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Does quality of HDMI cable really make a difference?

Old 01-17-08 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
exm, just provide us with a link that shows that Monoprice/Blue Jeans/Monster don't use the same components. And refrain from using that $200 lcd vs $1200 lcd or Kia vs Toyota analogy. They didn't work, and never will.
Ok, so you show me a link that Kia uses different parts than Toyota. Or Panasonic uses a different part than a Chinese-brand Plasma TV. Can't do it? WELL THEN I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. That's what you're saying.

I tried to reason my statement earlier in this thread: how good of a build quality can a $4 retail HDMI cable be?
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Old 01-17-08 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
Exactly. I mean, I won't be going to amazon and buying the cheapest HDMI cable I can find. From what everyone says by word of mouth, these cheaper brand cables such as monoprice and blue jeans offer great overall customer satisfaction in their quality and reliability. That's all that matters to me.
That is EXACTLY my point! Why buy the cheapest cable you can find if you can spend a little bit more and at least KNOW what components the cable is made of? Doesn't that makes sense if you're so selective in which receiver, DVD player, television, etc you buy, you don't want to save $20 on a cable just because people 'say' that cables won't make a difference...

Don't listen to people like me who say that cables might make a difference, but don't listen to people that say cables don't make a difference either. Use your own judgment and most of all, common sense: "You Get What You Pay For".
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Old 01-17-08 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
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You are getting pretty close to a pro cable freak. Be careful, danger lies in the freak world. But you really should actually try a Monoprice HDMI cable before starting a war over them. So I look forward to the arrival of your new cable.
I am looking forward to getting this cable also. Can't wait to test it, but also to take it apart and compare components. Heck, I might even order an extra BJ cables, take it apart and show pictures of the inside of the cable. Not that it matters to most people in the thread anyway because 'a cable is a cable'.
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Old 01-17-08 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
I am looking forward to getting this cable also. Can't wait to test it, but also to take it apart and compare components. Heck, I might even order an extra BJ cables, take it apart and show pictures of the inside of the cable. Not that it matters to most people in the thread anyway because 'a cable is a cable'.
As long as you compare apples to apples, i.e. the same gauge wire. You could have bought the $7.50 monoprice if you wanted thicker gauge cable with gold plated connection instead of the $3 version. By as most people have said, the picture quality will be the same since it is digital (especially for the length you purchased). The problem with Monster is that they don't tell you the wire gauge, so you can't compare easily.
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Old 01-17-08 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PerryD
As long as you compare apples to apples, i.e. the same gauge wire. You could have bought the $7.50 monoprice if you wanted thicker gauge cable with gold plated connection instead of the $3 version. By as most people have said, the picture quality will be the same since it is digital (especially for the length you purchased). The problem with Monster is that they don't tell you the wire gauge, so you can't compare easily.
So why but the thicker gauge cable with gold plater connectors if ... a cable is a cable and 0's are 0's and 1's are 1's? The $3 should be sufficient, right
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Old 01-17-08 | 07:56 PM
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I do have a question on the DVI cables on Monoprice. I needed to get one for a new LCD monitor for my home computer. Is there a big difference if I get the 6 ft. cable over the 3 ft. one? The 3 ft. would be really tight and the 6 ft. gives me the extra that I need. Looking at the site the 28 gauge cable is cheaper than the 24. How does that make sense. The 28 has the higher max bit rate but is cheaper and other than that the specs are exactly the same.
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Old 01-17-08 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
So why but the thicker gauge cable with gold plater connectors if ... a cable is a cable and 0's are 0's and 1's are 1's? The $3 should be sufficient, right
Perhaps you missed the part about comparing apples to apples.
If you are going to take the cables apart and show us how they are physically different, then at least make the effort to buy physically equivalent cables, OK?
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Old 01-17-08 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kenage
I do have a question on the DVI cables on Monoprice. I needed to get one for a new LCD monitor for my home computer. Is there a big difference if I get the 6 ft. cable over the 3 ft. one? The 3 ft. would be really tight and the 6 ft. gives me the extra that I need. Looking at the site the 28 gauge cable is cheaper than the 24. How does that make sense. The 28 has the higher max bit rate but is cheaper and other than that the specs are exactly the same.
Buy the 6ft, you will never notice a difference. DVI/HDMI has a max length of 15 meters, so a 1m vs 2m difference will be imperceptible.

As for AWG, the smaller the number the thicker the wire. Bitrate is the same for both gauges.
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Old 01-17-08 | 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the help Jah. So why is the thicker wire cheaper than the thiner wire? The thiner wire had a max bitrate of around 7 while the thicker cheaper wire had a max bitrate over 9.
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Old 01-17-08 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cpgator
A DIYer for HDMI cable?? And what is the point of making your own cable? I can't imagine it would be cost effective.
Sorry, didn't mean for HDMI. I haven't gone that route.

But I have handmade component cables both identical to BJC and better. My analog audio are all better than BJC's. Spent far less than if I purchased from them.

Now, that being said....I'm not claiming significant changes in audio or video compared to BJC cables. I will claim significant improvement compared to freebie cables that come with players.
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Old 01-17-08 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah-Wren Ryel
DVI/HDMI has a max length of 15 meters,
Not anymore. And certainly not with amplifiers.
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Old 01-18-08 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah-Wren Ryel
Perhaps you missed the part about comparing apples to apples.
If you are going to take the cables apart and show us how they are physically different, then at least make the effort to buy physically equivalent cables, OK?
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Old 01-18-08 | 03:08 AM
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Again ... wow ... a seemingly innocent question ends up in a 7 page argument (and counting). Expect nothing less from the HD Talkers.
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Old 01-18-08 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by namja
Again ... wow ... a seemingly innocent question ends up in a 7 page argument (and counting). Expect nothing less from the HD Talkers.
Yeah, like there has never been a long argument about over-priced cables anywhere else on the net.
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Old 01-18-08 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah-Wren Ryel
Yeah, like there has never been a long argument about over-priced cables anywhere else on the net.
And they always end up in the group that believes that any cables works or a group that believes that cables do make a difference... Seems hardly to be any middle ground
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Old 01-18-08 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
And they always end up in the group that believes that any cables works or a group that believes that cables do make a difference... Seems hardly to be any middle ground
I think the argument here is that any quality HDMI cable will work just as good as an expensive HDMI cable, against the argument that monoprice cannot make quality cables for the price they charge.

One side of the argument is based on first hand experience by many people, and the other is based only on the assumptions of one person.
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Old 01-18-08 | 12:38 PM
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Buy cables from ebay. I bought a Monster HDMI-DVI cable for $20 over the summer. It was most likely stolen, but it's all the same to me. $20 compared to about $80, you do the math.
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Old 01-18-08 | 12:46 PM
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Or buy the same cable for $6 on Monoprice, that's just as good and not stolen.
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Old 01-18-08 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Or buy the same cable for $6 on Monoprice, that's just as good and not stolen.
A $20 Monster or a $6 Monoprice cable? Monster=nobrainer
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Possession of stolen merchandise or legitimately purchased equipment? No brainer.
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Old 01-18-08 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by exm
A $20 Monster or a $6 Monoprice cable? Monster=nobrainer
You honestly can't be this daft can you? Your comments seem more to stir the pot than anything else.
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Old 01-18-08 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
stir the pot than anything else.
May I stir the pot for once in this thread?
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Old 01-18-08 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
You honestly can't be this daft can you? Your comments seem more to stir the pot than anything else.
I honestly don't think he is. I believe at this point he is just trying to make an argument. All of his weak points have been shot down and I believe he realizes this. Some people just feel better spending more money on cables, and that is fine. I think the vast majority of people in this thread haven't fallen for anything he has said, so I don't think he has done any harm - except to himself. I can't see anyone putting too much stock in his opinions after this thread.
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Old 01-18-08 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cpgator
All of his weak points have been shot down and I believe he realizes this.
What's weak to you is strong to me. What's strong to you is weak to me.

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Some people just feel better spending more money on cables, and that is fine.
Are you sure? You don't sound like it judging all the other quotes...

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I think the vast majority of people in this thread haven't fallen for anything he has said, so I don't think he has done any harm - except to himself.


How have I done harm to myself? Besides, I don't need anyone to 'fall' for my argument. I am sure you don't even know what my argument is. Why don't you tell me what you think I'm trying to argue?

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I can't see anyone putting too much stock in his opinions after this thread.
Better put them in the DJI
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Old 01-18-08 | 03:37 PM
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A $20 Monster or a $6 Monoprice cable? Monster=nobrainer
Wow.
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