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Flash Sale starts at noon today!

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Every sale period I pick up and put back down Young Mr. Lincoln over and over, maybe with an upgrade I'll finally bite.

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50 minutes of deleted scenes for Breakfast Club is going to be gold...I hope. There's been years of speculation about the original, longer cut. The actors have spoken of moments they remember that were cut.

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13183456)

I'm happy to double dip and support Criterion, but the least they could do is port over everything from the 30th Anniv disc, so their release could be the definitive version and I could get rid of the disc I have. I'm on the fence.

i think the only thing missing is the trivia track.

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13184175)

i think the only thing missing is the trivia track.

There was also a short documentary on the Brat Pack that doesn't seem to be listed among the Criterion extras for Breakfast Club.

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The " Documentary from 2015 featuring interviews with cast and crew" is not the same as "Sincerely Yours: A Twelve Part Documentary." As that documentary predates 2015 by about 8 or 9 years as it was one the special features on the "Flashback" dvd I bought close to a decade ago. Unless they are mistaken about the 2015 date, they are 2 completely different documentaries.

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Wouldn't surprise me if the info mentioned in those docs overlaps with what they have produced or found in the archives and that's why they aren't there

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Would be great if new doc, but I think we would have heard about that by now...

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13181280)

Barry Lyndon reviews are coming out. No one has stated if Criterion restored the correct WB logo.

Anyone?

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13186008)

Anyone?

http://img179.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp..._122_500lo.jpg
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....o#post14133450

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opening logo of <a href="https://twitter.com/Criterion?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Criterion</a> "Barry Lyndon" ON POINT <a href="https://t.co/qPbe3cn6TD">pic.twitter.com/qPbe3cn6TD</a></p>— Glenn Kenny (@Glenn__Kenny) <a href="https://twitter.com/Glenn__Kenny/status/912478766336704512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.

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To each their own, but I know I appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13186418)

Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.

It's a very big deal for this film and The Shining. The logo is animated and moves and Kubrick replaced the standard music with music unique to each film and it creates a marvelous effect.

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Look at this botch job.

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13186418)

Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.

The film's unique score is playing over that image, so in my opinion it absolutely is part of the film.

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13186452)

It's a very big deal for this film and The Shining.

I agree.

Not a Kubrick film, but for me it was also a big deal for The Exorcist.
That opening with the old logo helps set the tone of the film.

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The original Warner logo looks like a Sumo wrestler bending over to pick something up.

I'm in agreement that the original is preferred, but I don't think it's that big a deal.

Reminds me of all the stink about the West Side Story opening credits. :)

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Originally Posted by andicus (Post 13186555)

The original Warner logo looks like a Sumo wrestler bending over to pick something up.

I'm in agreement that the original is preferred, but I don't think it's that big a deal.

Reminds me of all the stink about the West Side Story opening credits. :)

Holy shit, it does!

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 13186510)

The film's unique score is playing over that image, so in my opinion it absolutely is part of the film.

Well in this case, the music is part of the film - the logo isn't. The logo isn't Kurbricks creation or vision, the choice of music is... and that's still being presented with the new logo.

It's a corporate logo - something I'd rather not have to see in the first place when watching a film.

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13186947)

I respectfully disagree. Your position doesn't make a lot of sense to me. A film is a combination of images and sound and directors operate within the confines of the studio producing the film. Do you really think an exacting director like Kubrick didn't consciously decide to start the score over the studio logo he knew would be there? That wasn't a creative decision on his part?

I'd like to better understand where you draw these distinctions. Do you think it would matter if the Paramount logo was totally changed at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark?

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13186947)

I disrespectivly disagree. Cut it out. The mission of Criterion is to present the movie as close to its director's preference and as close to how it was exhibited at the time of release. No director more than Kubrick tried to maintain optimal conditions when his films were exhibited. The utmost care should be taken to recreate the original experience, and people with "I don't really care either way" attitudes should be silent.

Kubrick feared apathetic projectionists with that attitude. Warner has a history of indifference to technical specifications. Barry Lyndon has never been presented in its correct aspect ratio or with the correct logo by Warner. It IS a big deal that Criterion is doing it right. It IS important to do it right.

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Here's how meticulous Kubrick was when it came to the proper presentation of his film Barry Lyndon

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/....3160327970c-pi

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Kubrick wasn't the only one who cared how his movies were presented

March 27, 1998

Dear Projectionist:

Please do not place the reels of the film Armageddon upside down when projecting.

Yours sincerely,

Michael Bay

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Jaymole jokes, but Michael Bay actually did send a condescending letter to theater projectionists telling them to do their jobs better when the third Transformers movie was released.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/wp...bay-letter.jpg

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Can we send him a condescending letter telling him to make better Transformers movies?

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Even if we did, I don't think he's capable of doing so.

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Michael Bay, making shitty films... just not as shitty as Christopher Nolan.

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13187899)

Can we send him a condescending letter telling him to make better Transformers movies?

How about better non-Transformers movies?

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 13187980)

Michael Bay, making shitty films... just not as shitty as Christopher Nolan.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...sv5Xo1_400.jpg

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..his best film is "13 hours: the secret soldiers of benghazi

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https://www.criterion.com/films/2936...olympic-films/

Criterion is releasing a 100 years of Olympics collection. This is a behemoth of a collection if you enjoy movie-style production for Olympics highlights.

It comes out December 5th and is currently around $319 for pre-order.

I'm a big Olympics fan and this collection seems awesome, but realistically I would never have time to watch all this.

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Spanning fifty-three movies and forty-one editions of the Olympic Games, 100 Years of Olympic Films: 1912–2012 is the culmination of a monumental, award-winning archival project encompassing dozens of new restorations by the International Olympic Committee. The documentaries collected here cast a cinematic eye on some of the most iconic moments in the history of modern sports, spotlighting athletes who embody the Olympic motto of “Faster, Higher, Stronger”: Jesse Owens shattering world records on the track in 1936 Berlin, Jean-Claude Killy dominating the Grenoble slopes in 1968, Joan Benoit breaking away to win the Games’ first women’s marathon in Los Angeles in 1984. In addition to the impressive ten-feature contribution of Bud Greenspan, this stirring collective chronicle of triumph and defeat includes such documentary landmarks as Leni Riefenstahl’s Olympia and Kon Ichikawa’s Tokyo Olympiad, along with captivating lesser-known works by major directors like Claude Lelouch, Carlos Saura, and Miloš Forman. It also offers a fascinating glimpse of the development of film itself, and of the technological progress that has brought viewers ever closer to the action. Traversing continents and decades, reflecting the social, cultural, and political changes that have shaped our recent history, this remarkable movie marathon showcases a hundred years of human endeavor.

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SPECIAL EDITION COLLECTOR’S SET FEATURES:

53 newly restored films from 41 editions of the Olympic Games, presented together for the first time
Landmark 4K restorations of Olympia, Tokyo Olympiad, and Visions of Eight, among other titles
New scores for the silent films, composed by Maud Nelissen, Donald Sosin, and Frido ter Beek
A lavishly illustrated, 216-page hardcover book, featuring notes on the films by cinema historian Peter Cowie, along with a letter from Thomas Bach, President of the International Olympic Committee, a short history of the project by restoration producer Adrian Wood, and hundreds of photographs from a century of Olympic Games

Films included:

Stockholm 1912
The Games of the V Olympiad Stockholm, 1912 (dir. Adrian Wood • 2016 • 170 minutes)

Chamonix 1924
The Olympic Games Held at Chamonix in 1924 (dir. Jean de Rovera • 1924 • 37 minutes)

Paris 1924
The Olympic Games as They Were Practiced in Ancient Greece (dir. Jean de Rovera • 1924 • 8 minutes)
The Olympic Games in Paris 1924 (dir. Jean de Rovera • 1924 • 174 minutes)

St. Moritz 1928
The White Stadium (dirs. Arnold Fanck, Othmar Gurtner • 1928 • 124 minutes)

Amsterdam 1928
The IX Olympiad in Amsterdam (dir. unknown • 1928 • 251 minutes)
The Olympic Games, Amsterdam 1928 (dir. Wilhelm Prager; supervisor Jules Perel • 1928 • 192 minutes)

Garmisch-Partenkirchen 1936
Youth of the World (dir. Carl Junghans • 1936 • 38 minutes)

Berlin 1936
Olympia Part One: Festival of the Nations (dir. Leni Riefenstahl • 1938 • 127 minutes)
Olympia Part Two: Festival of Beauty (dir. Leni Riefenstahl • 1938 • 103 minutes)

St. Moritz 1948
Fight Without Hate (dir. André Michel • 1948 • 91 minutes)

London 1948
XIVth Olympiad: The Glory of Sport (dir. Castleton Knight • 1948 • 138 minutes)

Oslo 1952
The VI Olympic Winter Games, Oslo 1952 (dir. Tancred Ibsen • 1952 • 103 minutes)

Helsinki 1952
Where the World Meets (dir. Hannu Leminen • 1952 • 101 minutes)
Gold and Glory (dir. Hannu Leminen • 1953 • 97 minutes)
Memories of the Olympic Summer of 1952 (dir. unknown • 1954 • 50 minutes)

Cortina d’Ampezzo 1956
White Vertigo (dir. Giorgio Ferroni • 1956 • 96 minutes)

Melbourne/Stockholm 1956
Olympic Games, 1956 (dir. Peter Whitchurch • 1956 • 60 minutes)
The Melbourne Rendez-vous (dir. René Lucot • 1957 • 106 minutes)
Alain Mimoun (dir. Louis Gueguen • 1959 • 24 minutes)
The Horse in Focus (dir. unknown • 1956 • 16 minutes)

Squaw Valley 1960
People, Hopes, Medals (dir. Heribert Meisel • 1960 • 93 minutes)

Rome 1960
The Grand Olympics (dir. Romolo Marcellini • 1961 • 147 minutes)

Innsbruck 1964
IX Olympic Winter Games, Innsbruck 1964 (dir. Theo Hörmann • 1964 • 90 minutes)

Tokyo 1964
Tokyo Olympiad (dir. Kon Ichikawa • 1965 • 170 minutes)
Sensation of the Century (prod. Taguchi Suketaro, supervisor Nobumasa Kawamoto • 1966 • 156 minutes)

Grenoble 1968
13 Days in France (dirs. Claude Lelouch, François Reichenbach • 1968 • 112 minutes)
Snows of Grenoble (dirs. Jacques Ertaud, Jean-Jacques Languepin • 1968 • 97 minutes)

Mexico City 1968
The Olympics in Mexico (dir. Alberto Isaac • 1969 • 160 minutes)

Sapporo 1972
Sapporo Winter Olympics (dir. Masahiro Shinoda • 1972 • 167 minutes)

Munich 1972
Visions of Eight (dirs. Miloš Forman, Kon Ichikawa, Claude Lelouch, Yuri Ozerov, Arthur Penn, Michael Pfleghar, John Schlesinger, Mai Zetterling • 1973 • 110 minutes)

Innsbruck 1976
White Rock (dir. Tony Maylam • 1977 • 77 minutes)

Montreal 1976
Games of the XXI Olympiad (dirs. Jean-Claude Labrecque, Jean Beaudin, Marcel Carrière, Georges Dufaux • 1977 • 118 minutes)

Lake Placid 1980
Olympic Spirit (dirs. Drummond Challis, Tony Maylam • 1980 • 27 minutes)

Moscow 1980
O Sport, You Are Peace! (dir. Yuri Ozerov • 1981 • 149 minutes)

Sarajevo 1984
A Turning Point (dir. Kim Takal • 1984 • 82 minutes)

Los Angeles 1984
16 Days of Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 1986 • 284 minutes)

Calgary 1988
Calgary ’88: 16 Days of Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 1989 • 202 minutes)

Seoul 1988
Seoul 1988 (dir. Lee Kwang-soo • 1989 • 139 minutes)
Hand in Hand (dir. Im Kwon-taek • 1989 • 119 minutes)
Beyond All Barriers (dir. Lee Ji-won • 1989 • 92 minutes)

Albertville 1992
One Light, One World (dirs. Joe Jay Jalbert, R. Douglas Copsey • 1992 • 104 minutes)

Barcelona 1992
Marathon (dir. Carlos Saura dir. Carlos Saura • 1993 • 130 minutes)

Lillehammer 1994
Lillehammer ’94: 16 Days of Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 1994 • 209 minutes)

Atlanta 1996
Atlanta’s Olympic Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 1997 • 206 minutes)

Nagano 1998
Nagano ’98 Olympics: Stories of Honor and Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 1998 • 119 minutes)
Olympic Glory (dir. Kieth Merrill • 1999 • 42 minutes)

Sydney 2000
Sydney 2000: Stories of Olympic Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 2001 • 117 minutes)

Salt Lake City 2002
Salt Lake City 2002: Bud Greenspan’s Stories of Olympic Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 2003 • 119 minutes)

Athens 2004
Bud Greenspan’s Athens 2004: Stories of Olympic Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 2005 • 96 minutes)

Turin 2006
Bud Greenspan’s Torino 2006: Stories of Olympic Glory (dir. Bud Greenspan • 2007 • 88 minutes)

Beijing 2008
The Everlasting Flame (dir. Gu Jun • 2010 • 101 minutes)

Vancouver 2010
Bud Greenspan Presents Vancouver 2010: Stories of Olympic Glory (prods. Bud Greenspan, Nancy Beffa • 2010 • 116 minutes)

London 2012
First (dir. Caroline Rowland • 2012 • 109 minutes)

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https://www.amazon.com/Years-Olympic...+olympic+films

100 years of Olympics Films is $260.49 at Amazon. MSRP is $399

This is a really awesome collection and that price seems decent for 53 films, but I’m still weighing the pros and cons of spending that kind of money and whether I would have time to watch any of it.

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Yea it was mentioned a few pages back when it was first announced.

Just wait until the 50% off sale in February.

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I’ll probably triple dip on The Breakfast Club (have it on DVD and the Blu-ray by Universal). I’m still waiting for Criterion to hopefully announce Night of the Living Dead. I know a version is finally available but I’d rather get a better release from Criterion if they still intend to do it.

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John Russo, producer of NOTLD, confirmed that Criterion is releasing it in 2018

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Basically another NOTLD confirmation via the Halloween edition of the newsletter.

http://i8.cmail19.com/ei/r/B9/D8C/6B...acky_10-17.jpg

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Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13195355)

Basically another NOTLD confirmation via the Halloween edition of the newsletter.

http://i8.cmail19.com/ei/r/B9/D8C/6B...acky_10-17.jpg

looks like Jerry Garcia...

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General consensus seems to be that it is Dead Man (Jerry Garcia from The Grateful Dead wearing a T-shirt with the male symbol).