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Julie Walker 10-17-10 02:00 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10435016)
The Eco cases are just so the studios can save money on plastic and shipping. Don't kid yourself and think they did it because they care.

Exactly, these 'eco cases' are just a huge joke and really lousy in quality and I wish they'd not bother with this crap. If anyone thinks they're truly 'saving the environment' by buying such cases, and studios really 'care', they're fooling themselves.

Abe. 10-17-10 02:14 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
One reason I like the eco cases is because they weigh a lot less and put less stress on a shelf. It's the only positive thing I can think of in regards to the cases.

dolphinboy 10-17-10 02:39 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by jdslater1 (Post 10435235)
I have a US PS3 and a UK Sony 570 BD player so when I get my collecters tin I will test them out on both.

Hopefully that will help a few folks.

Also have you seen the DeLorean set? The model looks awful!

Thanks.

Since you're in London, have you heard anything about the regular BTTF set? I know you're getting the tin and will report back about whether all the SD special features will play in the US, but I'm wondering if you've heard anything about the packaging of the standard set?

I'd probably buy the regular set, without the goodies, from amazon.uk if it doesn't come in the same packaging as the US version. The ones with the pop out and slide digipaks.

If you've heard anything about the regular set, would you please report back about that too?

jdslater1 10-18-10 01:26 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Will do Dolphinboy.
I have a HMV close to where I work. The tin is ordered through Play so no doubt I won't be in when they deliver it!

In regards to Eco-cases, I always like it when they pair them up with a cardboard slipcase!

Josh Z 10-18-10 03:09 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by JimRochester (Post 10433432)
Isn't the whole purpose of this website is to trash every disc before during and after the release?

No, that's the mission statement at AVSForum. :)

melvin 10-19-10 04:44 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1284504
From the review for those interested about the packaging:
**It should be noted that the trifold style Blu-ray case containing the discs is unlike any that I have seen and can make removal of the discs frustrating if you don’t know how. Each set of discs (the Blu-ray and digital copy for each), occupies its own section in the trifold arrangement. Unfold the set so that all three are visible and lay it on a flat surface (the Blu-ray Disc is on top of the digital copy). Looking at the bottom of the cutout where the disc is there are two plastics tabs that act as springs to keep the disc in place. Apply pressure by sliding the disc (top toward the tabs) and lifting it out. Replacing it is done in the reverse. The same goes for the digital copy underneath which will become obvious once the Blu-ray disc is removed. **

NiCK Crush 10-19-10 05:42 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
That reviewer never saw The Office Season Six packaging then.

doctorthodt 10-19-10 05:44 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I believe House season 6 is also the same. Unifrigginversal.

dolphinboy 10-19-10 07:31 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Any review of a BD that uses the word slide the disc makes my stomach sour. I really hope that a review of the regular, non tin, set gets posted soon. It has only 3 discs but it's still possible that it's got the House design with 2 discs on top of each other on the left, with the 3rd movie alone on the right. And then there's the question of the standard def special features.

With all the complaining, I can see why people are turned off by it, but I can't see why people criticize those of use who don't want to slide our discs to take them out and put them in. That's just a major problem to me. And if you're making your own art and using a different case, then you shouldn't be ripping on people who don't or can't do that.

ScissorPuppy 10-19-10 11:44 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Ok I am hearing that the SD special features are not always PAL on UK Blu releases. Is that possible? Is that true? If so, what is the deal with BTTF and the Alien boxsets? Are the carried over SD features PAL or NTSC?

tylergfoster 10-20-10 07:54 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by ScissorPuppy (Post 10440724)
Ok I am hearing that the SD special features are not always PAL on UK Blu releases. Is that possible? Is that true? If so, what is the deal with BTTF and the Alien boxsets? Are the carried over SD features PAL or NTSC?

It's not that they would be NTSC, it's just that they would be encoded in 480p, I think.

Mr. Cinema 10-20-10 07:56 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
This is in my gold box today for $45.59. Debating on whether or not to order now.

Living Dead 10-20-10 01:56 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I'm in for the UK set if it's confirmed to be completely unlocked for PS3.

dolphinboy 10-20-10 03:30 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Living Dead (Post 10441634)
I'm in for the UK set if it's confirmed to be completely unlocked for PS3.

I fully expect there will be no problems with it being locked or any of the special features being in PAL, but I am surprised that no one has posted anything yet. Quite a few people already have it and usually, by now, someone has confirmed this information.

I still have it pre-ordered with Amazon.UK, but absolute confirmation would be nice.

Kal Varnsen 10-20-10 08:24 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
So what is the total price for the UK set from Amazon UK after shipping, VAT removed, etc in US dollars?

dolphinboy 10-20-10 09:04 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Kal Varnsen (Post 10442483)
So what is the total price for the UK set from Amazon UK after shipping, VAT removed, etc in US dollars?

$43.89. That's the price Amazon.uk will charge me, including shipping, for the basic 3 disc set. Of course, I will cancel should someone state the extras are in PAL. (please god let the answer come soon)

Kal Varnsen 10-20-10 09:18 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 10442559)
$43.89. That's the price Amazon.uk will charge me, including shipping, for the basic 3 disc set. Of course, I will cancel should someone state the extras are in PAL. (please god let the answer come soon)

I meant the collector's set with the tin. Why is the regular UK set better than the US set?

TomOpus 10-20-10 09:59 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
DVD Beaver...another positive review.

dolphinboy 10-20-10 10:09 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Kal Varnsen (Post 10442585)
I meant the collector's set with the tin. Why is the regular UK set better than the US set?

For me, it's the inside design of the digipak. The US one is the same used for House and The Office where you need to "unlock" the disc on top by pushing down and lifting, then the tricky and risky part, in my opinion, of doing that in reverse to get it back in.

The UK has no digital copies and each disc with actual artwork on this disc, nice but not essential for me, has it's on hub that it rests on like any normal blu ray disc rests on in a regular case.

For me, this is HUGE. For others...not so much (unless they're making their own cases, I'm still not sure why more people don't HATE these new digis).

The Monkees 10-21-10 12:23 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10442670)
DVD Beaver...another positive review.

Interesting they don't show any shots from II or III

Evan Meadow 10-21-10 02:22 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 10442874)
Interesting they don't show any shots from II or III

Something tells me that's not the BTTF set he's reviewing but just the first film in some sort of individual release.

tylergfoster 10-21-10 04:22 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I dunno, the caps set off my DNR-radar, but I will see it in motion sooner or later.

zekeburger1979 10-21-10 07:01 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Here's what a customer on Amazon UK had to say about the goodies:

Spoiler:
A little OUTATIME number plate (complete with packaging that notes "This item is not a toy, for adult collector's only"!) It's both neat and, of course, entirely useless. The lenticular photo of Marty's family is even nicer: tilt it correctly and the characters fade out one by one. Naturally it's still something-and-nothing, but as lenticular cards go it's one of the most effective I've seen. There's also a glossy reproduction of the photo from Part 3 of Marty and Doc Brown by the clock face, which is disappointing low-res -- it looks like it's been captured from the film itself.

Next are four reprints of prop newspaper front pages, two alternate versions of the Hill Valley Telegraph from November 7, 1955, and two alternate versions of USA Today from October 22, 2015. What these allow you to see is how much -- or, in some cases, little -- effort went into creating the actual articles on the page: the headlines and pictures may vary, but the news stories are just copied-and-pasted from goodness-knows-where. I'm sure no one in the props department ever imagined fans would have a chance to read this 25 years later! The Sports Almanac, meanwhile, is labelled "extract" and contains 8 pages of baseball stats, presumably the pages that were actually produced as a prop for the film. Like most of the rest of this stuff, it's nice but you're not exactly going to read it.

There are two double-sided A2 posters. As per the picture, the painting of Marty and the "Back to the" & "Future" numberplate ones are back-to-back, and the original release and release posters are back-to-back. The blueprint of the Delorean is also A2, with hand-scrawled text that is just about legible. There are also two sets of art cards, 11 in total, printed on nice heavy card. One set is of hoverboard designs, the other of Delorean art, including a labelled diagram of what all Doc Brown's additions actually are.

Mike86 10-21-10 09:47 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by zekeburger1979 (Post 10443087)
Here's what a customer on Amazon UK had to say about the goodies:

Spoiler:
A little OUTATIME number plate (complete with packaging that notes "This item is not a toy, for adult collector's only"!) It's both neat and, of course, entirely useless. The lenticular photo of Marty's family is even nicer: tilt it correctly and the characters fade out one by one. Naturally it's still something-and-nothing, but as lenticular cards go it's one of the most effective I've seen. There's also a glossy reproduction of the photo from Part 3 of Marty and Doc Brown by the clock face, which is disappointing low-res -- it looks like it's been captured from the film itself.

Next are four reprints of prop newspaper front pages, two alternate versions of the Hill Valley Telegraph from November 7, 1955, and two alternate versions of USA Today from October 22, 2015. What these allow you to see is how much -- or, in some cases, little -- effort went into creating the actual articles on the page: the headlines and pictures may vary, but the news stories are just copied-and-pasted from goodness-knows-where. I'm sure no one in the props department ever imagined fans would have a chance to read this 25 years later! The Sports Almanac, meanwhile, is labelled "extract" and contains 8 pages of baseball stats, presumably the pages that were actually produced as a prop for the film. Like most of the rest of this stuff, it's nice but you're not exactly going to read it.

There are two double-sided A2 posters. As per the picture, the painting of Marty and the "Back to the" & "Future" numberplate ones are back-to-back, and the original release and release posters are back-to-back. The blueprint of the Delorean is also A2, with hand-scrawled text that is just about legible. There are also two sets of art cards, 11 in total, printed on nice heavy card. One set is of hoverboard designs, the other of Delorean art, including a labelled diagram of what all Doc Brown's additions actually are.

That stuff all sounds good to me. Better than nothing and I'm glad I decided to go with this version over the US release. The main thing I wish would be answered is if the extras are playable on a US PS3 or not.

Josh Z 10-21-10 11:24 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by ScissorPuppy (Post 10440724)
Ok I am hearing that the SD special features are not always PAL on UK Blu releases. Is that possible? Is that true?

Many Blu-rays released in Europe have SD bonus features encoded in NTSC. Oftentimes, studios distribute the exact same disc in multiple countries.

Unlike the U.S., TVs in Europe are compatible with both PAL and NTSC. So viewers there won't have any problems watching NTSC features on the disc.


If so, what is the deal with BTTF and the Alien boxsets? Are the carried over SD features PAL or NTSC?
We won't know for certain until someone who actually buys the discs in Europe can confirm. I'd say that in most likelihood the supplements will be NTSC. However, there is a remote chance that the European copies could be locked to Region B.

nando820 10-21-10 01:14 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I really like the metal box that comes with the UK Limited edition. But do I need a PlayStation 3 to play this blu-ray or i can just use my Region A player? maybe is a stupid question but i never bought a disc from the UK before.

zekeburger1979 10-23-10 11:27 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by nando820 (Post 10443888)
I really like the metal box that comes with the UK Limited edition. But do I need a PlayStation 3 to play this blu-ray or i can just use my Region A player? maybe is a stupid question but i never bought a disc from the UK before.

It has been confirmed that the extras are NTSC. The discs are region free and the extras will play everywhere as well.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/attachments...68245_full.jpg


That being said, I decided not to get the UK Tin edition since I have $15 in RZ certificates from Best Buy, which makes it about $35 for me, half the price of the tin from the UK.

Strevlac 10-23-10 11:52 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by droidguy1119 (Post 10443020)
I dunno, the caps set off my DNR-radar, but I will see it in motion sooner or later.


How is seeing it in motion going to erase the effects of DNR?

Gizmo 10-23-10 12:26 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I know how some people feel about evil screencaps, but gees:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1285244

You can just see the grain disappear and the waxiness come over :(

tylergfoster 10-23-10 04:23 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10447539)
I know how some people feel about evil screencaps, but gees:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1285244

You can just see the grain disappear and the waxiness come over :(

The bizarre thing is how Michael J. Fox's normal, unnaturally smooth skin makes it look worse. The DNR present is annoying and I'd rather not have it, but all things considered it's pretty mild.

Having seen pictures of the UK version, I'm debating whether or not I'll actually re-purchase the set in the US. That was my plan, but since all the extras should play, I might just not bother.

If anyone who doesn't mind UK ratings logos wants to switch discs with me, though, I'm all for it!!* ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D

*really :(

mhg83 10-23-10 05:52 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yv_GuqTwLcE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yv_GuqTwLcE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

Living Dead 10-23-10 07:34 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by zekeburger1979 (Post 10447454)
It has been confirmed that the extras are NTSC. The discs are region free and the extras will play everywhere as well.

Not to be doubtful but what was your confirmation source? I'd like to read about it before I commit to ordering.

Timsterino 10-23-10 09:47 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Kal Varnsen (Post 10442483)
So what is the total price for the UK set from Amazon UK after shipping, VAT removed, etc in US dollars?

I checked my bank account and mine came to $62.47 USD. Of course when I ordered this it was listed on Amazon.uk at £36.57. It is now £42.97.

I can't wait to get it and based off of the Youtube video showing its' contents, I am glad I did! :)

AmityBoatTours 10-23-10 10:56 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 10448035)
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yv_GuqTwLcE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yv_GuqTwLcE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

wish he would have taken the actual discs out of the packaging so we could see if the uk version has that horrible push and pull digi packing.

AmityBoatTours 10-23-10 11:00 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Has anyone seen any custom made art work for the trilogy, that those of us who would like to simply put these into a standard 6 disc bluray case could use?

Kal Varnsen 10-24-10 05:42 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by zekeburger1979 (Post 10447454)
It has been confirmed that the extras are NTSC. The discs are region free and the extras will play everywhere as well.

Where did you see that? Do you have a link? Thanks.

Mike86 10-24-10 07:46 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Wow that is so much nicer than the US set it's unbelievable. Really glad I went with that version. I wish the US branch of Universal put in half that effort.

TomOpus 10-24-10 08:13 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
At first I wasn't that interested in the UK set. I've been trying hard to avoid special sets as much as possible. But that video makes it look much better than the static photos. Dammit.

Swiski 10-24-10 10:20 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours (Post 10448489)
wish he would have taken the actual discs out of the packaging so we could see if the uk version has that horrible push and pull digi packing.

The following video review shows the discs inside the box at about 11 minutes in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU6lYsUyIps

AmityBoatTours 10-25-10 02:06 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Swiski (Post 10448916)
The following video review shows the discs inside the box at about 11 minutes in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU6lYsUyIps

Thanks much appreciated for that link, very agravating that the universal release couldnt atleast have that style digi pack instead of what they opted for.

As much as i cant stand the us packaging i cant bring myself to spend a extra 25 bucks and week longer wait. hopefully someone will come up with a custom cover art for the trilogy (ive seen ones for the individual release) That can be used with a 6 disc case.


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