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Vipper II 12-05-07 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by applesandrice
YNot to mention how much wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck etc., etc.

;)

What about the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Does it have that answer?

applesandrice 12-05-07 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Vipper II
What about the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Does it have that answer?


42.

Wait -- that was the answer to something else entirely . . .:)

Hmm . . . "the world may never know!"

Josh Z 12-05-07 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by applesandrice
You don't think it's in there? Man -- they know what kind of cereal you ate for breakfast this morning and all the times you pick your nose when you thought that nobody was lookin'! Not to mention how much wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck etc., etc.

Apparently it can also cure cancer, but only if you buy enough games.

Qui Gon Jim 12-05-07 03:31 PM

I think any talk about sales for either side needs to include all three factors:
Capable Players sold
Software units sold
Software units sold per capable player sold.

All three numbers are equally important. The day that BD finally overtakes HD DVD in software units sold per capable player sold we will see every Sony fanboy THEN proclaim its importance, as they did with the first two numbers.

Until a format holds all three numbers, there really is no "winner."

PS3 fanboys can't say it is reasonable to count the PS3 numbers and not count attach rate. The two are inseparable.

Harry Lime 12-05-07 03:37 PM


Title Announcements at High-Def 2.0

Some new information as to high-def title plans for 2008 - all Blu-ray due to the other camp taking a pass - was offered at the event as well, during a studio panel late in the day. First, Sony revealed that Kevin Smith's Dogma is due to arrive on Blu-ray on 2/12, with Run Lola Run following on 2/19. In addition to the release of Resident Evil: Extinction on 1/1, Sony will street a Resident Evil: The High-Definition Trilogy set on Blu-ray the same day. The Guns of Navarone and A Passage to India are apparently on the way in early 2008, with Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia expected to follow later in the year. Sony also hinted that they're going to experiment with more advanced BD-Java features in 2008. Further down the line, Disney, Fox, Sony and Lionsgate all confirmed that they're going to be expanding their Blu-ray release slate in 2008. Fox revealed that new theatrical titles like Juno, Hitman, Horton Hears a Who and Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium will all be released, as well as many new catalog titles. Lionsgate expects to deliver Saw IV in January, while Disney confirmed that Finding Nemo and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe will both feature PiP video.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Rusty James 12-05-07 03:41 PM

Aside from Lawrence of Arabia and Bridge on the River Kwai (both of which we already knew were on their way), the only other title in there that makes me happy is Finding Nemo (my all-time favorite Pixar movie).

tonymontana313 12-05-07 03:57 PM

Chronicles of Narnia and Lawrence of Arabia will be huge for 08.

cartman 12-05-07 04:32 PM

I have no idea what "High-Def 2.0" is, but I can't wait for Lawrence of Arabia and Finding Nemo, even if they likely won't be out for another year :lol:. I'm surprised Fox didn't announce another 100 titles with dates.

rexinnih 12-05-07 05:09 PM

Nemo is going to be brilliant in HD! Can't wait.

Zen Peckinpah 12-05-07 06:50 PM

Run Lola Run is mine...never bought the SD. Get on Leon pronto Sony!

And Dogma in HD? Three words: 1080p Shit Demon. That is all.

PopcornTreeCt 12-05-07 07:51 PM

Can't wait for Finding Nemo.

Really wish Sony was working on getting Leon out instead of Dogma, well I'd take any Sony title over Dogma.

redbill 12-05-07 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I think any talk about sales for either side needs to include all three factors:
Capable Players sold
Software units sold
Software units sold per capable player sold.

All three numbers are equally important. The day that BD finally overtakes HD DVD in software units sold per capable player sold we will see every Sony fanboy THEN proclaim its importance, as they did with the first two numbers.

Until a format holds all three numbers, there really is no "winner."

PS3 fanboys can't say it is reasonable to count the PS3 numbers and not count attach rate. The two are inseparable.

technicaly, that's only 2 stats (this first 2), the third is a direct calculation of the first 2. I don't think you can draw clear conclusions to those stats unless you are able to have statistics such as "capable units sold with intent to play only BluRays" to differentiate ps3 sales between BD+gaming, only-gaming, and only-BR. Without that stat, which is impossible to determine, you'll never get the statistics you're looking for.

Qui Gon Jim 12-06-07 06:54 AM

I disagree. The third number is a direct function of the first two. If you think studios are not looking at how many discs are sold for each player that is sold, then you are fooling yourself. In a lot of ways, this number can be more important that total units sold.

If we agree to count any unit capable of playing a format into the total installed userbase, which I think is the only reasonable way to count this number, then the number of media units sold per capable player becomes an indispensable number, since the number of capable and utilized decks is such a widely disputed number.

pricdews 12-06-07 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I disagree. The third number is a direct function of the first two. If you think studios are not looking at how many discs are sold for each player that is sold, then you are fooling yourself. In a lot of ways, this number can be more important that total units sold.

If we agree to count any unit capable of playing a format into the total installed userbase, which I think is the only reasonable way to count this number, then the number of media units sold per capable player becomes an indispensable number, since the number of capable and utilized decks is such a widely disputed number.

I think studios are smart enough to realize some % of PS3 owners bought the machine for gaming and are ok with that.

Giles 12-06-07 09:35 AM


The Guns of Navarone and A Passage to India are apparently on the way in early 2008, with Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia expected to follow later in the year.
:drool:


Fox revealed that new theatrical titles like Juno, Hitman, Horton Hears a Who and Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium will all be released, as well as many new catalog titles.
I'll believe 'em when I see 'em


Lionsgate expects to deliver Saw IV in January
um, how about High Tension - floggin' the horse there aren't you Lionsgate?


while Disney confirmed that Finding Nemo and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe ]will both feature PiP video.
cool :thumbsup: Narnia looked amazing on StarzHD.

Mr. Cinema 12-06-07 09:43 AM

Very exicted about Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Finding Nemo.

I'd like to see these in 2008:

Fox: Alien, Aliens, Xmen 1 and 2, all Bonds, Last of the Mohicans, Patton, Platoon, The Poseidon Adventure, PREDATOR, remaining Rocky films, Young Frankenstein.

Sony: We should be seeing The DaVinici Code in '08. Air Force One, Bad Boys I & II, Christine, Glory (this was planned for '07), The Fog, Men in Black, The Natural, Taxi Driver.

I would also like to see Cabin Fever from LionsGate. And a better version of T2.

I hope Disney has plans for Armageddon next year. We in the US have yet to receive a proper widescreen presentation on home video. With the 10th Anniversary coming up, I'd sure like to see a BD50 with AVC and PCM audio. And all the extras from the Criterion release. Tombstone would be another release I'd love to see in '08.

also from Disney: The Others, Pulp Fiction, The Sixth Sense, Signs, Dick Tracy.

Giles 12-06-07 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Very exicted about Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Finding Nemo. Hopefully, Alien, Aliens, Xmen 1 and 2 are part of Fox's catalog plans in 2008. We should also be seeing The DaVinici Code in '08 from Sony.

I would also like to see Cabin Fever from LionsGate. And a better version of T2.

I hope Disney has plans for Armageddon next year. We in the US have yet to receive a proper widescreen presentation on home video. With the 10th Anniversary coming up, I'd sure like to see a BD50 with AVC and PCM audio. And all the extras from the Criterion release. Tombstone would be another release I'd love to see in '08.

in regards to the DaVinci Code - it would be great if it were the extended cut as it available to buy in import standard dvd form.

The Criterion release of Armageddon was also extended cut (for those who don't know that).

Armageddon / Will Patton = Sale!

Giles 12-06-07 10:01 AM

I thought all the Bond films went to Sony.

I'd love to own 'Adventures of Baron Munchausen' since I just watched it recently on Mojo HD.

Fox NEEDS to start releasing their musicals.

Drexl 12-06-07 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Giles
in regards to the DaVinci Code - it would be great if it were the extended cut as it available to buy in import standard dvd form.

What would be great is if they could include both cuts. Same deal with The Natural, which was slated to be released earlier this year as extended only.

tonymontana313 12-06-07 10:18 AM

For me, I am more than willing to forgive Fox if they can give us Angel in hi-def!

Adam Tyner 12-06-07 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313
For me, I am more than willing to forgive Fox if they can give us Angel in hi-def!

I'm not sure how many high-def seasons of Angel there are -- its fifth and final season is the only one that aired that way, at least. Like Firefly, I don't believe its effects were rendered in HD, so there'd be a noticeable drop in quality in those scenes.

Josh Z 12-06-07 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
in regards to the DaVinci Code - it would be great if it were the extended cut as it available to buy in import standard dvd form.

I'm pretty sure Sony is holding the extended cut of The DaVinci Code (people really want a longer version of that movie??!!) to tie in with the theatrical release of Angels & Demons, production of which has been pushed back due to the writer's strike.

Josh Z 12-06-07 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
I thought all the Bond films went to Sony.

No, MGM dropped Sony as their distributor and moved to Fox instead. The only Bond films that Sony has distribution rights to are Casino Royale and its upcoming sequel, because Sony is co-producer on those. The older catalog titles all now fall under Fox, who released them most recently on DVD.

Giles 12-06-07 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
I'm pretty sure Sony is holding the extended cut of The DaVinci Code (people really want a longer version of that movie??!!) to tie in with the theatrical release of Angels & Demons, production of which has been pushed back due to the writer's strike.

I enjoyed this movie more than the first viewing.


Originally Posted by Josh Z
No, MGM dropped Sony as their distributor and moved to Fox instead. The only Bond films that Sony has distribution rights to are Casino Royale and its upcoming sequel, because Sony is co-producer on those. The older catalog titles all now fall under Fox, who released them most recently on DVD.

oh that's right, I keep on forgetting the distribution of the MGM library

rexinnih 12-06-07 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Very exicted about Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Finding Nemo.

I'd like to see these in 2008:

Fox: Alien, Aliens, Xmen 1 and 2, all Bonds, Last of the Mohicans, Patton, Platoon, The Poseidon Adventure, PREDATOR, remaining Rocky films, Young Frankenstein.

Sony: We should be seeing The DaVinici Code in '08. Air Force One, Bad Boys I & II, Christine, Glory (this was planned for '07), The Fog, Men in Black, The Natural, Taxi Driver.

I would also like to see Cabin Fever from LionsGate. And a better version of T2.

I hope Disney has plans for Armageddon next year. We in the US have yet to receive a proper widescreen presentation on home video. With the 10th Anniversary coming up, I'd sure like to see a BD50 with AVC and PCM audio. And all the extras from the Criterion release. Tombstone would be another release I'd love to see in '08.

also from Disney: The Others, Pulp Fiction, The Sixth Sense, Signs, Dick Tracy.

Most of your requests mirror my own. I'd love to see those Fox titles released and of course Armageddon still is a guilty pleasure that would look fantastic in high def!


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