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Old 06-29-08 | 08:16 PM
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Warner could have easily included PCM audio on their Blu-ray releases that were gimped compared to the HD DVD versions. The people making the decisions at Warner in the early stages of the format war were mostly former employees of Toshiba. Warner had contractual obligations to favor HD DVD as a format with Toshiba. Ever wonder why HD DVD got so many HD DVD exclusives from Warner or gimped audio on the Blu-ray releases? Or why they continued to release HD DVD titles even after they announced they had picked Blu-ray as the sole format? They got paid a boatload of money for that. Thankfully the corporate people at Time Warner above the studio level put an end to that nonsense.
....Ok.

Keep in mind Warner's announcement was made at the last minute (literally, the last possible minute) and many of their HD DVD titles were already completed and pressed. Why wouldn't they want to release those titles (after a 3 week delay) to recoup some of their loss?

Warner knew whatever side they chose others would follow. If Warner had stopped releasing on HD DVD as of 1.4.08, then very few people would be inclined to pick up their previous releases as well that were sitting on store shelves. It gave Warner (and other studios) enough time to sell as much as they had before stores starting pulling them.

Regardless, who cares. Whats done is done. As of right now there are many titles where they just sound better on HD DVD. Paramount has releases as well where the HD DVD is superior. You can't pull the "Paramount supported HD DVD more" card either because they were real quick to abandon HD DVD and bad-mouth them as soon as they were gone.

If you're dual format (like me) that plans on having both an HD DVD and Blu-ray player hooked up at all times, its a no brainer to buy the cheaper, better sounding HD DVDs. If your only a BD Supporter (or have since sold your HD DVDs) then you're going to have to settle for more expensive, worse sounding titles for the time being. Who knows if Paramount or Warner plans to re-release any of those Dual titles with better audio codecs anytime soon. If what other members have said is true, then Superman Returns WILL one day have the TrueHD track on it. I know I always look through the copies anytime I go to a new Best Buy

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Old 06-29-08 | 08:31 PM
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^^^What he said.
Old 06-30-08 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
The people making the decisions at Warner in the early stages of the format war were mostly former employees of Toshiba.
Really? You have names to share with us?

Warner had contractual obligations to favor HD DVD as a format with Toshiba. Ever wonder why HD DVD got so many HD DVD exclusives from Warner or gimped audio on the Blu-ray releases?
Certain format exclusives such as the Matrix Trilogy I will give you were the result of contractual deals between the two companies. However, the audio situation had little to do with favoring one format over another. Do you honestly believe that money changed hands to ensure that the HD DVD had a lossless track but the Blu-ray didn't? How many consumer sales would that affect - half a dozen worldwide, if even?

The audio situation was a result of three factors:

1) TrueHD wasn't available on Blu-ray at the time the format launched.
2) The chief alternative was to use PCM on Blu-ray, which Warner did on several titles (The Departed, etc.). However, PCM takes up a tremendous amount of bit space and wasn't a viable option for every title.
3) Warner has always been conservative in their support for audio formats. They used the low 384 kb/s bit rate for Dolby Digital on DVD for years even though everyone else in the industry used 448 kb/s. Their support for lossless audio on both High-Def formats was spotty, because the executives in charge had research to suggest that it doesn't make a significant audible difference to be worth the investment.
Old 06-30-08 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Really? You have names to share with us?
Here's one I found:

Steve Nickerson, Warner Home Video executive who was the company’s point man for high-definition video will soon leave the company, the Hollywood Reporter reported Friday. Nickerson is leaving, that paper said, to “pursue other opportunities that will be announced shortly.”

Nickerson held the title of senior vice president for high-definition media at Warner Bros. He had been with the company since 2000.

A former employee of Toshiba who played a role in the launch of the original DVD format, Nickerson often spoke at industry events, the Reporter said, in favor of Warners’ dual-format strategy for releasing high-definition discs.

http://www.dealerscope.com/story/sto...3293&var=story

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