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stvn1974 11-19-14 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 12307760)
Haven't seen this, but it looks cute, I might pick it up to watch with my little cousin when she comes to visit.

Your Aunt and Uncle will also let you pay for her therapy sessions.

hanshotfirst1138 11-21-14 05:24 PM

Look at the bunny! Look at the cute little bunny with the Art Garfunkel songs! Look at the rivers of blood and brutal fight scenes!


Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12300659)
I have no idea what The Third Man's vudu looks like. As far as comparing it to the OOT, you know better than that. The Third Man has one excellent blu-ray that is oop but can still be found even if it is expensive and one pretty good blu-ray that can be had for $15. You can even throw in one excellent, but oop DVD that can be found for a very reasonable price. I wish that were the case with the OOT.

True, but there're rumors about the OOT get a rerelease and the OOT getting one in the near future as well, both unconfirmed. It's agonizing ;).

rocket1312 11-30-14 12:22 PM

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Just wanted to pass along that in addition to those mentioned earlier in the thread, the following WB Archive titles have been discontinued:

The Asphalt Jungle
Before Sunrise
Before Sunset
Cat People
Day for Night
A Face in the Crowd
Klute
Magnificent Ambersons

These are all obviously huge titles and would fit in with the rest of the collection nicely. Just a reminder that people are speculating that these are going to Criterion due to their recently revealed working agreement with WB. There's no guarantee that any of these will get released. This year's New Year drawing could be very exciting though.

PhantomStranger 11-30-14 01:14 PM

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Those all look like eventual Criterion or TCM releases.

ctyankee 11-30-14 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12318511)
Just wanted to pass along that in addition to those mentioned earlier in the thread, the following WB Archive titles have been discontinued:

The Asphalt Jungle
Before Sunrise
Before Sunset
Cat People
Day for Night
A Face in the Crowd
Klute
Magnificent Ambersons

These are all obviously huge titles and would fit in with the rest of the collection nicely. Just a reminder that people are speculating that these are going to Criterion due to their recently revealed working agreement with WB. There's no guarantee that any of these will get released. This year's New Year drawing could be very exciting though.

Agreed. They are a strong fit.

Solid Snake 11-30-14 01:48 PM

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I'd totally be game for Before Sunrise and Before Sunset on BD.

Solid Snake 11-30-14 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 12307760)
Haven't seen this, but it looks cute, I might pick it up to watch with my little cousin when she comes to visit.

What was that one w/ dogs being hunted cuz they were suspected to rabid or something. It's a UK animated film, I think. I can't remember the title for the life of me.

milo bloom 11-30-14 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12318662)
What was that one w/ dogs being hunted cuz they were suspected to rabid or something. It's a UK animated film, I think. I can't remember the title for the life of me.

The Plague Dogs - same author.

Mabuse 11-30-14 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12318511)
Just wanted to pass along that in addition to those mentioned earlier in the thread, the following WB Archive titles have been discontinued:

The Asphalt Jungle
Before Sunrise
Before Sunset
Cat People
Day for Night
A Face in the Crowd
Klute
Magnificent Ambersons

Magnificent Ambersons would be killer.

The whole Val Lewton box set was so killer that I can't imagine a stand alone Cat People being worth the effort. Do the whole series of films!

MTRodaba2468 12-01-14 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12318641)
I'd totally be game for Before Sunrise and Before Sunset on BD.

Agreed. I love Linklater's Before films.


Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 12319130)
Magnificent Ambersons would be killer.

The whole Val Lewton box set was so killer that I can't imagine a stand alone Cat People being worth the effort. Do the whole series of films!

Again, the Lewton set is great, and I wish the whole set would be upgraded to Blu (although I wouldn't be surprised if Cat People was the first one to be released, regardless of whom releases it, just due to its popularity compared to the other Lewton films).

Hazel Motes 12-01-14 03:30 AM

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It would only make sense for criterion to release Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, if Before Midnight was released too as a box set. In fact a Before trilogy box set is probably my number one most fantasized release Criterion could put together right now, aside from McCabe & Mrs Miller.

Solid Snake 12-01-14 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadm (Post 12319284)
It would only make sense for criterion to release Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, if Before Midnight was released too as a box set. In fact a Before trilogy box set is probably my number one most fantasized release Criterion could put together right now, aside from McCabe & Mrs Miller.

Well... they do have a thing w/ Sony. it COULD happen. Dunno if it would but anything is possible w/ CC's relationship w/ Sony and WB right now. I haven't gotten any of the Before films yet... but I am going to pay attention to what CC does right now w/ their WB and Sony films.

ctyankee 12-01-14 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadm (Post 12319284)
It would only make sense for criterion to release Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, if Before Midnight was released too as a box set. In fact a Before trilogy box set is probably my number one most fantasized release Criterion could put together right now, aside from McCabe & Mrs Miller.

And if Sony plays hard ball they will just release the film's individually until they can get the rights to all three and THEN get the completist's money down the road. Your money. ;)

Btw, the ending of Before Sunset to Celine's playful impersonation of Nina Simone while her recording of "Just In Time" is playing is one of my favorite romantic scenes in film.

Dan 12-01-14 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ctyankee (Post 12319610)
Btw, the ending of Before Sunset to Celine's playful impersonation of Nina Simone while her recording of "Just In Time" is playing is one of my favorite romantic scenes in film.

:up: :up:
I only saw the film for the first time this year (I know, I know), but yeah. Wonderful scene/ending.

Solid Snake 12-01-14 11:31 AM

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I've never seen any of them. But I know that I'd like them.

Solid Snake 12-01-14 03:01 PM

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Just saw the Y Tu Mama Tambien BD. FUUUUUUCK. It is a really good looking image.

Seeing Maribel Verdu during that song at the beach bar is so fucking hot. Especially w/ that song in the background. She just looks at the camera and it is fucking mystifying to me.

PhantomStranger 12-01-14 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chadm (Post 12319284)
It would only make sense for criterion to release Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, if Before Midnight was released too as a box set. In fact a Before trilogy box set is probably my number one most fantasized release Criterion could put together right now, aside from McCabe & Mrs Miller.

McCabe & Mrs Miller has already been licensed and will sport a new 4K transfer.

popegregFKAgoblin23 12-02-14 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12319957)
McCabe & Mrs Miller has already been licensed and will sport a new 4K transfer.

Wow, great news.

Hazel Motes 12-02-14 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12319957)
McCabe & Mrs Miller has already been licensed and will sport a new 4K transfer.

sorry if this is what you were already implying, but by Criterion?

hanshotfirst1138 12-02-14 06:43 PM

Criterion's in-house transfers are only 2K, so it's probably outsourced in some fashion.

rocket1312 12-02-14 07:30 PM

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I know that Criterion recently posted a photo of Vilmos Zsigmond working with one of their colorists, but I didn't think there had been any definitive word that McCabe and Mrs. Miller was what he was working on. Did I miss something?

PhantomStranger 12-02-14 09:12 PM

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Ignore what I just said and wait until 2015 for an announcement...

Solid Snake 12-04-14 05:26 AM

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....?

Dan 12-04-14 09:44 AM

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edit: joke's over, since the post is gone.

Mabuse 12-04-14 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 12319268)



Again, the Lewton set is great, and I wish the whole set would be upgraded to Blu (although I wouldn't be surprised if Cat People was the first one to be released, regardless of whom releases it, just due to its popularity compared to the other Lewton films).

One 73 minute film on a blu ray seems wasteful when the whole cycle of Lewton films are so good. Hopefully we will see more than just Cat People. Frankly I'd like to see a COMPLETE Lewton box set that includes his non-horror films that are hard to see and always left out: Mademoiselle Fifi and Youth Gone Wild.

Anubis2005X 12-05-14 01:32 PM

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I keep seeing Tootsie listed as rated R at various websites. Is this a different cut being released than what was released theatrically? I could've sworn it was PG? -confused-

popegregFKAgoblin23 12-06-14 01:58 AM

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I believe that it was originally rated R but then given a PG after Sydney Pollack appealed.

MTRodaba2468 12-15-14 06:14 PM

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March titles have been announced:

#749: The Soft Skin
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François Truffaut followed up the international phenomenon Jules and Jim with this tense tale of infidelity. The unassuming Jean Desailly is perfectly cast as a celebrated literary scholar, seemingly happily married, who embarks on an affair with a gorgeous stewardess, played by Françoise Dorléac, who is captivated by his charm and reputation. As their romance gets serious, the film grows anxious, leading to a wallop of a conclusion. Truffaut made The Soft Skin at a time when he was immersing himself in the work of Alfred Hitchcock, and that master’s influence can be felt throughout this complex, insightful, under seen French New Wave treasure.

-New high-definition digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
-Audio commentary by screenwriter Jean-Louis Richard and François Truffaut scholar Serge Toubiana
-New video essay by filmmaker and critic Kent Jones
-Interview with Truffaut from 1965 about the film
-New English subtitle translation
-PLUS: An essay by critic Molly Haskell


#750: Ride The Pink Horse
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Hollywood actor turned idiosyncratic auteur Robert Montgomery directs and stars in this striking crime drama based on a novel by Dorothy B. Hughes. He plays a tough-talking former GI who comes to a small New Mexico town to shake down a gangster who killed his best friend; things quickly turn nasty. Ride the Pink Horse features standout supporting performances from Fred Clark, Wanda Hendrix, and especially Thomas Gomez, who became the first Hispanic actor to receive an Academy Award nomination for his role here. With its relentless pace, expressive cinematography by the great Russell Metty, and punchy, clever script by Charles Lederer and Ben Hecht, this is an overlooked treasure from the heyday of 1940s film noir.

-New 2K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
-Audio commentary featuring film noir historians Alain Silver and James Ursini
-New interview with Imogen Sara Smith, author of In Lonely Places: Film Noir Beyond the City
-Lux Radio Theatre adaptation of the film from 1947, featuring Robert Montgomery, Wanda Hendrix, and Thomas Gomez
-PLUS: An essay by filmmaker and writer Michael Almereyda


#751/752: Gates Of Heaven/Vernon, Florida
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With his trademark mixture of empathy and scrutiny, Errol Morris has changed the face of documentary filmmaking in the United States, and his career began with two remarkable tales of American eccentricity: Gates of Heaven and Vernon, Florida. The first uses two Southern California pet cemeteries as the bases for a profound and funny rumination on love, loss, and industry; the second travels to a languorous southern backwater and meets a handful of fascinating folks—a determined turkey hunter, a curious minister, a laconic policeman—engaged in individualistic, sometimes absurd pursuits. Morris consistently creates humane portraits of true candor, and these early works remain two of his greatest and most provocative films.

-New 2K digital restorations of both films, supervised by director Errol Morris, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks on the Blu-rays
-New interviews with Morris
-Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (1980), a twenty-minute film by Les Blank featuring Herzog fulfilling a bet intended to inspire Morris to complete his first feature
-Footage of Herzog professing his admiration for Gates of Heaven at the 1980 Telluride Film Festival
-PLUS: An essay by critic Eric Hynes


753: The Thin Blue Line
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Among the most important documentaries ever made, The Thin Blue Line, by Errol Morris, erases the border between art and activism. A work of meticulous journalism and gripping drama, it recounts the disturbing tale of Randall Adams, a drifter who was charged with the murder of a Dallas police officer and sent to death row, despite overwhelming evidence that he did not commit the crime. Incorporating stylized reenactments, penetrating interviews, and haunting original music by Philip Glass, Morris uses cinema to build a case forensically while effortlessly entertaining his viewers. The Thin Blue Line effected real-world change, proving film’s power beyond the shadow of a doubt.

-New high-definition digital restoration, supervised by director Errol Morris and producer Mark Lipson, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
-New interview with Morris
-New interview with filmmaker Joshua Oppenheimer (The Act of Killing)
-NBC report from 1989 covering Randall Adams’s release from prison
-PLUS: An essay by film scholar Charles Musser


Plus, both Cries And Whispers and Hoop Dreams are getting Blu-Ray upgrades, with the following artwork:

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Paul_SD 12-15-14 09:29 PM

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Ride The Pink Horse is a noir that's been highly requested for years now. Not sure if it ever made it to MOD, but there will definitely be a lot of people happy to pick it up on Blu.
Can't remember too much about it when I saw it about 25 years ago- back in the days when AMC not only used to be only classic movies, but commercial free too.

I'll look forward to giving it a second look though.

nitin77 12-16-14 03:55 AM

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in for the forgotten noir and Cries and Whispers (which should look brilliant in blu). Already have the AE version of The Soft Skin coming as part of the Truffaut boxset.

jwstl 12-16-14 10:43 AM

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It's a good month for documentaries. I'll buy the individual releases but would have loved an Errol Morris box set.

rocket1312 12-16-14 11:37 AM

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In case anyone's questioning the upgrade of Hoop Dreams (which was shot in SD video) to blu-ray, here's a screenshot comparison comparing the original release to the 20th anniversary restoration that recently made the rounds.

http://blog.criterioncast.com/post/8...storation-from

Solid Snake 12-16-14 11:48 AM

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Wow.

Randy Miller III 12-16-14 12:31 PM

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Nice...looks promising. When I saw CC's posting yesterday I actually assumed Hoop Dreams was just going to be able for streaming, not actually getting a Blu upgrade. The new 4.0 mix and catch-up documentary sound good, too.

Coral 12-16-14 12:44 PM

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Only Cries And Whispers for me... will wait for the next BN 50% sale to purchase.

I have to say, the artwork is pretty ugly. While the original Criterion artwork wasn't great, it's still much better than this new one.

dsa_shea 12-18-14 10:24 PM

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I can say without hesitation that I do not like the foldouts that have seemingly replaced the booklets that I have really looked forward to. I thought that this might have just been for The Night Porter but I bought Safe and Tootsie and they both had the foldouts as well.

slop101 12-19-14 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 12338580)
I can say without hesitation that I do not like the foldouts that have seemingly replaced the booklets that I have really looked forward to. I thought that this might have just been for The Night Porter but I bought Safe and Tootsie and they both had the foldouts as well.

Yeah, Time Bandits and La Dolce Vita had cheap foldouts as well. At least the one for Time Bandits re-created the movie's time-map.

Paul_SD 12-19-14 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 12338580)
I can say without hesitation that I do not like the foldouts that have seemingly replaced the booklets that I have really looked forward to. I thought that this might have just been for The Night Porter but I bought Safe and Tootsie and they both had the foldouts as well.

Those were the same three titles I just got.
I was holding one of them and thinking "this feels light". Then I looked down through the plastic and couldn't see a substantial booklet and wondered if I got a copy that forgot to include it.

Shame to see those being phased out, as it looks like a trend is developing here.

DaveyJoe 12-19-14 08:50 AM

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Yep, they are officially using leaflets instead of booklets now, which really sucks. Macbeth also has the leaflet, and they're just not as nice or convenient to read. Some people speculate it's to offset the cost of printing separate versions for BD and DVD since they abandoned the dual formats.

Randy Miller III 12-19-14 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 12338796)
Yep, they are officially using leaflets instead of booklets now, which really sucks. Macbeth also has the leaflet, and they're just not as nice or convenient to read. Some people speculate it's to offset the cost of printing separate versions for BD and DVD since they abandoned the dual formats.

Yeah, I noticed this too in recent weeks/months. I really don't like them at all...the only exception is if one side showcases artwork (Time Bandits' Map of the Universe) or for layout gimmicks (Ace in the Hole, which was designed like a newspaper).


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