Rammsteinfan

You would think in their nearly $2.8 bil take at the global box office, they could afford to finish the extra 30 or so minutes of footage correctly not just the so called 6 minutes they did finish.

doctorthodt

Evidently Weta is "working on" the footage right now. That could just mean a little touching up here and there, or it could conceivably mean they're bringing it up to spec with the rest of the film. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Mr. Cinema

from blu-ray.com:

"During a recent sneak preview of the Blu-ray of Avatar, producer Jon Landau revealed some more details of the ultimate edition that will come out in November. This four-disc edition will include a brand-new two-hour documentary on making Avatar, as well as unused additional scenes from the movie, which Weta Digital is now working on."

Gizmo

So an Ultimate followed by a 3D? Oh Fox.

GenPion

In other words: Skip the current release! I know I will. I didn't even love Avatar, though, so I'm in no hurry to purchase it.

As someone with no interest in 3D Blu-ray's I will wait for the ultimate edition, and only then pick up the film once it goes on sale at a more reasonable price.

doctorthodt

Are there people here who actually doubt that this will supplant TDK as the highest-selling Blu-Ray title?

Gizmo

No doubt, especially since the BD is only a few dollars more and (surprise, surprise) they are packing a DVD inside to entice DVD owners to go Blu-ray.

mzupeman2

Not only that, but it's already known that Avatar's pre-orders overall have a VERY high number in the Blu-ray department.

Gizmo

Plus it's been two years since TDK - Tons more BD players in homes and far more awareness of the format. It'll do mad-ass numbers.

rexinnih

Exactly. BD penetration is much higher now and the average BD consumer has no idea/doesn't care there is a multi-disc super version coming down the line in a few months at a higher price. This will be good enough for most.

PopcornTreeCt

And yet a ton of DVDTalkers are buying it this week.

Mr. Cinema

The BD combo pack is the #1 seller on Amazon's overall list, just ahead of the DVD.

agent2099

Is anyone else dissapointed this is a combo release? Why am I being forced to by the DVD when I only want the Blu Ray disc. Seems like an excuse to just charge an extra $5 for them to print in on a 5¢ DVD disc.

doctorthodt

Seriously?

There wouldn't be a dime's worth of difference in the price of this release if it didn't come packaged with a DVD. Combo packs don't affect the price of a release, unless it's something like Disney does where there's a BD-only release and a slightly more expensive combo pack. Otherwise they tend to have the exact same MSRP as BD-only releases.

Stop complaining about free shit. You're not being "forced" to buy anything.

WMAangel

No...sure beats the hell out of them including a worthless digital copy instead....

I guarantee you this BD would still cost $20 this week at Target even if it did not include the DVD....you are not actually being charged anything extra for the inclusion of the DVD copy....

If the "bonus" included DVD bothers you that much, just throw it away once you open the case....

snausages

I agree!

Some folks have just sold the DVD and ended up happily with the Blu-ray for an even better price

Teremei

if it has a dvd also that means I can watch the movie at work on my dvd player and I don't mind that at all.

GenPion

Impossible. Right?...

iNCREDiPiNOY

Have anybody tried upgrading your 2D movies to 3D?

I might this try out upgrading Avatar HD Trailer to 3D.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how...r_2d_movies_3d

Blu Man

The movie costs $20. You'd be paying $20 for the Blu Ray with or with out the DVD. Prices have not gone up because of the inclusion of the DVD.

Kal-El

Where are the reviews for this?

Nick Martin

No reviews yet because FOX isn't providing review copies early.

RocShemp

I just rented Avatar and I'm not impressed.

It took me a while to figure out what was bothering me with the picture but then I realized it was the contrast. It's a touch off which makes the image slightly hazy. Not enough to say it's bad but enough to be noticeable (albeit faintly so).

As for the audio, although the sound effects are great, the dialogue is not. Voices sound artificial and as if they're kind of floating. The voices feel disconnected from the people who are speaking. It's worse when some vocals are panned to the side in an attempt to match the speakers location onscreen. I've heard plenty of sound mixes with similar panning but none that I recall with such a floating quality.

I'd say 4/5 for both PQ and AQ. It's good but not perfect or reference.

slop101

Do you think this is something they did in order to keep CGI elements from standing out among non-CGI elements?

RocShemp

I honestly don't know. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it was the cameras used. I recall reading that even the best digital cameras (like the RED cameras) still don't handle contrast and black levels as well as film. Perhaps that's the culprit.

It's still a highly detailed image (which is why I had a hard time figuring out what was bothering me). It's just that the contrast doesn't allow the image to "pop".

Those gripes aside, if the 4-disc version looks/sounds the same, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. But it wouldn't be my first choice to demo my system.