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Old 04-17-12 | 07:55 PM
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I think there's been some big announcements. Certified Copy was big to me, as was The Gold Rush. I hope Criterion gets more noteworthy releases though. When I see Masters of Cinema releasing stuff like The Lost Weekend and Double Indemnity, I hold out hope Criterion will get some huge movies too.
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When you guys say something big, do you have examples of things you'd consider to be 'big'?
I listed 12 examples of what I would consider "big" a couple of posts about your question.
Old 04-18-12 | 12:54 AM
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I've been waiting for Brazil since Gilliam said he was working on doing some stuff for the BD. I don't even remember when that was. Probably 2010. Also more Kurosawa.
Old 04-18-12 | 03:22 AM
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When you guys say something big, do you have examples of things you'd consider to be 'big'?
Well, of all our various wishes, I'd say THE GAME would be legitimately & universally considered a 'big' release.

In many cases, "fertile" would be a better word. I thought ISLAND OF LOST SOULS was a fertile release. A lot of people complained about the transfer, but I think it's pretty 'big' when they unearth a film that's taken ages to debut on DVD/BD. I also wish they'd do more cult/horror/genre films. I wish they'd do more Cronenberg (Shivers! That would be BIG, imo.) Ironically a lot of my favorite titles are OOP ones they lost the rights to. Dead Ringers, Blood For Dracula, Straw Dogs, Peeping Tom. Or simply older titles that haven't been and might not be upgraded to BD, such as Insomnia (1997); A little bit of Criterion trivia, Insomnia was Criterion's first anamorphic widescreen transfer. That must've been considered pretty big in 1999!

But setting my personal preferences & idiosyncracies aside, I'll vouch for a hypothetical release of THE GAME as ****BIG*****.
Old 04-18-12 | 08:14 AM
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Dead Ringers and Straw Dogs would be a big as fucking deal for me. The Game for sure would be big as fuck as well.
Old 04-18-12 | 08:50 AM
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I know there is no accounting for matters of taste, but ... how did Stillman get the upgrade?!
He's got a new movie out, so the only thing I can guess is that CC thought they could capitalize on it with his older films.
Old 04-18-12 | 08:52 AM
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I was more curious to know if by 'big' you meant some sort of humongous boxset, or just generally sough-after titles.
Old 04-18-12 | 09:44 AM
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He's got a new movie out, so the only thing I can guess is that CC thought they could capitalize on it with his older films.
True. Plus, in the case of Last Days of Disco, I'm sure it helps that there are some famous faces in the cast. That can't be said for many of Criterion's releases. Plus, the movies are in English. I would think that would help, though I'd be interested in knowing how sales compare between Criterion's foreign versus English speaking releases. Yes, I realize it depends on the title, but you know what I mean.
Old 04-18-12 | 10:53 AM
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True. Plus, in the case of Last Days of Disco, I'm sure it helps that there are some famous faces in the cast. That can't be said for many of Criterion's releases. Plus, the movies are in English. I would think that would help, though I'd be interested in knowing how sales compare between Criterion's foreign versus English speaking releases. Yes, I realize it depends on the title, but you know what I mean.
Yeah, interesting thought. Most of us are at least peripherally interested in most or all titles that Criterion puts out. But for people with no familiarity with the label, I wonder which films bring people in. I would have guessed (and I think it's a pretty safe guess) Brazil, Fear and Loathing, Traffic, Armageddon, and some of the huge international greats like Seven Samurai.

I do note that most of those are English speaking, so you may be right that putting Stillman on shelves will sell more than putting out something like Spirit of the Beehive.
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The image name says this is rosemary.
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Rosemary's Baby for sure

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Rosemary's Baby for sure
Good call! Possibly an October (Halloween) release?
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That made my day!!!
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Wow! Rosemary's Baby is indeed fantastic news! I think this qualifies as a big announcement.

Any chance that Criterion is going to release the last film in Polanski's apartment series as well?
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Originally Posted by LPMA
I was more curious to know if by 'big' you meant some sort of humongous boxset, or just generally sough-after titles.
Well, I think I talked about this a few pages back (maybe), but it is fairly certain that they are working on quite a few boxsets: Kiarostami's Koker trilogy, Roberto Rossellini/Ingrid Bergman set, Wim Wenders' Road trilogy, the Apu trilogy, The Decalogue, etc. I have no idea if any of those are coming this year, but they are all coming, according to statements from Criterion and other reliable sources.

They've also apparently been working on what might be a really big boxset of films from Scorsese's World Cinema Foundation film restoration project.

Those would all be big releases to me, and ones that would probably take up a lot of resources.

There are also films like Y Tu Mama Tambien, Following, and The Game in the pipeline - though those aren't as exciting to me simply because they already have decent DVD releases.

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I don't know if they can get them, but a couple of "big" titles I'd love to see are Quiz Show and 25th Hour. Disney doesn't seem to be interested in releasing them themselves.

BTW, are you sure about The Game having a decent DVD release? That was one of the earliest titles in the format's history by Polygram. The transfer is non-anamorphic and awful, especially by today's standards, and there are barely any extras. Universal just repackaged it with their logo when they released it. Did another region ever get a better version (other than the Region B BD)?

I thought the HD DVD wasn't that bad, despite the criticism, but it too was barebones.
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Actually, I'm not sure about The Game. I watched the other two fairly recently, but I haven't seen the Fincher in ages.
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BTW, are you sure about The Game having a decent DVD release? That was one of the earliest titles in the format's history by Polygram. The transfer is non-anamorphic and awful, especially by today's standards, and there are barely any extras. Universal just repackaged it with their logo when they released it. Did another region ever get a better version (other than the Region B BD)?
Yeah, I have a region-3 DVD of The Game (put out by Universal) that's anamorphic, has a bunch of extras (including a good Fincher commentary) from a while back.
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Wow! Rosemary's Baby is indeed fantastic news! I think this qualifies as a big announcement.

Any chance that Criterion is going to release the last film in Polanski's apartment series as well?
As excited as I am for Rosemary's Baby, a Criterion Blu-Ray of The Tenant would make my year. That movie is bonkers. Also, I think the DVD is currently out of print.
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With both of them being Paramount titles and both being OOP, maybe there's a chance they secured the rights to both and will release them in the same month, like they seem to like doing?
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I'm thrilled if it's Rosemary's Baby. I'm sure it'll see an October release, meaning I'll have to grab it for the Horror Challenge...
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Originally Posted by Drexl
I don't know if they can get them, but a couple of "big" titles I'd love to see are Quiz Show and 25th Hour. Disney doesn't seem to be interested in releasing them themselves.
I would be really love to see Quiz Show released on Blu-ray. Great movie.

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As excited as I am for Rosemary's Baby, a Criterion Blu-Ray of The Tenant would make my year. That movie is bonkers. Also, I think the DVD is currently out of print.
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With both of them being Paramount titles and both being OOP, maybe there's a chance they secured the rights to both and will release them in the same month, like they seem to like doing?
I had no idea that The Tenant was OOP. It seems like that might bode well for an eventual Criterion Blu-ray release. Of the three apartment movies, Rosemary's Baby actually seems the least Criterion to me, if that makes any sense.
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Originally Posted by clckworang
I had no idea that The Tenant was OOP. It seems like that might bode well for an eventual Criterion Blu-ray release.
Unfortunately, The Tenant is just one of several hundred Paramount catalog titles that have gone out of print in the past few years (including quite a few major ones, like Nashville, The Elephant Man, Paper Moon, The Conformist), so the fact that it's OOP, by itself, doesn't mean much.

However, Criterion does seem to like Polanski, and it would be awesome to have the entire "Apartment Trilogy" in the collection.
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I'm excited about the Whit Stillman films, but while they were at it, why couldn't they get the rights to Barcelona and do a Stillman Trilogy box set? It's OOP on DVD and right up Criterion's alley...


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