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The Criterion Blu Ray I want most right now is The Bad Sleep Well...
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I seriously doubt I'd buy that set. Just way too much fiddling around, especially the new "consistent" titles, the apparent cuts (?) to at least one film, that weird spot-colorization/decolorization shit on FALLEN ANGELS, and the sickly yellowing of IN THE MOOD. Was he just making work for himself because he was bored during the pandemic? Perhaps he's too old now to make actual new films? It's been seven years, so one wonders. Surely he knew there would be massive blowback on this, even if he is entitled to treat them as he pleases. I agree, the previous Criterions of IN THE MOOD and CHUNGKING are now keepers, as rocket noted above, as are the earlier Kinos of HAPPY TOGETHER and FALLEN ANGELS, I suspect.
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Those screenshots are certainly worrying. Like many, I was really looking forward to that set. I tend to be a little more forgiving than most with some of the color timing updates that other directors have done in the past, but this update looks really extreme. He should call William Friedkin and ask him how it went when he gave the French Connection a fresh new look.
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Do you think the people at Ritrovata just sit around every day scratching their heads wondering why no one else in the world has figured out that every movie ever made has a yellow tint? Every time Warner Archive or the Film Foundation or whoever put out an amazing new restoration are they just like "Wrong! What a bunch of dummies!"?
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TIFF's 'Cinematheque' up here is offering one-week digital screenings of the WKW restorations, but at $13.55 CDN I can't be bothered. However, I can imagine plenty of house-bound people will take the plunge without having seen – or being able to remember – the originals, and they probably won't suspect that something's amiss. Really, though $93 CDN to rent seven movies is ridiculous, even if some of it does go to assist TIFF (not sure if it does). Their email blast rather cagily states that each film comes with over two hours of bonus features, but in reality all six films come with the same bonus features: a lengthy Chris Doyle interview conducted at TIFF some time back, and a WKW A-Z by one of their programmers.
https://digital.tiff.net/page/tiff-c...eque-presents/ |
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
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The Criterion Blu Ray I want most right now is The Bad Sleep Well...
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They that DVD set a bunch of years ago, but I agree. I have most of Kurosawa's films now, but I'd easily pay for a complete filmography box set and donate my existing discs to the library.
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Just received The Irishman today. Was checking out the bonus content and noticed they edited 4 minutes of the roundtable discussion with Scorsese, DeNiro, Pacino & Pesci which was previously on Netflix and titled In Conversation .This one is 19 minutes, but the original is almost 24 minutes.
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
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Just received The Irishman today. Was checking out the bonus content and noticed they edited 4 minutes of the roundtable discussion with Scorsese, DeNiro, Pacino & Pesci which was previously on Netflix and titled In Conversation .This one is 19 minutes, but the original is almost 24 minutes.
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And it is listed as:
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Like others, I was looking forward to that Wong Kar Wai set but I'm very happy I didn't sell off any of my BDs or DVDs.
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 13853050)
TIFF's 'Cinematheque' up here is offering one-week digital screenings of the WKW restorations, but at $13.55 CDN I can't be bothered. However, I can imagine plenty of house-bound people will take the plunge without having seen – or being able to remember – the originals, and they probably won't suspect that something's amiss. Really, though $93 CDN to rent seven movies is ridiculous, even if some of it does go to assist TIFF (not sure if it does). Their email blast rather cagily states that each film comes with over two hours of bonus features, but in reality all six films come with the same bonus features: a lengthy Chris Doyle interview conducted at TIFF some time back, and a WKW A-Z by one of their programmers.
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I haven't seen a Criterion Blu-ray in a long-time (sure i buy the ones i love, but haven't, for reasons i have yet to discern, actually watched them) and I am so sorry I didn't. Moonstruck is a revelation. It looks so fucking good and sounds so fucking amazing. It is a sublime movie that got a sublime treatment. If anyone who doesn't have this and loves this movie, this is the version to get. Short of 4K, obviously, this movie looks stunning. Absolutely stunning for a 33 year-old movie. Just glorious. I'm going to make it a point to watch more Criterions if the transfers are this fantastic. I saw the movie in a whole new light and loved it all over again.
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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume
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I haven't been to Cinematheque Ontario in years, since it was up at the AGO. What does a regular movie ticket cost nowadays, BrianT?
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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...793d79c94.jpeg With his lush and sensual visuals, pitch-perfect soundtracks, and soulful romanticism, Wong Kar Wai has established himself as one of the defining auteurs of our time. Next March, we are celebrating his swoon-worthy cinema with the most comprehensive box set of his work ever released, including new 4K digital restorations of his acclaimed feature films As Tears Go By, Days of Being Wild, Chungking Express, Fallen Angels, Happy Together, In the Mood for Love, and 2046. This deluxe set also contains an extended version of Wong’s 2004 short film The Hand, a new Q&A with the director, archival interviews, making-of documentaries, deleted scenes and alternate endings, a French-fold book featuring lavish photography, an essay by critic John Powers, six collectible art prints, and much more.
Release: 3/23/21 https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/41...f-wong-kar-wai |
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So no Ashes of Time and no alternate versions except for Days of Being Wild. There isn't even a single mention of the fact that the Fallen Angels "restoration" is a completely new presentation of the movie.
I want to love this set so badly, but unfortunately it's going into the "wait and see pile". If the 6 films aside from Fallen Angels are presented as they should be (questionable color timing changes aside), I'll probably pick this up at some point. I still have my original In the Mood For Love and Chunking Express discs if need be. |
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Ashes of Time is getting a release if you want to import:
Welcome to joyful online shopping! It’s weird though because it is mentioned in the notes WKW put out. It is also part of the retrospective that is playing in virtual theatres. |
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What a clusterfuck. I love WKW, but I have no interest in revisionist versions of his films.
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Originally Posted by dex14
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It’s weird though because it is mentioned in the notes WKW put out. It is also part of the retrospective that is playing in virtual theatres.
Also, that Korean ASHES Blu-ray is just the Redux version. While I didn't dislike it, I still prefer the original, but after seeing what Wong's doing with his other films, the odds of seeing the original ASHES restored on Blu-ray are probably nil. As for the Criterion box, zero interest here. Way too much revisionism, as mentioned before, and that packaging looks about as flimsy (fancy designs and lush photography notwithstanding) as the Bruce Lee set which I also can't be bothered with. This growing aversion to plastic is silly. It wouldn't be so bad if they produced sets with plastic cases in solid hard-stock cases, similar to Arrow. At this rate, it seems likely that MY BLUEBERRY NIGHTS may one day stand as the only film that Wong hasn't decided was supposed to be something else entirely long after he made it. Or . . . will it? :lol: |
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What a bummer. Looks like I'll have to rebuy the Kino discs and be content with my 2046 dvd. :thmbsdwn:
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Cool packaging, but nope, I'll hold on to my original blu-rays of those WKW titles.
Though this isn't Criterion's fault, it's all on WKW. Directors insisting on this revisionist stuff is weird - especially when they try to disappear the old versions. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
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I just double checked the TIFF retrospective of his films and ASHES isn't there. Maybe it's only in certain cities or countries? I can kind of see it being left out as the others are all set in contemporary times (or close enough to it), and collectively can sort of be perceived as inhabiting the same universe, a way of thinking that Wong is clearly trying to reinforce with the matching title screens, recolouring, etc.
Also, that Korean ASHES Blu-ray is just the Redux version. While I didn't dislike it, I still prefer the original, but after seeing what Wong's doing with his other films, the odds of seeing the original ASHES restored on Blu-ray are probably nil. As for the Criterion box, zero interest here. Way too much revisionism, as mentioned before, and that packaging looks about as flimsy (fancy designs and lush photography notwithstanding) as the Bruce Lee set which I also can't be bothered with. This growing aversion to plastic is silly. It wouldn't be so bad if they produced sets with plastic cases in solid hard-stock cases, similar to Arrow. At this rate, it seems likely that MY BLUEBERRY NIGHTS may one day stand as the only film that Wong hasn't decided was supposed to be something else entirely long after he made it. Or . . . will it? :lol: |
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Looks like I’ll be the lone person in the forum to snatch up that really snazzy looking set. Only a minor WKW fan so probably doesn’t bother me as much but only if BN still has their sale come summer.
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I'll wait to see how Criterion's set compares to whatever "Novamedia" is releasing in South Korea. They claimed to be releasing 4K discs back in June, but there haven't been a whole lot of details since.
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What a beautiful set. As of now, definitely passing on it.
Hopefully I won't change my mind when the next 50% Barnes & Noble sale hits next year :lol: |
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Defending Your Life coming in March! :banana:
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Also happy that Secrets and Lies was announced but not dance wildly happy.
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Originally Posted by clckworang
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Defending Your Life coming in March! :banana:
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I really enjoyed Defending Your Life when it was on the Criterion Channel.
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Secrets & Lies and Defending Your Life. Fuck yeah!!!
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Looks like these will probably get a CC release next year.
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I’m bummed with the lack of New Year’s clues since Jason Polan passed away last year. I’d hoped they’d get a new artist... or do something else.
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Neat little video about the cult of collecting Criterions
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Just bought the Bunuel set that came out today - first blu-ray I've bought since the pandemic started!
I do wish it was an exhaustive set like their Bergman box-set, but I guess this will do. |
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April 2021:
History Is Made at Night Memories of Murder The Furies Irma Vep Masculin feminin |
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When I bought the The Furies on DVD, my wife mis-read it and thought it was The Furries and gave me no end of grief over it.
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Memories of Murder is a must and I’ll get Irma Vep and The Furies down the line.
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So psyched about Memories of Murder :banana:
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In for Godard. I've finally sworn off blind buying so I'm gonna watch Memories of Murder before I decide.
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