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Old 01-15-08 | 02:48 PM
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I have no experience with monoprice, but I do believe in 'you get what you pay for'. So either monoprice has to be a miracle store that can deliver top notch cables for dirt cheap, or somehow somewhere they use lesser quality components in their cables/connectors.

My personal favorite for cables is bluejeans.
Well then, I guess you believe in miracles.
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I have no experience with monoprice, but I do believe in 'you get what you pay for'. So either monoprice has to be a miracle store that can deliver top notch cables for dirt cheap, or somehow somewhere they use lesser quality components in their cables/connectors.

The build quality is the same as any monster cable I've seen. It's not that they are cutting corners. What they are cutting out is the middleman, and the retailer, to sell you the cable at the cheapest price possible.
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Old 01-15-08 | 02:53 PM
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"you get what you pay for" -- in the case of digital cables what you get by buying brand-name/expensive cables is screwed.

In fact, the "$60" HDMI cable that came with my PS3 bundle was of less quality than my $6 monoprice cables.
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Old 01-15-08 | 02:57 PM
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Funny how sacred monoprice is to some people. I never said it's bad, but even by cutting out the middleman and the retailer, they still have to make a decent cable AND make a profit. Just common sense IMO.
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Let's rename this site to DVDArgue.com ...
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:01 PM
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Funny how sacred monoprice is to some people. I never said it's bad, but even by cutting out the middleman and the retailer, they still have to make a decent cable AND make a profit. Just common sense IMO.
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:02 PM
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Funny how sacred monoprice is to some people. I never said it's bad, but even by cutting out the middleman and the retailer, they still have to make a decent cable AND make a profit. Just common sense IMO.


they do both.

some people have such a tough time accepting monoprice. order one and check it out for yourself.

i have 2 15' cables running from my display to my media closet, one running from my ps3/tivoS3/HDA2.

the cable are of EXCELLENT build quality.

they make their own and sell from their site.

no store, no salesperson, no stockholders, no frills, just great cables.

i also own monoprice hdmi splitter, optical cables, rca cables, subwoofer cables and an a multitude of wall plates.

i jumped off the sucker train 6 years ago.
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
Funny how sacred monoprice is to some people. I never said it's bad, but even by cutting out the middleman and the retailer, they still have to make a decent cable AND make a profit. Just common sense IMO.
It isn't that Monoprice is sacred, it's that we have all USED their products, and they WORK. As others have said, they don't make their products any more cheaply than the other guys, but they don't mark them up 500% either.

Before discovering Monoprice, I was a huge Monster zealot. That was pretty much all I would buy. But I needed a cable fairly quickly, and I couldn't find anyone who had the Monster version, so I skeptically ordered one from Monoprice, after it was recommended to me by someone here. After I received the cable, I was amazed at the obvious build quality, considering I had paid less than 1/5th of the cost of the comparable Monster cable. Now they are the only place I go when looking for cables, switch boxes, splitters, or other interconnect accessories.

Look at their web site. You can spend $24 for one of their 24 gauge, silver-plated, CL2-rated, 1.3a certified 10 foot cables, or you could spend $120 for one that might have marginally better build quality from Monster.
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSpacey
they do both.

some people have such a tough time accepting monoprice. order one and check it out for yourself.

i have 2 15' cables running from my display to my media closet, one running from my ps3/tivoS3/HDA2.

the cable are of EXCELLENT build quality.

they make their own and sell from their site.

no store, no salesperson, no stockholders, no frills, just great cables.

i also own monoprice hdmi splitter, optical cables, rca cables, subwoofer cables and an a multitude of wall plates.

i jumped off the sucker train 6 years ago.
I still believe there are cables out there that have better quality for not that much more money. Not to say monoprice makes bad cables, but I just don't buy it that you can have both: high end quality for warehouse prices. These cables are excellent for J6P-systems, but I am not taking the risk of 'saving' $20 on monoprice cables (compared to BJC Series-1) with a $10k system. And we're not talking about spending $100 on Monster HDMI cables.

Some good information about what's important in HDMI cables:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...s.htm?hdmiinfo
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:28 PM
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Before discovering Monoprice, I was a huge Monster zealot.
Just my $0.02 on Monster cables: I am one of the few that does notice a difference in cables, with the biggest difference in the analog domain (speaker cables followed by RCA cables). The difference is less obvious with digital cables, but still, there IS a difference.

Again, this ALL depends on your setup. But people that are bashing high-end cables just because THEY don't hear a difference shouldn't be trying to tell ME that there is no difference. Yes, I have done 1:1 comparisons... Now *I* am not trying to tell YOU that you SHOULD here a difference either...

Disclaimer: my wife did not hear a difference between different cables. But then again, she also doesn't notice a difference between Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
Some good information about what's important in HDMI cables:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...s.htm?hdmiinfo
With all due respect, that is one of the most poorly-written marketing blurbs that I have ever read. And that's all it is, really, a marketing blurb.
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
I have no experience with monoprice, but I do believe in 'you get what you pay for'. So either monoprice has to be a miracle store that can deliver top notch cables for dirt cheap, or somehow somewhere they use lesser quality components in their cables/connectors.

My personal favorite for cables is bluejeans.
You took the words (expression) right out of my mouth. I can make allowances for not having the overhead of a b&m retail store, but still...

That said, from all accounts I've read, the really expensive top brand cables are extremely overpriced. Last summer I bought an HDMI cable for $19 at a Sam's Club. The exact same cable was about $60 at Best Buy.

FWIW, Apple Stores carry an HDMI cable for $19.
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OK, monoprice makes a ton of cables... is this the one I should be getting for my blu-ray player? I only need about 3 feet.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
With all due respect, that is one of the most poorly-written marketing blurbs that I have ever read. And that's all it is, really, a marketing blurb.
To each his own...
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
I still believe there are cables out there that have better quality for not that much more money. Not to say monoprice makes bad cables, but I just don't buy it that you can have both: high end quality for warehouse prices. These cables are excellent for J6P-systems, but I am not taking the risk of 'saving' $20 on monoprice cables (compared to BJC Series-1) with a $10k system. And we're not talking about spending $100 on Monster HDMI cables.

Some good information about what's important in HDMI cables:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...s.htm?hdmiinfo

Isn't BlueJeans cables essentially the same thing as Monoprice? They sell/market their cables via the internet, with no known retail sales presence. I'd be willing to bet if you pull apart their cables and the monoprice ones, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Other than your wallet is lighter if you bought the BlueJeans ones.
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Isn't BlueJeans cables essentially the same thing as Monoprice? They sell/market their cables via the internet, with no known retail sales presence. I'd be willing to bet if you pull apart their cables and the monoprice ones, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Other than your wallet is lighter if you bought the BlueJeans ones.
They have a fourth-grade level website design, I can tell you that much...
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Old 01-15-08 | 03:43 PM
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Isn't BlueJeans cables essentially the same thing as Monoprice? They sell/market their cables via the internet, with no known retail sales presence. I'd be willing to bet if you pull apart their cables and the monoprice ones, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Other than your wallet is lighter if you bought the BlueJeans ones.
Yes and No. They do sell directly, so you get a significant discount but I also believe that they use higher quality components.
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Originally Posted by Dane Marvin
OK, monoprice makes a ton of cables... is this the one I should be getting for my blu-ray player? I only need about 3 feet.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
If you want to be extra confident in your cable, you could go for this one:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

But the one you have selected should be good as well at that distance.
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Old 01-15-08 | 05:05 PM
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Yes and No. They do sell directly, so you get a significant discount but I also believe that they use higher quality components.
And this is based on the your experience with monoprice. which you've admitted in this thread is none. So how can they be higher quality components if you you've never used one.
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Originally Posted by exm

My personal favorite for cables is bluejeans.
My eyes tell me bluejeans > monoprice
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I'll concede that Monoprice cables may not have the build quality of these other brands -- and something from BlueJeansCables.com may trounce them in terms of measurement testing or sheer heft. But, at the 10-12 foot length runs I'm using to wall mount my flat panel, I'd be buried by the costs of these "pro" cables.

I'll take the bargains at Monoprice anyday. The savings more than offsets any loss in quality I might be seeing or hearing.

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OK, monoprice makes a ton of cables... is this the one I should be getting for my blu-ray player? I only need about 3 feet.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
That will do just fine. However, sometimes, paying a little extra might make the pictures seem better to you ... even if they really are not. It's natural human behavior.
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Old 01-15-08 | 07:15 PM
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And this is based on the your experience with monoprice. which you've admitted in this thread is none. So how can they be higher quality components if you you've never used one.
I told you that I have no experience with monoprice; I am just using common sense. A $1 McDonalds hamburger doesn't taste as good as a $5 diner hamburger, which doesn't taste as good as a $15 restaurant hamburger, etc (although some might argue with me). The point is that you get what you pay for - and I never, ever mentioned in this thread that monoprice is making bad products. But you tell me how they can sell a cable for a couple of dollars, make a profit, have a huge R&D facility and use high quality components? Is it magic, perhaps?

Sometimes I feel that monoprice gets so much attention on this board that people forget they can spend a little bit more (not talking about 'Monster Cable Best Buy' more) and get better quality.

For example, there a couple of links in THIS thread to monoprice, but you can actually get SIMILAR priced cables at bluejeans cable! YES, they also make inexpensive HDMI cables.

Okay, back to reality now.
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Originally Posted by exm
I told you that I have no experience with monoprice; I am just using common sense. A $1 McDonalds hamburger doesn't taste as good as a $5 diner hamburger, which doesn't taste as good as a $15 restaurant hamburger, etc (although some might argue with me). The point is that you get what you pay for - and I never, ever mentioned in this thread that monoprice is making bad products. But you tell me how they can sell a cable for a couple of dollars, make a profit, have a huge R&D facility and use high quality components? Is it magic, perhaps?

Sometimes I feel that monoprice gets so much attention on this board that people forget they can spend a little bit more (not talking about 'Monster Cable Best Buy' more) and get better quality.

For example, there a couple of links in THIS thread to monoprice, but you can actually get SIMILAR priced cables at bluejeans cable! YES, they also make inexpensive HDMI cables.

Okay, back to reality now.
Does a designer hubcap work better than a generic plastic hubcap? They will both prevent air from leaking out of your tire. That is exactly what it is with HDMI cable. It either works or it doesn't. There is nothing in between.
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Old 01-15-08 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
I told you that I have no experience with monoprice; I am just using common sense. A $1 McDonalds hamburger doesn't taste as good as a $5 diner hamburger, which doesn't taste as good as a $15 restaurant hamburger, etc (although some might argue with me). The point is that you get what you pay for - and I never, ever mentioned in this thread that monoprice is making bad products. But you tell me how they can sell a cable for a couple of dollars, make a profit, have a huge R&D facility and use high quality components? Is it magic, perhaps?

Sometimes I feel that monoprice gets so much attention on this board that people forget they can spend a little bit more (not talking about 'Monster Cable Best Buy' more) and get better quality.

For example, there a couple of links in THIS thread to monoprice, but you can actually get SIMILAR priced cables at bluejeans cable! YES, they also make inexpensive HDMI cables.

Okay, back to reality now.
You keep getting stuck on this notion that because the monoprice cables are priced infinitely cheaper than all other cables, they are of inferior quality. Guess what? The Monster cables most people buy cost the same amount to make. They just don't sell for the same price. Probably the same could be said about BlueJeans cables. So yes, those Monsters cables or Blue Jeans cables might have shiny, spiffy packaging. Probaby because they markup is so good, they need something to set themselves apart from everything else.

But in terms of HDMI cables, it's all 0's and 1's. If there were something wrong or inferior about Monoprice's cables, they wouldn't work at all.
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