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Solid Snake 11-15-12 05:39 PM

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I'm still waiting for my dream announcement for the release of Sorcerer via CC. Fuck. What'd I'd love to see w/ CC on that film. Also..they have the original so the remake would be a nice addition to their collection just for that purpose alone.

Hokeyboy 11-15-12 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Bunz (Post 11467429)
If you can't enjoy the Bad Boys movies or The Rock then it must really suck to be you.

:lol:

How's junior high coming along?

PopcornTreeCt 11-15-12 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11469633)
3 actually! 1.66:1 is listed as the 'main' one, and 1.33:1 and 1.85:1 are both "alternates".

This is from IMDb:

Interesting. I can't wait for this release. Don't appreciate Criterion jacking the price up $10 though.

Shagrath 11-15-12 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11470144)
Interesting. I can't wait for this release. Don't appreciate Criterion jacking the price up $10 though.

Don't most of the two-disc blu-ray sets retail for $50?

$49.95 retail
Night of the Hunter
Seven Samurai
Battle of Algiers
Carlos
Che
Heaven's Gate
The Leopard

$39.95 retail
Children of Paradise

Or are we talking about something else?

nitin77 11-16-12 06:25 AM

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will take all, super choices.

LPMA 11-16-12 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 11470165)
Don't most of the two-disc blu-ray sets retail for $50?

$49.95 retail
Night of the Hunter
Seven Samurai
Battle of Algiers
Carlos
Che
Heaven's Gate
The Leopard

$39.95 retail
Children of Paradise

Or are we talking about something else?

Yeah all of their 2 disc titles are $50. I think the only exception is Children of Paradise.

Hammer99 11-16-12 10:24 AM

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On the Waterfront & Sansho for me.

Doctorossi 11-16-12 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer99 (Post 11470597)
On the Waterfront & Sansho for me.

Ding ding ding! You've chosen correctly.

PopcornTreeCt 11-16-12 02:52 PM

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I didn't know that about their 2 disc titles. I figured Che and Carlos were warranted because those were long.

Giles 11-16-12 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 11467714)
In which film? I've only seen the Decameron.

the scene in question is from Arabian Nights.

BuckNaked2k 11-19-12 08:54 AM

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I watched The Decameron last night. I enjoyed it, but was thrown off by the heavy use of ADR. Did Passolini use live microphones on set, or was the entire film dubbed? I thought some of the actors might have been non-Italians saying their lines in their native tongues, and had their dialogue dubbed later on.

Josh Z 11-19-12 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11474264)
I watched The Decameron last night. I enjoyed it, but was thrown off by the heavy use of ADR. Did Passolini use live microphones on set, or was the entire film dubbed? I thought some of the actors might have been non-Italians saying their lines in their native tongues, and had their dialogue dubbed later on.

This was common practice in Italian film production at the time. All dialogue was ADRed. No microphones were used on set. Cast members frequently spoke different languages on camera.

In many cases, the dialogue may not have even been written until post-production. Fellini was famous for having his actors just recite their grocery lists to get their lips moving.

Solid Snake 11-19-12 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11474264)
I watched The Decameron last night. I enjoyed it, but was thrown off by the heavy use of ADR. Did Passolini use live microphones on set, or was the entire film dubbed? I thought some of the actors might have been non-Italians saying their lines in their native tongues, and had their dialogue dubbed later on.

Yeah, ADR was the norm in Italy. Those Leone westerns? ADR.

BuckNaked2k 11-19-12 12:53 PM

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^ ^^ Thanks, I thought that might have been the case. I know this proctice was prevalent in the HK film industry, I just didn't know it was the same in Italy.

bse 11-27-12 03:52 PM

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Medium Cool blu-ray per Newsletter hint.

Shannon Nutt 11-27-12 03:52 PM

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New newsletter is out, with a picture of The Fonz.

The Lords of Flatbush?

http://i2.createsend4.com/ei/r/C4/26...wacky_aaay.png

JayDerek 11-27-12 03:56 PM

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Medium Cool

(that or the second season of Happy Days)

Shannon Nutt 11-27-12 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 11485467)
Medium Cool

(that or the second season of Happy Days)

Good job Jay...I can NEVER guess these. :)

Jaymole 11-27-12 04:28 PM

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Medium Cool would be awesome...such a great film.

LPMA 11-27-12 04:31 PM

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Oooh another Paramount title. The Tenant next please!

NoirFan 11-27-12 04:51 PM

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Nice clue, especially as Henry Winkler has the same initials as Haskell Wexler.

Solid Snake 11-27-12 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 11485467)
Medium Cool

(that or the second season of Happy Days)

Never heard of it before. Educate me on this people. Besides it's unknown quality to me, what makes it awesome?

LPMA 11-27-12 06:30 PM

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I've never heard of it either, but I saw on Wikipedia it's been selected for preservation by the Library of Congress.

PopcornTreeCt 11-27-12 09:07 PM

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It also has Robert Forester in it so yeah probably pretty cool.

Solid Snake 11-28-12 01:20 PM

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OOoooooh...Robert Forester.

obscurelabel 11-28-12 01:44 PM

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Any chance that they have been able to license the Wild Man Fischer song that had to be changed during the roller derby scene ("Merry-go-round")? Knowing just a little about it, I suspect not.


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11485805)
It also has Robert Forester in it so yeah probably pretty cool.

Also Peter Boyele and Peter Boneerz. :)

lamphorn 11-29-12 05:16 AM

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Adding to the Kubrick mystery... Criterion yesterday or the day before was tweeting an article about The Shining.... hmmmmm...

LPMA 11-29-12 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 11487356)
Adding to the Kubrick mystery... Criterion yesterday or the day before was tweeting an article about The Shining.... hmmmmm...

They do tend to tweet about lots of "important" films that aren't necessarily in their collection though.

Solid Snake 11-29-12 11:15 AM

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Talking about The Shining...correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't The Shining have issues. OAR not being maintained and I think colors being a little bit off at times?

riotinmyskull 11-29-12 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11487698)
Talking about The Shining...correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't The Shining have issues. OAR not being maintained and I think colors being a little bit off at times?

colors are wrong when the tennis ball rolls to danny in the hallway but the OAR is debatable.

LPMA 11-29-12 11:53 AM

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Discussing Kubrick and OAR is opening an enormous can of worms.

kefrank 11-29-12 12:13 PM

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Yeah, the aspect ratio on the Shining BD is fine, but the pink tennis ball and toy truck are absurd and inexplicable. It takes me out of the movie every time.

Solid Snake 11-29-12 12:30 PM

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I don't want to derail this thread but..why is that changed?

riotinmyskull 11-29-12 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11487795)
I don't want to derail this thread but..why is that changed?

helicopter blade shadows

kefrank 11-29-12 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11487795)
I don't want to derail this thread but..why is that changed?

Are you asking about the aspect ratio or the colors?

Solid Snake 11-29-12 04:46 PM

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colors.

I understand the OAR issue. In some shots it feels compressed for sure but overall looks fine from what I've seen. Still irks me though...changing an OAR.

riotinmyskull 11-29-12 06:20 PM

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http://i45.tinypic.com/25zsffq.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/99ev10.jpg

IanUngstad 11-29-12 07:16 PM

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The challenge with aspect ratios with Kubrick's later pictures is that he used multiple ratios within a film, so you almost have to go scene by scene.

The major issue with The Shining is that it doesn't offer the European cut of the film. (European cut is actually shorter.) From what I understand, this was Kubrick's preferred cut of the film.

As for Criterion, I have strong doubts that Warners would license this out. I will say, that it's somewhat likely Criterion will release the Room 237 documentary. If so, they are going to have to clear the rights to all the clips from The Shining, so maybe they could convince Warners to let the have it under the condition that it's part of a box with Room 237. There is some precedent for this, see: North by Northwest in the Universal Hitchcock set or the Warner Kazan titles in the Fox set. Still a pipe dream at most.

Josh Z 11-29-12 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11488160)
I understand the OAR issue. In some shots it feels compressed for sure but overall looks fine from what I've seen. Still irks me though...changing an OAR.

The OAR of The Shining is 1.85:1. That is indisputable at this point. Here is one of Kubrick's storyboards for the movie:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rt/shining.jpg

Notice the notes on the right.

"THE FRAME IS EXACTLY 1-1:85.
Obviously you compose for that
but protect the full 1-1:33 area."

That should put the argument to rest for all time.

kefrank 11-29-12 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11488160)
colors.

I have no idea. It doesn't make any sense. Someone screwed up or played a joke and it didn't get caught. Either that or Susan G. Komen has really taken over the world.


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