and not everyone gives a damn about "interactive" features. i rarely watch extras on dvds so all this bickering about "blu-ray spec isn't finished" nonsense is useless to me. this thread is hilarious. it has been derailed into a blu-ray bashing one. how sad. most people who claim to support both are now showing their true colors.

all this "underwhelming" news is just too funny. you talk about elegance and your toshiba hd-a20. well i have an hd-a3 and there is nothing elegant about it. the player itself looks plain as does the remote. it takes forever to start up after pressing the power button. the setup menu looks like it was created by a child. my ps3 on the other hand, starts up fairly quick to a nice XMB menu system. i was totally underwhelmed by the toshiba. the only reason i bought it was because there was a deal on it. video quality wise, it all depends on the studio and what video codec they're using. earlier blu-rays used mpeg2 so they looked like crap. however the majority of blu-ray releases these days are using avc. you said the ps3 has no place in your home theater? how so? it doesn't look like a cheap toy like the xbox 360. it looks like it belongs in the home theater with all the other home theater equipment. btw, your car analogy was horrible. hd-dvd = bmw, blu-ray = ford. absolutely hilarious! you hd-dvd only guys seriously crack me up. you whine about the most trivial things. those things mind you, the majority of people don't even care about. sorry guys.

Okay, so this thread has gone beyond ridiculous. Basically, all I'm hearing is that Sony is crap, Toshiba is crap, Samsung is crap, Blu-ray sucks, HD DVD sucks, etc. All this in a Contact Warner thread. Closing thread.

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