Reuters/USA Today: Warner Bros. will back only Blu-ray
01-04-08 | 08:16 PM
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oh boy...good point...I can see it declining throughout the 2008 and beyond since they have invested so much into it.
Originally Posted by Peep
Any news on after-hours trading of Toshiba stock?
01-04-08 | 08:17 PM
#352
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Originally Posted by bluetoast
I'm pretty sure they have incentive to get people to actually buy the player. Just because they "won" doesn't mean everybody is automatically going to go out and get one. Not sure when, but I'm positive there will be lower prices this year.
01-04-08 | 08:23 PM
#353
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
I think now that they have "won" you are more likely to see cheaper players. They will want as many people as possible to buy their players so that software sales will proliferate.
I won't be purchasing at PS3 at $300+ just to get a BD player, even if that is the cheapest option and still considered the way to go. Which means I might sit on the sidelines even longer with no HDM/DVD purchases until the time a ~$100-$150 player is available (with a few free movies). Same with media, if everything being released is going to be ~$20 for the next year or so.
01-04-08 | 08:24 PM
#354
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
They have EVERY incentive to lower prices.
Perhaps it's time to consider HDM a niche format, and leave a future technology like downloads for the mass market?
01-04-08 | 08:25 PM
#355
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Originally Posted by darkside
I'm hoping so. The technically have yet to even make a dent in DVD sales so hopefully the sales continue.
01-04-08 | 08:25 PM
#357
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Hey guys, I just popped in an HD-DVD and it didn't work. What's going on?
Seriously, I think we all knew this was gonna happen eventually. There's no way in hell I would ever re-buy a Blu-ray movie that I owned on HD-DVD. There's no upgrade there. I own both formats and financially speaking I've supported both formats nearly evenly. I like to think this announcement could fuel Paramount/Dreamworks to release a ton of movies same goes for Universal.
And yes I will still buy HD-DVDs. If my player ever breaks down I will buy another one (with this new fangled thing called the internet you can buy stuff if they stop manufacturing them.)
HD-DVDs won't be obsolete until a new format with better PQ and AQ comes along. At least that how's I look at it.
Seriously, I think we all knew this was gonna happen eventually. There's no way in hell I would ever re-buy a Blu-ray movie that I owned on HD-DVD. There's no upgrade there. I own both formats and financially speaking I've supported both formats nearly evenly. I like to think this announcement could fuel Paramount/Dreamworks to release a ton of movies same goes for Universal.
And yes I will still buy HD-DVDs. If my player ever breaks down I will buy another one (with this new fangled thing called the internet you can buy stuff if they stop manufacturing them.)
HD-DVDs won't be obsolete until a new format with better PQ and AQ comes along. At least that how's I look at it.
Warner Brothers just sucks as a company. So, I welcome Blu-ray owners to take a good downwind sniff of what a lot of us have been experiencing. I hope WB shuts down their website for sales and only distributes the discs to places like Amazon DeepDiscount, etc.
This is going to be an excellent time to buy some movies. Maybe now we'll see a B1G1 Free from Amazon. Probably more like B1G5 Free! And all the other websites selling HD DVDs, this is probably the best time EVER for HD DVD owners.
Due to a shitty economy, I'm surprised WB decided to go this route.
I'm not as angry as I once was, because I think while I don't like Sony as a company, this will finally put them on the spot to perform and make them entirely responsible for the success of the HD format.
01-04-08 | 08:26 PM
#358
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Originally Posted by DivxGuy
Rationalizations aside, less competition means higher prices. And Blu-ray discs are more expensive to replicate, something that will start to weigh in if volumes rise.
Perhaps it's time to consider HDM a niche format, and leave a future technology like downloads for the mass market?
Perhaps it's time to consider HDM a niche format, and leave a future technology like downloads for the mass market?
01-04-08 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
What will Toshiba do now that the writing is on the wall? Will they begin plans for a dual format player?
01-04-08 | 08:28 PM
#360
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Yeah, there's no fucking way I'm re-buying my HD DVD collection on Blu-ray, not to mention my XA2 does an excellent job at upsampling SD DVDs. No point in selling anything.
Warner Brothers just sucks as a company. So, I welcome Blu-ray owners to take a good downwind sniff of what a lot of us have been experiencing. I hope WB shuts down their website for sales and only distributes the discs to places like Amazon DeepDiscount, etc.
This is going to be an excellent time to buy some movies. Maybe now we'll see a B1G1 Free from Amazon. Probably more like B1G5 Free! And all the other websites selling HD DVDs, this is probably the best time EVER for HD DVD owners.
Due to a shitty economy, I'm surprised WB decided to go this route.
I'm not as angry as I once was, because I think while I don't like Sony as a company, this will finally put them on the spot to perform and make them entirely responsible for the success of the HD format.
Warner Brothers just sucks as a company. So, I welcome Blu-ray owners to take a good downwind sniff of what a lot of us have been experiencing. I hope WB shuts down their website for sales and only distributes the discs to places like Amazon DeepDiscount, etc.
This is going to be an excellent time to buy some movies. Maybe now we'll see a B1G1 Free from Amazon. Probably more like B1G5 Free! And all the other websites selling HD DVDs, this is probably the best time EVER for HD DVD owners.
Due to a shitty economy, I'm surprised WB decided to go this route.
I'm not as angry as I once was, because I think while I don't like Sony as a company, this will finally put them on the spot to perform and make them entirely responsible for the success of the HD format.
01-04-08 | 08:29 PM
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Microsoft had the chance to make a huge difference in this, when they released the Elite and premiums with HDMI. The Elite should have been future-proof (HDMI 1.3) and had an internal HD-DVD, this could be a very different format war if they had pushed 360s with internal HD-DVD this holiday season.
01-04-08 | 08:31 PM
#362
Originally Posted by DivxGuy
Rationalizations aside, less competition means higher prices. And Blu-ray discs are more expensive to replicate, something that will start to weigh in if volumes rise.
Perhaps it's time to consider HDM a niche format, and leave a future technology like downloads for the mass market?
Perhaps it's time to consider HDM a niche format, and leave a future technology like downloads for the mass market?
01-04-08 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalGator311
Microsoft had the chance to make a huge difference in this, when they released the Elite and premiums with HDMI. The Elite should have been future-proof (HDMI 1.3) and had an internal HD-DVD, this could be a very different format war if they had pushed 360s with internal HD-DVD this holiday season.
01-04-08 | 08:32 PM
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***INSIDER DAVID VAUGHN, FROM ANOTHER FORUM***
"Anyway, here is what I know. Warner and Toshiba had a deal last week with another "unnamed studio" (if you have read my posts, you should be able to figure it out and they would be considered a "major")...anyway, at the last minute, the unnamed studio got cold feet and walked out on the deal. Warner was NOT going to go to HD DVD alone because it would cause more of a stalemate and Toshiba needed to get another "player" in the group. When this other studio left the table, Warner had one choice to end the format war and that was to go to Blu-ray.
I've known about these negotiations for a while and there are others on here that can confirm because I confided in them in PM's on the condition that they kept the information tightly held. I knew a decision was going to be made today for the past couple of weeks and told people to expect a decision on the 4th. I didn't know which way Warner would go until just before the press release hit the wires...I was contacted by two sources within 1 minute of each other and I thank those sources for providing me information. I had sent an email to both my editor at Home Theater as well as Home Theater Spot informing them of Warner's decision just before Reuters reported the news.
I don't know what Toshiba will do, but for all intent and purpose, the format war is over as far as I am concerned."
Very interesting. Sounds like Toshiba had a deal with....Disney? Once they backed out, that forced WB to go Blu only. WOW.
"Anyway, here is what I know. Warner and Toshiba had a deal last week with another "unnamed studio" (if you have read my posts, you should be able to figure it out and they would be considered a "major")...anyway, at the last minute, the unnamed studio got cold feet and walked out on the deal. Warner was NOT going to go to HD DVD alone because it would cause more of a stalemate and Toshiba needed to get another "player" in the group. When this other studio left the table, Warner had one choice to end the format war and that was to go to Blu-ray.
I've known about these negotiations for a while and there are others on here that can confirm because I confided in them in PM's on the condition that they kept the information tightly held. I knew a decision was going to be made today for the past couple of weeks and told people to expect a decision on the 4th. I didn't know which way Warner would go until just before the press release hit the wires...I was contacted by two sources within 1 minute of each other and I thank those sources for providing me information. I had sent an email to both my editor at Home Theater as well as Home Theater Spot informing them of Warner's decision just before Reuters reported the news.
I don't know what Toshiba will do, but for all intent and purpose, the format war is over as far as I am concerned."
Very interesting. Sounds like Toshiba had a deal with....Disney? Once they backed out, that forced WB to go Blu only. WOW.
Last edited by Mr. Cinema; 01-04-08 at 08:34 PM.
01-04-08 | 08:32 PM
#365
Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Why do you say that WB sucks as a company? Is it because they chose Blu-Ray? Their online store which has been very incompetent over the last several months? Would they suck as a company had they chose HD-Dvd?
Last edited by DVD Polizei; 01-04-08 at 08:35 PM.
01-04-08 | 08:33 PM
#366
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Why do you say that WB sucks as a company? Is it because they chose Blu-Ray? Their online store which has been very incompetent over the last several months? Would they suck as a company had they chose HD-Dvd?
My ship date for my last disc is in February. EIGHT MONTHS after my order.
01-04-08 | 08:33 PM
#367
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Do you honestly think that the BD consortium will grant a license to Toshiba?
01-04-08 | 08:34 PM
#368
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
***DAVID VAUGHN, FROM ANOTHER FORUM***
"Anyway, here is what I know. Warner and Toshiba had a deal last week with another "unnamed studio" (if you have read my posts, you should be able to figure it out and they would be considered a "major")...anyway, at the last minute, the unnamed studio got cold feet and walked out on the deal. Warner was NOT going to go to HD DVD alone because it would cause more of a stalemate and Toshiba needed to get another "player" in the group. When this other studio left the table, Warner had one choice to end the format war and that was to go to Blu-ray.
I've known about these negotiations for a while and there are others on here that can confirm because I confided in them in PM's on the condition that they kept the information tightly held. I knew a decision was going to be made today for the past couple of weeks and told people to expect a decision on the 4th. I didn't know which way Warner would go until just before the press release hit the wires...I was contacted by two sources within 1 minute of each other and I thank those sources for providing me information. I had sent an email to both my editor at Home Theater as well as Home Theater Spot informing them of Warner's decision just before Reuters reported the news.
I don't know what Toshiba will do, but for all intent and purpose, the format war is over as far as I am concerned."
Very interesting. Sounds like Toshiba had a deal with....Disney? Once they backed out, that forced WB to go Blu only. WOW.
"Anyway, here is what I know. Warner and Toshiba had a deal last week with another "unnamed studio" (if you have read my posts, you should be able to figure it out and they would be considered a "major")...anyway, at the last minute, the unnamed studio got cold feet and walked out on the deal. Warner was NOT going to go to HD DVD alone because it would cause more of a stalemate and Toshiba needed to get another "player" in the group. When this other studio left the table, Warner had one choice to end the format war and that was to go to Blu-ray.
I've known about these negotiations for a while and there are others on here that can confirm because I confided in them in PM's on the condition that they kept the information tightly held. I knew a decision was going to be made today for the past couple of weeks and told people to expect a decision on the 4th. I didn't know which way Warner would go until just before the press release hit the wires...I was contacted by two sources within 1 minute of each other and I thank those sources for providing me information. I had sent an email to both my editor at Home Theater as well as Home Theater Spot informing them of Warner's decision just before Reuters reported the news.
I don't know what Toshiba will do, but for all intent and purpose, the format war is over as far as I am concerned."
Very interesting. Sounds like Toshiba had a deal with....Disney? Once they backed out, that forced WB to go Blu only. WOW.
01-04-08 | 08:35 PM
#369
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Very interesting. Sounds like Toshiba had a deal with....Disney? Once they backed out, that forced WB to go Blu only. WOW.
01-04-08 | 08:35 PM
#370
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Speaking of their store, today, i got item number 3 of 4 from my order placed in JULY 2007. The ONE BD disc came in a box the size of a case of canned vegetables.
My ship date for my last disc is in February. EIGHT MONTHS after my order.
My ship date for my last disc is in February. EIGHT MONTHS after my order.
01-04-08 | 08:37 PM
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Well after 2150 DVD titles and 12 HD-DVD titles (including Zodiac: DC and the 5-disk Blade Runner) it looks like my love for movies is coming to an end. The major studios over the past 2 years have obviously stated to care less and less about the quality of supplements and the way they treat the fan. No inserts, cover art, commentaries, exclusive supplements on HD-DVD disks (which is the only reason I bought an HD-DVD player 2 months ago; that's right they played dirty and they got me ...) really make me lose enthusiasm for all forms of DVD...We had a few good years though didnt we my love....
01-04-08 | 08:39 PM
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http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/04...rner-went-blu/
This article suggests it was FOX who turned down Toshiba's offer, which then forced WB to leave.
This article suggests it was FOX who turned down Toshiba's offer, which then forced WB to leave.
01-04-08 | 08:40 PM
#375
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Well after 2150 DVD titles and 12 HD-DVD titles (including Zodiac: DC and the 5-disk Blade Runner) it looks like my love for movies is coming to an end. The major studios over the past 2 years have obviously stated to care less and less about the quality of supplements and the way they treat the fan. No inserts, cover art, commentaries, exclusive supplements on HD-DVD disks (which is the only reason I bought an HD-DVD player 2 months ago; that's right they played dirty and they got me ...) really make me lose enthusiasm for all forms of DVD...We had a few good years though didnt we my love....