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Old 06-04-11 | 11:30 AM
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I'd be willing to guess the initial release will only be the box set. They know enough people want JP1 enough they'll pay for the other 2 and leave them in the box
Old 06-04-11 | 12:15 PM
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With JP, it wouldn't surprise me to see a trilogy set as the initial release, then individual releases later, like the Alien series.

As for Jaws, I highly doubt any of those sequels will hit BD anytime soon, if ever.
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If they wanted to do a really cool package, they could have a big can of shaving cream that you pull the bottom out of which holds the three discs. Or maybe an egg sort of like the Easter ones that would hold the discs.
Old 06-04-11 | 03:52 PM
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If they wanted to do a really cool package, they could have a big can of shaving cream that you pull the bottom out of which holds the three discs. Or maybe an egg sort of like the Easter ones that would hold the discs.
that'd be a big fucking can of shaving cream.
Old 06-04-11 | 06:31 PM
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Or maybe they could have something like what they did with the A-Team set and have the discs inside of one of those green and yellow Ford Explorers from the movie....only in plastic. The A-Team van can fall apart pretty easily as it's only cheap cardboard.
Old 06-04-11 | 07:41 PM
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How about they just have the BDs in a JP gate entrance?
Old 06-04-11 | 07:45 PM
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I don't give a crap about fancy packaging. And I only like the first and third (despite its "there's no third act" ending). So I'll only bite if it's a $35 set.

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Old 06-04-11 | 08:42 PM
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I'd be willing to buy a trilogy pack if it's not too expensive (around $40 or so). If it's more than that I'd probably just wait for individual releases as I too like the original, hate The Lost World, and think that Jurassic Park III is only decent.
Old 06-04-11 | 09:08 PM
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JP1 only for me. I'd watch the 2nd since I've seen it 1 time. Never seen 3.
Old 06-04-11 | 10:10 PM
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JP1 is the only I want and need.
Old 06-05-11 | 05:55 AM
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I hate these boxed set-only releases because it keeps them away from Netflix.
Old 06-05-11 | 11:37 AM
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I'd have to double check but I don't think I've ever had a problem with these releases through Blockbuster online
Old 06-05-11 | 04:18 PM
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I'm not terribly in love with either of the sequels, but I did dig a lot of the bonus content for both of them on DVD so if that material is retained I'll feel more comfortable buying the whole box set. Also, a local theater is doing a midnight screening of Jurassic Park in July, which I intend to attend and that might be enough to make me enthusiastic enough to overcome my lukewarm feelings toward the sequels and pull the trigger on a trilogy box.
Old 06-05-11 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
Or maybe they could have something like what they did with the A-Team set and have the discs inside of one of those green and yellow Ford Explorers from the movie....only in plastic.
And if anybody attempted to steal them a BB employee would approach them by surprise and blind them.
Old 06-06-11 | 03:16 AM
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Universal has confirmed this will be out for the 2011 holiday season.
Old 06-07-11 | 12:50 PM
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So will there be an LFE debacle like there was with the initial DTS DVD release?
Old 06-10-11 | 03:23 AM
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I'd definitely want JP1. JP3 was a decent flick, and did a good job of replicating the feel of the books.

JP2 was a complete joke, and I refuse to buy any set that would have that movie in it. You almost got the feeling Crichton actually wanted to kill the franchise with that one. Almost like he just sat back and said "Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. Dinosaurs running through the streets? Yeah, fine. King Kong? Godzilla? Whatever. Go for it. I'll hire a ghost writer to write the book for me with whatever you want in it because I could really care less about dinosaurs at this point. Just back the Brinks truck up to my front door and don't knock. I don't want to be bothered."
Old 06-10-11 | 05:00 AM
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Loved JP1 and I thought JP3 was really fun. Didn't like the 2nd film.

I bought the DVD Trilogy Set used for $4 a couple months ago, so I won't have any issue upgrading these when they are released
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Originally Posted by Ignohippo
JP2 was a complete joke, and I refuse to buy any set that would have that movie in it. You almost got the feeling Crichton actually wanted to kill the franchise with that one. Almost like he just sat back and said "Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. Dinosaurs running through the streets? Yeah, fine. King Kong? Godzilla? Whatever. Go for it. I'll hire a ghost writer to write the book for me with whatever you want in it because I could really care less about dinosaurs at this point. Just back the Brinks truck up to my front door and don't knock. I don't want to be bothered."
For the record, the book is significantly different from the movie.
Old 06-10-11 | 06:28 AM
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For the record, the book is significantly different from the movie.
Wasn't it Spielberg who brought the dinosaurs back to the mainland? Supposedly as a sendup to those Japanese films. Originally it was more like 3 then he changed direction and saved the unused ideas to create 3.
Old 06-10-11 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ignohippo
JP2 was a complete joke, and I refuse to buy any set that would have that movie in it. You almost got the feeling Crichton actually wanted to kill the franchise with that one. Almost like he just sat back and said "Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. Dinosaurs running through the streets? Yeah, fine. King Kong? Godzilla? Whatever. Go for it. I'll hire a ghost writer to write the book for me with whatever you want in it because I could really care less about dinosaurs at this point. Just back the Brinks truck up to my front door and don't knock. I don't want to be bothered."
Crichton brought the dinos to the mainland in JP, but didn't really have much to do with the Lost World movie. The book wasn't even finished when Speilberg started writing the sequel from what I recall. MC gave him a brief synopsis to get him rolling. They were kinda developed concurrently. Speilberg did his own thing and when Crichton was done, he pulled what he wanted from it(i.e. the cliff scene). That's why a lot of the movie is simply scenes that were pulled from the original JP novel, yet rejected from that movie.*

The T-rex in San Diego was an homage to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Lost World, and Speilberg's idea.

As for it being a cash grab for Speilberg, IIRC it was done merely for the fans since he never did a sequel to Jaws or E.T. when fans begged.

*unfortunately none of this is on wiki, but at the time the JP series was my main interest and I read up on it like crazy. The idea that they were developed at the same time but had nothing to do with each other blew my mind at the time, therefore stuck in my head.
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Also, in JP3, there's a scene where they are being chased by a T-Rex on a river and are trying to outrun it on a boat. That scene was lifted straight from the Jurassic Park book. Yeah, I remember being a bit underwhelmed by Crichton's Lost World, but I was hoping the movie would have been like the book. Instead they dumbed it down significantly.
Old 06-10-11 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ignohippo
I'd definitely want JP1. JP3 was a decent flick, and did a good job of replicating the feel of the books.
I liked Jurassic Park III at the time, but that was a decade ago. Now it just feels like that last disc in a CD box set that cobbles together outtakes and alternate versions.

JP2 was a complete joke, and I refuse to buy any set that would have that movie in it.
Really? You'd refuse to buy a set that includes two movies you seem to like because it includes one you don't? Your choice, of course, but this just seems childish.

You almost got the feeling Crichton actually wanted to kill the franchise with that one. Almost like he just sat back and said "Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. Dinosaurs running through the streets? Yeah, fine. King Kong? Godzilla? Whatever. Go for it. I'll hire a ghost writer to write the book for me with whatever you want in it because I could really care less about dinosaurs at this point. Just back the Brinks truck up to my front door and don't knock. I don't want to be bothered."
As has already been clarified, Crichton's involvement with the sequels was almost exclusively as the guy who created the source material. David Koepp was the credited screenwriter for The Lost World: Jurassic Park, working in part from ideas of Steven Spielberg himself whose only other sequel work to that point had been Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Spielberg really just wanted to play with dinosaurs and make a monster movie in which he was free to do as he pleased, not beholden to a novel.

There are still things I like about The Lost World, particularly Pete Posthlethwaite as Roland Tembo. There's a terrific deleted scene shown on the DVD with him that I really wish had been left in the final cut. I liked the basic premise of the story, which is that once the Jurassic Park operation had begun it was impossible to contain and be kept in secrecy. It's actually a worthy continuation of the themes of the first film and Crichton's work in that regard.

Where it loses me:

The T-rex attack on the trailer compound just won't end and by the end of it I don't even care if anyone survives; I just want it to be over
Malcolm's daughter, who seems to exist almost exclusively just to set up an acrobatic attack on a velociraptor
San Diego - The arrival at the harbor was great, but then once it was running amok it just got silly

Initially I disliked John Williams's score but in fairness I think it's because I really just wanted to hear another score just like the first one (which ranks as my personal favorite of his works to date). Over the years I've come to appreciate that he didn't just regurgitate the first film's score, and I actually like the main theme itself. It's not a terribly engaging score, though, and often devolves into nearly monotonous percussion. I will say I think it suits the film--for better or worse.
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I like the trailer scene. I think I was just the right age and with exactly the right fervent imagination for it to work perfectly for me. The acrobat stuff is admittedly stupid.

It's a terrible idea, bringing the dinosaur on land, but for some weird reason I always like it when something that isn't there, like a CG dinosaur, interacts with something that is, so I always like, say, the part when the T-rex rams the bus, because I just like the idea that it's this weird bus prop designed to crumple and they put the dinosaur in. Don't know why that fascinates me but it does.
Old 06-10-11 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
I like the trailer scene. I think I was just the right age and with exactly the right fervent imagination for it to work perfectly for me. The acrobat stuff is admittedly stupid.
To each his own, of course. I just found the trailer scene overlong and tiresome. As for the daughter, it wasn't just the acrobatics that was the problem. It's that her entire point for being in the movie seems to be to lead up to that moment. We don't even really see her after that, because they're evacuated from the island shortly thereafter and she's largely absent from the second half of the film. And in the first half where she is present her only real contribution to the story is to give Malcolm and his girlfriend the appearance of domesticity. It just feels like they were afraid that kids would lose interest waiting for dinosaurs unless there was someone their age on screen.

It's a terrible idea, bringing the dinosaur on land, but for some weird reason I always like it when something that isn't there, like a CG dinosaur, interacts with something that is, so I always like, say, the part when the T-rex rams the bus, because I just like the idea that it's this weird bus prop designed to crumple and they put the dinosaur in. Don't know why that fascinates me but it does.
In principle, I'm fine with all that. I just felt it didn't work in this film. It seems incongruous with the first half (and first film).


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