the blu-ray and disagree with the review?

Did Universal send me a copy to personally review? No. Did they send it to someone else I know? Yes.

But since I am not reviewing it, I'm sure as hell not writing any comments on it. I'll let the "Insiders" go crazy over this crap.

TomOpus 10-16-10 12:32 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10433225)
Did Universal send me a copy to personally review? No. Did they send it to someone else I know? Yes.

But since I am not reviewing it, I'm sure as hell not writing any comments on it. I'll let the "Insiders" go crazy over this crap.

I don't get why, since you've seen it first-hand, you won't make comments. What does not reviewing it have to do with it? I'm not trying to be difficult, just curious since many of us would love to hear first-hand comments.

kstublen 10-16-10 02:47 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
One of the things I like about Blu-ray is that a lot of the packages are more uniform. Unless it's a big set (like Battlestar Galactica) I'm not interested in getting oddly shaped packages. I think I'll pass on this, as much as I want it, for the time being in hopes that eventually they'll run out of digipaks and put it in regular keep cases. The individual seasons of Lost fit that many discs in one Blu-ray case, why couldn't they do the same for Back To The Future?

JimRochester 10-16-10 08:05 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10433035)
Call me old fashioned but I buy Blu-Ray's to watch them, not to look at the packaging and bitch. If this was some ultimate edition and came in a bag and three paper sleeves I might get upset.

Isn't the whole purpose of this website is to trash every disc before during and after the release? Every disc ever released has been disparaged over; the artwork, the price, the better price a few weeks later, the quality of the transfer, the packaging, and the insert.

Don't get me started on the extras. No matter what was included, one of the 9 trailers wasn't in HD and now I have to keep my original set because the 2 minute interview with the caterer discussing the food the star gets isn't included so now I got screwed the cheap bastards. :brickwl2:

tylergfoster 10-16-10 01:18 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by JimRochester (Post 10433432)
one of the 9 trailers wasn't in HD and now I have to keep my original set because the 2 minute interview with the caterer discussing the food the star gets isn't included so now I got screwed the cheap bastards. :brickwl2:

WAIT ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Canceling my pre order.

Mike86 10-16-10 01:37 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Yeah guys you're all hilarious and oh so witty with the sarcastic remarks -rolleyes-... Seriously, when you buy a Blu-ray you don't factor in how its packaged at all? I mean this is a $50 item excuse me and others for expecting something decent, and from the picture that was shown it just seems like they could have done better. I would have even been more satisfied with just a Lord of the Rings style box with 2 cases that each hold 3 discs.

Groucho 10-16-10 01:40 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
A TV is $5000 and nobody gives a shit how that is boxed.

Mike86 10-16-10 01:46 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10433870)
A TV is $5000 and nobody gives a shit how that is boxed.

Uh yeah because you aren't keeping the box..and yeah I actually do give a shit that its boxed correctly because if its just thrown in there it could easily be damaged. Packaging serves a purpose to protect the item it contains as well as to look appealing to the consumer..

PopcornTreeCt 10-16-10 01:48 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Maybe the UK release will have slightly different packaging.

The Cow 10-16-10 01:51 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 10433865)
... Seriously, when you buy a Blu-ray you don't factor in how its packaged at all? I mean this is a $50 item excuse me and others for expecting something decent, and from the picture that was shown it just seems like they could have done better. I would have even been more satisfied with just a Lord of the Rings style box with 2 cases that each hold 3 discs.

Some people do, some people don't. I don't really care how they are packaged, and it's just fine that you do. Most of my discs don't live in their original cases. :shrug:

doctorthodt 10-16-10 01:53 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 10433865)
Yeah guys you're all hilarious and oh so witty with the sarcastic remarks -rolleyes-... Seriously, when you buy a Blu-ray you don't factor in how its packaged at all?

I get just as annoyed as most folks when things are packaged poorly, but ultimately it doesn't affect my decision about whether to purchase something.

I think it's pretty funny that people are getting all up in arms about other people lamenting about packaging decisions though. If we couldn't complain about trivial bullshit on the internet, then this place would be a ghost town. You'd think most people would be used to it by now.

Supermallet 10-16-10 02:00 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 10433865)
Yeah guys you're all hilarious and oh so witty with the sarcastic remarks -rolleyes-... Seriously, when you buy a Blu-ray you don't factor in how its packaged at all?

The only time I care about the packaging is if it's going to damage the discs or if it's going to drive up the price. I recall the "blood pack" version of Ichi The Killer made it difficult to remove the disc without damaging it, so I didn't get that one. The first issue of the complete Shield box set also had a reputation for scratching discs, skipped that. Then it's something like The Wizard of Oz Blu-ray, which was in a huge box with tons of physical extras I didn't need, so I went to Target and got the 3-disc version in a regular digipak. Other than that, I don't care too much. I've never even replaced the cardboard cases on my first issue Criterion Blu-rays although Criterion is offering replacement cases.


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10433892)
Maybe the UK release will have slightly different packaging.

But then it will have UK ratings labels!!!%^&*%

Gizmo 10-16-10 02:10 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10433870)
A TV is $5000 and nobody gives a shit how that is boxed.

You put TV boxes on your shelves? Damn.

tylergfoster 10-16-10 03:01 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10433920)
But then it will have UK ratings labels!!!%^&*%

*weeps* leave me ALONE

Supermallet 10-16-10 03:02 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
:lol: It's all from a place of love.

nickdawgy 10-16-10 09:35 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Packaging isn't an issue for me. I see people complaining abou the new Xbox 360 cases that are better for the environment and such....who cares? If it holds my disc(s), and keeps it safe, great.

I did have an issue about some games (not sure if they ever did this with movies) having four discs and three are in the case while the fourth is in a plain sleeve. That's just lazy and stupid. But even then, it wouldn't keep me from buying it. You can always buy new cases.

RocShemp 10-16-10 10:15 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 10429972)
I thought this was pretty cool.......

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uM6Ms621898?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uM6Ms621898?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

To this day, I want a Delorean. :up:

Gizmo 10-16-10 11:36 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10434835)
Packaging isn't an issue for me. I see people complaining abou the new Xbox 360 cases that are better for the environment and such....who cares? If it holds my disc(s), and keeps it safe, great.

I did have an issue about some games (not sure if they ever did this with movies) having four discs and three are in the case while the fourth is in a plain sleeve. That's just lazy and stupid. But even then, it wouldn't keep me from buying it. You can always buy new cases.

The Eco cases are just so the studios can save money on plastic and shipping. Don't kid yourself and think they did it because they care.

AmityBoatTours 10-16-10 11:44 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 10434835)
Packaging isn't an issue for me. I see people complaining abou the new Xbox 360 cases that are better for the environment and such....who cares? If it holds my disc(s), and keeps it safe, great.I did have an issue about some games (not sure if they ever did this with movies) having four discs and three are in the case while the fourth is in a plain sleeve. That's just lazy and stupid. But even then, it wouldn't keep me from buying it. You can always buy new cases.

The problem is the way the packaging looks in the photos, it looks like the canadian release of the scream trilogy where on the side of the packaging that holds scream 2 and 3 has one single hub in the middle to hold one disc then the second disc squeezes on top of the disc below, with the only thing holding it is the plastic being a bit smaller than the actual disc with 2 little notches to hold it in place. But this design puts a lot of stress on the disc and makes it feel as if you are going to eventually crack or break the disc if you remove it and replace it to many times. several people have claimed warping and or breaking scream 2 due to this design.

so while i will be buying this i plan on moving the discs into a standard bluray style case.

The Monkees 10-16-10 11:52 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Unless the picture quality is completely sub-par (but from what's I've seen it doesn't bother me) and I mean really, really, REALLY messed up then I don't care about the packaging or anything else. I'm still buying this on the 26th.

WMAangel 10-17-10 01:28 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Similar to what I mentioned over in the Apocalypse Now thread (regarding the DVD-sized packaging for the 3-disc version).....if you don't like this digipack for BTTF, just buy a regular 3-disc Elite case and print out some custom cover art for it....

nickdawgy 10-17-10 01:39 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by WMAangel (Post 10435135)
Similar to what I mentioned over in the Apocalypse Now thread (regarding the DVD-sized packaging for the 3-disc version).....if you don't like this digipack for BTTF, just buy a regular 3-disc Elite case and print out some custom cover art for it....

Too much of a hassle. Most of the time, you just see the side of the case while it's on a shelf. So even if you hated the cover art, you wouldn't see it much.

Spottedfeather 10-17-10 02:03 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10433935)
You put TV boxes on your shelves? Damn.

5000 for a tv ? You're getting ripped off.

I Like Me 1337 10-17-10 06:29 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
So no U.S. versions of the Collector's Tin Edition or the DeLorean Edition that are listed on amazon.co.uk going to be available anywhere in the U.S.?

Will UK Blu-ray Discs play in my U.S. Playstation 3 correctly? Are the 480i extras (I'm assuming not all the special features on the BTTF Trilogy are 1080p, correct?) encoded in PAL? Does the PS3 convert it to NTSC (or whatever HDTV standard it needs to be to play correctly)?

The DeLorean edition doesn't look like it has the collector's tin contents so I think I'll go with the collector's tin over the DeLorean edition. So how does buying something from amazon uk work? Is it a lot to ship and does it take a long time to get to my house? About how much total do you think it would be to get the collector's tin if I live in Arizona? Are there US based sites that make it easier to buy imported Blu-ray box sets like this or is the safest way amazon uk since I've never had a problem with the regular amazon.com?

jdslater1 10-17-10 07:06 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I have a US PS3 and a UK Sony 570 BD player so when I get my collecters tin I will test them out on both.

Hopefully that will help a few folks.

Also have you seen the DeLorean set? The model looks awful!

tylergfoster 10-17-10 08:59 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by I Like Me 1337 (Post 10435221)
So no U.S. versions of the Collector's Tin Edition or the DeLorean Edition that are listed on amazon.co.uk going to be available anywhere in the U.S.?

Will UK Blu-ray Discs play in my U.S. Playstation 3 correctly? Are the 480i extras (I'm assuming not all the special features on the BTTF Trilogy are 1080p, correct?) encoded in PAL? Does the PS3 convert it to NTSC (or whatever HDTV standard it needs to be to play correctly)?

The DeLorean edition doesn't look like it has the collector's tin contents so I think I'll go with the collector's tin over the DeLorean edition. So how does buying something from amazon uk work? Is it a lot to ship and does it take a long time to get to my house? About how much total do you think it would be to get the collector's tin if I live in Arizona? Are there US based sites that make it easier to buy imported Blu-ray box sets like this or is the safest way amazon uk since I've never had a problem with the regular amazon.com?

1: A foreign BD will only play in the US PS3 if it the discs are not region locked. I don't know if Back to the Future is region locked, although the chances are a little lower, since the release is coming out worldwide and the studio has nothing to lose if they don't region-lock.

2: The PS3 does not convert PAL to NTSC, but as you already seem to know, any content in HD will play just fine (again, assuming the discs aren't region locked).

3: Buying something from Amazon.co.uk is easy. Doesn't require anything more or less than it takes to buy something from Amazon.com; the process is identical.

4: Shipping from the UK is not a significantly large amount.

5: It's definitely better to buy straight from Amazon.co.uk; anyone I've ever seen who imports then resells in the US jacks the price up, there's no benefit to them otherwise.

I just pre-ordered the tin. The price dropped in checkout, too, so it's slightly cheaper than the posted price. In any case, what I was planning on doing was buying both the UK and the American sets, and just putting the American package into the tin, then reselling the UK set, since it looks like the standard retail version is just packed into the tin, along with the goodies.


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