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11-20-06 | 11:11 AM
#151
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Very doubtful you'll see that very often, regardless of misleading documentation you'll find on the internet.
Also, it doesn't seem supported by the evidence, like the ATSC's own documents.
A/54: Guide to the Use of the ATSC Digital Television Standard
http://www.atsc.org/document_map/video.htm#A/54
"Transmissions conforming to the Digital Television Standard are expected to include the [18] video formats as described in Table 9.3. Receivers will have to extract the picture rates and video format information, and will have to perform the necessary interpolation and format conversion so that these video formats can be displayed in the ‘native’ display format of the receiver."
11-20-06 | 12:11 PM
#152
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
Thanks for that info. I had seen some of Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire on HBO the other night... but of course with an HBO-HD broadcast and a ratio of 16:9, I know it's not an accurate depiction of what the HD-DVD will hold but... damn. I wasn't very impressed. I'm sure they won't mess up THAT HD-DVD.
11-20-06 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
I think that's something inherent in the master, if not the photography itself (I didn't see this one in the theater).
In comparison, the photography is leaps and bounds ahead of the first two films, but slightly rougher and less polished than the third film. (Kinda like the quality of the films themselves, heh.)
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11-20-06 | 01:54 PM
#154
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Yeah but Goblet Of Fire had a bit of issues on DVD such as some digital artifact blocking and the black levels weren't all that nice either at times. It was a pretty standard DVD release, where most movies of this calibur on DVD get a near flawless transfer now-a-days. I was pretty disappointed. A chance to get an HD version of this title would be more than welcome, but if the same master was used and it doesn't look to have the digital and black level problems corrected... I'll pass.
11-20-06 | 03:23 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
So you don't think an ATSC tuner is required to support all 18 formats the ATSC allows? That doesn't make much sense, since the FCC would be shooting itself in the foot if it allowed non-standard ATSC tuners that wouldn't be able to accept everything the broadcasters are allowed to transmit.
11-20-06 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Nonetheless, how many HDTVs are there on the market right now that can accept 1080p at any rate, much less at 1080p24? A handful at most. Even most 1080p resolution displays top out their acceptable input at 1080i.
You are correct though....very few at this time.
11-21-06 | 10:29 AM
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For those who ordered the A2 from that porn place, ya ain't getting one.
I messed up.
I'm the manager for Adam and Eve on this project and have talked about the development of the product on this site.
I don't know what other companies are paying for HD A2s but it is a lot more than $250 and we are not going to be able to honor the large number of orders we got for the player.
I apologize.
We planned to sell players only as part of a package with adult HD DVD disks. I put the player in our computer system in order to include it in that package and did not enter the restrictions for its sale. Unfortunately, our web folks did not know it was a non-saleable product and it was put on the web.
We do not charge a card until the product ships so nobody has had any charge on any card. Our web folks will e-mail an apology to those who placed A2 orders and they will get something for my mistake.
Two things I feel the worst about: that my error might harm adult content on HD DVD and that Robert at Value Electronics might get any grief because I messed up. I talked to him a month ago and think he is an excellent guy who will provide the very best deal possible.
Again, sorry for causing the problem. Attached is my e-mail address if you would like to express you feelings directly.
[email protected]
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I'm the manager for Adam and Eve on this project and have talked about the development of the product on this site.
I don't know what other companies are paying for HD A2s but it is a lot more than $250 and we are not going to be able to honor the large number of orders we got for the player.
I apologize.
We planned to sell players only as part of a package with adult HD DVD disks. I put the player in our computer system in order to include it in that package and did not enter the restrictions for its sale. Unfortunately, our web folks did not know it was a non-saleable product and it was put on the web.
We do not charge a card until the product ships so nobody has had any charge on any card. Our web folks will e-mail an apology to those who placed A2 orders and they will get something for my mistake.
Two things I feel the worst about: that my error might harm adult content on HD DVD and that Robert at Value Electronics might get any grief because I messed up. I talked to him a month ago and think he is an excellent guy who will provide the very best deal possible.
Again, sorry for causing the problem. Attached is my e-mail address if you would like to express you feelings directly.
[email protected]
jlaures
11-21-06 | 10:35 AM
#158
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Originally Posted by Ian Whitcombe
I saw it twice in theatre, the second time in IMAX. Generally I found the photography very satisfying, though it's very atypical to how most big blockbusters look these days, so I can see why others might not like it. The picture could be grainy, sometimes excessively so near the end, but it had very, very nice shadow detail and (at times) eye-popping colours.
11-21-06 | 12:08 PM
#159
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
For those who ordered the A2 from that porn place, ya ain't getting one.
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11-21-06 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
I'll wait until I see that email before coming to any conclusions. If/When said email arrives, I'll contest it based on the fact that I have a receipt and that there was no indication that the vendor could renege. All signs pointed to it being a legitimate sale. If they had a "Terms and Conditions" section stating that the company could go back on a sale because of mitigating circumstances, I wouldn't have a problem. But, they didn't.
11-21-06 | 12:25 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
That's not an email. That's a direct post on AVS.
Originally Posted by AVS post
Our web folks will e-mail an apology to those who placed A2 orders and they will get something for my mistake.
And for the record, I'm pretty sure that posting something on an Internet message board is not an official way to go about cancelling an order.
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11-21-06 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
Sounds like I should be receiving an email. Do you perceive it differently?
And for the record, I'm pretty sure that posting something on an Internet message board is not a legal way to go about cancelling an order.
And for the record, I'm pretty sure that posting something on an Internet message board is not a legal way to go about cancelling an order.
And I never said that cancelling via internet message board was a legal way to cancel an order. Then again, I didn't know there was an "illegal" way.
11-21-06 | 01:22 PM
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So, Josh_Z is it confirmed that the XA2 will simply upconvert 1080i sources to 1080p like the Sammy bd player does? Ill let my tv do the upconversion if thats the case.
If so, im just gonna cancel my preorder and stick with the A1. Ill wait it out a bit.
If so, im just gonna cancel my preorder and stick with the A1. Ill wait it out a bit.
11-21-06 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
So, Josh_Z is it confirmed that the XA2 will simply upconvert 1080i sources to 1080p like the Sammy bd player does? Ill let my tv do the upconversion if thats the case.
If so, im just gonna cancel my preorder and stick with the A1. Ill wait it out a bit.
If so, im just gonna cancel my preorder and stick with the A1. Ill wait it out a bit.
11-21-06 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Yes. That was confirmed a long time ago...even before you ordered. That's why i never understood why you were ordering one.
Ill stick with the A1. Im not gonna spend $900 for 5 movies and an extra 20 seconds off the load time.
11-21-06 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Really? I never saw that in the avs thread...oh well.
Ill stick with the A1. Im not gonna spend $900 for 5 movies and an extra 20 seconds off the load time.
Ill stick with the A1. Im not gonna spend $900 for 5 movies and an extra 20 seconds off the load time.
11-21-06 | 04:49 PM
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Damn it, just got a cancellation email from AdamEve.com.
Dear Customer,
Some things are just too good to be true.
And, as much as I hate to have to tell you this, half off the Toshiba HD-DVD player is one of those things.
Our 50% off coupons were never meant to work with select high-end items, like the HD-DVD player. Because of the high wholesale cost to us, we simply can't afford to give this discount.
As our way to apologize, we're going to offer you another 50% off discount coupon to use on the site for the next 2 weeks on any of our other products.
Click here to claim your 50% discount off one item on your next order. Hurry, because this discount is only valid until midnight, Wednesday, December 4. If you are purchasing multiple items, the discount is applied to the lowest-priced item in your cart.
If you have any questions, please contact customer service by email or by phone at 1-800-293-4654.
Once more, I'm sorry for this error and any trouble it might have caused.
Sincerely yours,
Elizabeth Belle
Promotions Manager
Some things are just too good to be true.
And, as much as I hate to have to tell you this, half off the Toshiba HD-DVD player is one of those things.
Our 50% off coupons were never meant to work with select high-end items, like the HD-DVD player. Because of the high wholesale cost to us, we simply can't afford to give this discount.
As our way to apologize, we're going to offer you another 50% off discount coupon to use on the site for the next 2 weeks on any of our other products.
Click here to claim your 50% discount off one item on your next order. Hurry, because this discount is only valid until midnight, Wednesday, December 4. If you are purchasing multiple items, the discount is applied to the lowest-priced item in your cart.
If you have any questions, please contact customer service by email or by phone at 1-800-293-4654.
Once more, I'm sorry for this error and any trouble it might have caused.
Sincerely yours,
Elizabeth Belle
Promotions Manager
11-21-06 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
I'm 95% positive. I'd ask and make sure but I remember people posting that the only reason Toshiba is doing it is to "cheat" the same way BD is (saying that it's 1080p when it's not a native 1080p signal).
11-21-06 | 06:37 PM
#172
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Damn it, just got a cancellation email from AdamEve.com.
Originally Posted by Jeff's Response to them
So, is this order going to be canceled by Adam and Eve, or is it up to me to cancel it? My account still reflects the order and the discounted price, which is the only reason I placed the order. If you're stating I can't get the product for the quoted price of $249.50, plus shipping, for which I already have a receipt of sale, then I'd like the order to be canceled. Please let me know what must be done to carry out the cancellation.
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11-22-06 | 08:38 AM
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If anyone doesn't want their 50% off coupon could you please e-mail it to me? Could get my girlfriend some Christmas stuff from there I bet.
11-22-06 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spainlinx0
If anyone doesn't want their 50% off coupon could you please e-mail it to me? Could get my girlfriend some Christmas stuff from there I bet.
