personally, i have no idea what percentage of people actually want PiP, but i think sweeping statements either way are of no benefit (ie., "everyone with a profile 1.0 player is screwed!" or "No one should care about profile 1.1, PiP has no value"). everyone ought to be able to express their personal preference for a 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 player, etc, without the discussion delving into those kinds of statements. in that sense, i think you and i are probably in agreement.

as to what the majority wants or doesn't want, here's all i know for sure: enough people are interested in PiP that the BDA decided to develop the technology and studios have decided to utilize it in some releases. others don't care about it at all.

As long as you really feel the "everyone with a profile 1.0 player is screwed!" posts should stop as well, yes, people might agree with you. But what's interesting is I don't see you quoting their posts and calling them out. Why is that? IMO, as long as the "we're screwed" posts exist, there should be responses.

quite simply because i had not caught up on this thread in awhile and simply posted at the time i caught up. there is no need to read into something that is not there. my statements stand on their own. if you'd like to look through the history of the blu-ray thread, you'd find that in the past i've suggested people calling profile 1.0 players "obsolete" were inappropriate to do so. if you have a personal beef with me, feel free to PM me.

German distibutor Constantin will be going Blu-Ray exclusive as of March. RE: Extinction will be their last HD-DVD release as per Grubert.

http://www.areadvd.de/news/2008/2008...nstantin.shtml

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=19&cs=1

The console bash/fanboy mindset is the biggest turn-off of HDM. Had HD DVD won, would we see as many people who are clearly just fanboys for their videogame system of choice flaming and baiting as we see now? Maybe, but I think that the presence of BD turns every PS3 fanboy into a BD fanboy as well (preemptively saying that I don't think all PS3 owners are fanboys nor all BD supporters) who will support any BD-positive nugget of info. The X-Box/HD DVD intersection was there, but I don't think it would have been as bad.

How different this might all be without the PS3.

It will be a riot to se how they reconcile themselves when MS releases a BD player for Xbox.

In fact he just said it. Don't waste your time trying to deal with this one, friend.

If the PS3 actually had some games, maybe these Sony fanboys wouldnt have so much time on their hands to post their extremely biased opinions.

Flaming and baiting? You mean posts like this...

Didn't you post some 8yo like rant where you said you were puting me on ignore? So above everything else you're a liar too.

Is the personal attack above lobbed by QGJ allowed here? Seems a lot more out of line than anything else I've seen here lately.

Even though they are distributed on per title basis in the US this is great news fro the Blu team. Der Untergang will be a disc to own.

Pro-B

I'll just take your word for it pro-b.

das ist great news (if/when it gets out that is)

It is an awesome movie. One of the best WW2 movies of all time imo.

When watching it, it almost felt like you were watching the actual events as they occurred. Stunning.

cardaway, both you and Qui Gon Jim need to cool down.

Cool, but I didn't get answer. Are those kind of personal attacks allowed or not? If not, they should be deleted. That last one was really out of line.

1. Posts like THIS won't get you anywhere. In fact, it only leads to further mod actions.
2. Not 100% sure what post you are referring to, but hope you're not referring to a post from a CLOSED thread. If a thread is closed, then that should suffice.
3. The most offensive post on this page is this: "Didn't you post some 8yo like rant where you said you were puting me on ignore? So above everything else you're a liar too." You are one step from suspension. This is an official warning.

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You'll have a PM.

Stolen from AVS:

Here is a very interesting comment from Maxpower (Blu-ray insider) regarding PS3 DTS HD-MA support from the insider thread from question from bchalmers:

Quote:
Originally Posted by bchalmers
Max,

There has been much speculation as to if/when Sony will enable DTS MA decoding inside the PS3. From what you know and/or can say, is the reason that this has NOT occurred technological or political in nature?

When I say political, is this a way for the BDA to allow CEs like Panasonic and Pioneer to differentiate their SA players?

Do you know if Fox has weighed in on the issue, considering the fact that the majority of BR owners cannot fully benefit from the features they are including on their releases?

Thanks,
bchalmers

Well you are along the right lines with it being political in nature.

Profile 1.1 was not given to the PS3 until at least one standalone player was on the market with it, DTS-MA will be no different.


So it appears that internal decoding of DTS HD-MA to PCM is coming but Sony won't update until a standalone player is on the market. This makes alot of sense, in that Sony doesn't want to screw any CE over by bringing a Blu-ray feature to PS3 first. Of course, as most of you know, bitstreaming is out of the question due to hardware limitations. I think the new BD-50 from Panny (announces at CES) will most likely be the first BR player to market with internal decoding. Don't look for DTS HD-MA support from PS3 until then.

Yeah they are just happy bad-mouthing the other CE Blu Ray products.

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Pro-B

I was going to say I knew there was a reason I was holding off on picking up Predator on DVD, but I forgot that I actually have the original DTS single-disc release. But I'll be happy to upgrade to the Blu-Ray for the improved A/V quality and to ditch those ugly menus from the original DTS release!

Wow! Will Commando actually make it to stores this time? A year later!

Damn Fox and their MPEG-2 encodes!

Sounds like they're just using the same Commando disc that almost got out last year. Typical.

Also sounds like Predator may have been ready to go for a while.

I am going to go on a limb here and state that these two were ready long before Fox moved to other encodes. I don't remember who was it that asked me here but these two titles were supposed to be released immediately after CES (the info came after the Japanese flyer), I believe it was February, and there was even a supplier memo that was in circulation. Then they canceled them, the US dates, altogether. (It was either Bunkaroo or Matome that asked but I don't remember well...).

Pro-B

edit: Yes, I think it was Bunkaroo...