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Because it too was supposedly tweaked?

I saw the screen grabs that caused the color discussion and decided to still pick it up during the recent big B&N sale.

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I also ordered it in the B&N sale. I almost didn't, but the inclusion of Stereo in HD pushed me to get it.

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Yea, I was just curious what everyone thought since it was brought up a few pages back.

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As much I dislike breaking up retarded arguments...browsing the criterionforum site today, it appears The Brood will be announced next week, the Apu trilogy is definitely on the way, and with an oblique statement by Criterion, posters have speculated that Carrie might be joining the library (they did release it on laserdisc, after all).

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The Carrie rumor comes from a facebook post. They mention Sisters in the post so it's probably more likely they would upgrade that and not Carrie.

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True, but the post said "SISTERS wasn’t the first Brian De Palma film in the Criterion Collection…" and had a pic of the Carrie LD, hence the speculation.

You're probably right, though--it's more likely going to be Sisters, which I'm not thrilled about, and for purely selfish reasons, as I recently acquired Arrow's exemplary Blu of that film, and would rather it be Carrie.

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^Cool.

I'm still not a big Ray fan, but I've always wanted to see that trilogy because, you know, they're still said to be among the greatest movies ever made.

I've also noticed how more and more "Name" titles keep on popping up on Criterion latley. I'm actually starting to miss those days (On the dvd forum) when you would always have those certain members going apeshit over releases that almost no one had never heard of.
i.e, "Holy Shit!!!! Fanfan la Tulipe is finally coming!!!"

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I probably shouldn't discount the rumor. Scream Factory had Carrie at one point and then something happened. MGM could have jumped ship and given it to Criterion. Criterion outbid them for Scanners as well so maybe they're trying to seize as many horror titles as they can.

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Is it more "name" titles being released or just recently releasing things that are far more familiar to posters here given the theatrical release year?

People that don't know Was Anderson movies are probably still wondering why they hell they keep releasing "no-names" when there are so many super-hero movies to choose from.

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They're also working on a Blu release for The Vanishing(Spoorloos) which I'm very excited about.

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Since it was mentioned again recently, then what about Scanners? Another case of radically different colors on the Criterion release.

Once again I see a DVD release history with the wrong colors. But maybe there are people that want to label Cronenberg as a revisionist as well.

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I can't imagine there are too many people who are interested only in super-hero movies even know what Criterion is.

Criterion's output has certainly skewed more to the mainstream in the last year or two. More mainstream than what they were releasing on DVD in the mid '00s anyway. And the reason is simple. The studios don't care about catalog on BD and Criterion has more opportunity to license better known titles.

Oh, and no one ever got excited about them releasing Fanfan la Tulipe. That's just silly talk.

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1) We still need confirmation that the screencap posted earlier is accurate. I'm skeptical. It looks like it was captured incorrectly to me. Not only is the color weird, the gamma is seriously flattened.
2) If Cronenberg has indeed changed the colors, how much of the movie is affected? Is it just the one shot or scene, or are extensive sections of the movie now tinted green?

In Thief, almost every indoor scene in the film is now teal.

You can't accidentally add a whole range of new colors to an image that didn't previously have them before. But you can (either by accident or on purpose) apply a single uniform tint to smother all of the original colors. Which seems more plausible?

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Can't wait to hear people complain about the ending.

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I've only watched the Final Cut and that was on the HD DVD back in 2008.
But that, and from what I understand the DC, are demonstrably changed in terms of color grading from the original release.

Does the original theatrical release on the set have the original theatrical grading?

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I would assume so, and haven't heard any complaints about the grading on that set for the older cuts, but I can't say for certain.

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I'm getting ready to start (merge prior comments) a different thread JUST talking about the re-grading/tinting of Criterion's Thief - as I recall we had this same discussion on this topic in another HD Talk subthread.

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Just make a Thief BD thread.

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^ and done!

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I have to say David Kalat's commentary on THINGS TO COME is one of the best film-historian commentaries I've listened to. One of the rare commentaries that I listened to before watching the film cold! It really helped me understand just WTF Wells was intending with this utopian propaganda. And it is much more of a didactic propaganda film than it is science fiction. Fascinating commentary.

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David Kalat is one of the best commentators around. He's done tracks for both the American and Japanese cuts of the original Godzilla that are great. He's done a couple of other Criterion tracks (To Be Or Not To Be comes to mind) as well. He's also done a bunch for other companies.

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New announcments: My Darling Clementine, Complete Jacques Tati box set, La Dolce Vita plus Blu upgrades of The Vanishing and F For Fake (not sure on that last one).

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There you have it. I go cancel my Tati Box set from the UK now.

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Ha!
Just a month after I imported the German disc. :lol:

At least this is one disc I actually watched before I'll be upgrading it.
Will be worth it for the pre-release version + other extras.

Will be in for La Dolce Vita too.

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I hope they sell them individually, only interested in Playtime.

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^Playtime has been, and is currently, available separately for a long time.
edit: Oh, it's discontinued? I had no idea... nevermind.

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Glad I sold my Tati DVDs last week...for more than the list on the set.

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:thumbsup:

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La Dolce Vita for sure.

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La Dolce Vita for me.

The Tati set is tempting, but I already have Playtime - so I'm going to stick to my "must-have, totally essential only" shopping strategy.

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La Dolce Vita is a must.

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La Dolce Vita will be mine.

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My Darling Clementine

New 4K digital restoration of the theatrical release version of the film, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
High-definition presentation of the 103-minute prerelease version of the film
New audio commentary featuring John Ford biographer Joseph McBride
New interview with western historian Andrew C. Isenberg about the real Wyatt Earp
Comparison of the two versions by the UCLA Film & Television Archive’s Robert Gitt
New video essay by Ford scholar Tag Gallagher
A Bandit’s Wager, a 1916 short costarring Ford and directed by his brother, Francis Ford, featuring new music composed and performed by Donald Sosin
NBC broadcast reports from 1963 and 1975 about the history of Tombstone and Monument Valley
Lux Radio Theatre adaptation from 1947 starring Henry Fonda and Cathy Downs
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic David Jenkins

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F For Fake

New, restored digital transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary from 2005 by cowriter and star Oja Kodar and director of photography Gary Graver
Introduction from 2005 by filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich
Orson Welles: One-Man Band, a documentary from 1995 about Welles’s unfinished projects
Almost True: The Noble Art of Forgery, a fifty-two-minute documentary from 1997 about art forger Elmyr de Hory
60 Minutes interview from 2000 with Clifford Irving about his Howard Hughes autobiography hoax
Hughes’s 1972 press conference exposing Irving’s hoax
Extended, nine-minute trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic Jonathan Rosenbaum

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La Dolce Vita

New 4K digital restoration by the Film Foundation, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New visual essay by : : kogonada
New interview with filmmaker Lina Wertmüller, who worked as assistant director on the film
Scholar David Forgacs discusses the period in Italy’s history when the film was made
New interview with Italian film journalist Antonello Sarno about the outlandish fashions seen in the film
Audio interview with actor Marcello Mastroianni from the early 1960s, conducted by film historian Gideon Bachmann
Felliniana, a presentation of ephemera related to La dolce vita from the collection of Don Young
PLUS: An essay by critic Gary Giddins

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The Complete Jacques Tati

New digital restorations of all six feature films, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks on the Blu-rays of Jour de fête, Monsieur Hulot’s Holiday, Mon oncle, Trafic, and Parade and uncompressed stereo soundtrack on the Blu-ray of PlayTime
New digital restorations of all seven short films: On demande une brute (1934), Gai dimanche (1935), Soigne ton gauche (1936), L’école des facteurs (1946), Cours du soir (1967), Forza Bastia (1978), and Dégustation maison (1978)
Two alternate versions of Jour de fête, a partly colorized 1964 version and the full-color 1994 rerelease version
Original 1953 theatrical release version of Monsieur Hulot’s Holiday
My Uncle, the version of Mon oncle that director Jacques Tati created for English-language audiences
Introductions by actor and comedian Terry Jones to Monsieur Hulot’s Holiday, Mon oncle, and PlayTime
Archival interviews with Tati
In the Footsteps of Monsieur Hulot, a 1989 documentary about Tati’s beloved alter ego
Five visual essays by Tati expert Stéphane Goudet
New interview with film scholar Michel Chion on the sound design of Tati’s films
“Jour de fête”: In Search of the Lost Color, a 1988 documentary on the process of realizing Tati’s original color vision for that film
Once Upon a Time . . . “Mon oncle,” a 2008 documentary about the making of that film
Everything Is Beautiful, a 2005 piece on the fashion, furniture, and architecture of Mon oncle
Selected-scene commentaries on PlayTime by Goudet, theater director Jérôme Deschamps, and critic Philip Kemp
Tativille, a documentary shot on the set of PlayTime
Beyond “PlayTime,” a short 2002 documentary featuring on-set footage
An Homage to Jacques Tati, a 1982 French TV program featuring Tati friend and set designer Jacques Lagrange
Audio interview with Tati from the U.S. premiere of PlayTime at the 1972 San Francisco International Film Festival
Interview with PlayTime script supervisor Sylvette Baudrot from 2006
Tati Story, a short biographical film from 2002
Professor Goudet’s Lessons, a 2013 classroom lecture by Goudet on Tati’s films
Alternate English-language soundtracks for Monsieur Hulot’s Holiday and PlayTime
New English subtitle translations
PLUS: A booklet featuring essays by critics David Cairns, James Quandt, Jonathan Rosenbaum, and Kristin Ross

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The Vanishing

New 2K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New interview with director George Sluizer
New interview with actor Johanna ter Steege
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic Scott Foundas

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Wait!! All that talk of The Vanishing remake included with the blu ray was a joke?!?!? You guys are cruel :lol: No joke, it would of been cool as extra.

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I'm all over The Vanishing and La Dolce Vita. :up:

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Concerning the Tati box set, what I find interesting is that Trafic, which I believe was one of the Studio Canal titles Criterion lost the rights to, is included. Perhaps we can hope more of the SC titles will be relicensed...

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it's getting a seperate release via twilight time

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will get all those except F for Fake.

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Welp, adding Vanishing to my wish list for the next B&N sale ;)