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Old 01-15-08, 11:35 AM
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Does quality of HDMI cable really make a difference?

I went to Best Buy to purchase an HDMI cable for my Blu-Ray player (since it didn't come with one). As you can imagine there were some really pricy ones, and I asked the sales dude out of curiosity if it really made any difference between one HDMI cable or another. He told me that it really did because of bandwith, etc. and that I should go with at least a such and such series and pointed one out on the shelf. I then told him that I was not paying $130 for a cable and he got kinda pissed, but pointed out that that was for a $12 foot cable, in the end I did get that particular series of cable (albeit in a $30 cheaper 4-ft version).
I have to say that the PQ of Blu-Ray from the first 2 discs I have watched really impressed me, moreso than I have been from my HD DVD player which is hooked up with the cheapo HDMI cable that came packaged with it.
So i'm wondering if I am just imagining things or does the quality of the cable really make any difference?

***I'm only concerned about PQ, since I run audio separately.

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Old 01-15-08, 11:41 AM
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Old 01-15-08, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
No.
Is that a no to him imagining things or to the quality making a difference.
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www.monoprice.com

Seriously, never buy cables from a store.
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Originally Posted by Draven
www.monoprice.com

Seriously, never buy cables from a store.
I second that.
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I don't think it makes a difference, I paid 6 dollars each, for 6 foot cables. I have a PS3 and HD-DVD player hooked up and they both look great, why don't you switch the cables and try the cheeper one on the Blu-ray player and see if you can see any difference.
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Old 01-15-08, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acubfaninmd
Is that a no to him imagining things or to the quality making a difference.
The latter.
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With very, very long cable lengths there is a difference.
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Yes, quality matters. But retail price bears NO indication of quality.

A $6-8 HDMI cable from monoprice.com works very well. It's all I use.
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Yes, there are some HDMI cable that do not support the bandwidth for 1080p.

No, the massive expensive ones ($100+) are not noticeably better than the $6 ones from monoprice.
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Yes, there are some HDMI cable that do not support the bandwidth for 1080p.
How would you know which cable does not?

Is is visible in the packaging specs? or how do you know?
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Generally it's on the package (Up to 1080p! or up to 1080i!) or on the manufacturers website.
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Ok, thanks for the info. guys.
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Old 01-15-08, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Shazam
With very, very long cable lengths there is a difference.
I agree with this. Over a certain length, quality can be important. Even at 15', you might encounter some problems.
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Yeah, when I bought my TV I needed HDMI cables as well. Initially, I bought a pair of Best Buy's in-house brand RocketFish cables (for $60-something each!). But the next day I searched online and found that Best Buy employees could buy these very same cables for $5, so I returned them and got a pair of Monster HDMI cables on "sale" for $65 each. I used them for a bit until boxing day rolled around and I got three Philips HDMI cables for $19.97 each. I've been using them ever since and as far as my eyes can tell they result in the same picture quality as the Monsters. I know it's not monoprice cheap, but it's not Monster expensive either, so I'm relatively satisfied with them.
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
No.
Here we go again LOL

I *DO* think it makes a difference if you buy a hdmi cable:
1. with cheap connectors
2. for a long distance
3. which is not 1.3 certified
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Originally Posted by exm
Here we go again LOL

I *DO* think it makes a difference if you buy a hdmi cable:
1. with cheap connectors
2. for a long distance
3. which is not 1.3 certified
I'm wondering if copper shielding on the cable makes a difference as well. The Monsters I was using did not have copper shielding, but the cheaper Philips cables do.
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My gf works at Best Buy and has bought me a number of HDMI/ Optical cables... retailing for $60-80 a piece... she gets them for under $5 with her discount. Stores rape so many poor customers with their prices!
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Cables, accessories, etc (along with service plans) are where places like Best Buy make the biggest profit. When they have sales on hardware and software, they may barely break even, so they have to rape the customers on something in order to make money.
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I picked up Rocketfish from BB. It's not Monster but it's not the cheapest either. So far so good. PQ is excellent. A little pricey, $70/4ft.
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Originally Posted by exm
Here we go again LOL

I *DO* think it makes a difference if you buy a hdmi cable:
1. with cheap connectors
2. for a long distance
3. which is not 1.3 certified
While I would in general agree, I would expect that any well-made HDMI cable (and I do consider Monoprice cables to be well-made) would probably work fine in very short runs (such as the 1-3 foot runs between components in an equipment rack) whether it is 1.3 certified or not. In runs longer than that, lack of 1.3 certification would be much more apparent.
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Originally Posted by cultshock
Cables, accessories, etc (along with service plans) are where places like Best Buy make the biggest profit. When they have sales on hardware and software, they may barely break even, so they have to rape the customers on something in order to make money.
Yeah, I was surprised when I was doing some returns recently and saw that some of the "cost prices" for CDs were so close to the retail price. I'm talking like $9 cost price for something that sells at $12.99. I even saw one that was selling at $12.99 and cost price was $12.09.

The next time anyone goes to Best Buy, ask them to scan something into their system to find out the price. At the bottom left of the screen is the cost price. I think the cost price runs into some other data and there are no decimal points, so that the customer doesn't realize what it is. Otherwise, someone might want to find out the sale price of a RocketFish cable and see that the cost price is $2!

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Old 01-15-08, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
While I would in general agree, I would expect that any well-made HDMI cable (and I do consider Monoprice cables to be well-made) would probably work fine in very short runs (such as the 1-3 foot runs between components in an equipment rack) whether it is 1.3 certified or not. In runs longer than that, lack of 1.3 certification would be much more apparent.
I have no experience with monoprice, but I do believe in 'you get what you pay for'. So either monoprice has to be a miracle store that can deliver top notch cables for dirt cheap, or somehow somewhere they use lesser quality components in their cables/connectors.

My personal favorite for cables is bluejeans.
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So either monoprice has to be a miracle store that can deliver top notch cables for dirt cheap ...
They deliver top notch cables for dirth cheap.
I don't think they're a miracle store though.
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Originally Posted by exm
Here we go again LOL

I *DO* think it makes a difference if you buy a hdmi cable:
1. with cheap connectors
2. for a long distance
3. which is not 1.3 certified
It does. All of which you can buy from monoprice at a tenth of the price Best Buy will sell you one for.
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