HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray Disc vs. Everything Else: Round 5
11-09-06 | 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by PornoStar
From Amazon:
Polar Express
The Adventures of Robin Hood
Batman Begins
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
I need to pick 3 from the Toshiba promo; thinking Chronicles of Riddick, Casablanca, and Tomb Raider.
Other for sure buys: Dune, Serenity, King Kong, Waterworld, Bourne Supremacy, Corpse Bride
Maybe: Space Cowboys, Van Helsing
Need to let my breathing get back to normal before I buy eveything out there.
Phil
Welcome indeed, Nice to see another new person jumping over to HD. Have any idea what movies your getting first?
Polar Express
The Adventures of Robin Hood
Batman Begins
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
I need to pick 3 from the Toshiba promo; thinking Chronicles of Riddick, Casablanca, and Tomb Raider.
Other for sure buys: Dune, Serenity, King Kong, Waterworld, Bourne Supremacy, Corpse Bride
Maybe: Space Cowboys, Van Helsing
Need to let my breathing get back to normal before I buy eveything out there.
Phil
11-09-06 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoStar
Whats the 1000$ figure from news corp thing? Havent heard that one.
11-09-06 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoStar
None of those were Super35. Super35 has a very disticnt look to it. If you can find a major motion picture that shot Super35 and then combined that with HD video I will be absoluly shocked.
I am not even going to continue to argue with this stupid crap. I simply made a statment that corrected Josh2012. It was a simple statment that wasnt rude or harsh by any means. I simply said it was not true and that it was shot 100% digital and then I have to get into a big argument because some people on this board just cannot except when they are wrong. I should have known better and just kept my mouth shut. In the future when I see someone that has made a mistake ill just simply ignore it to save myself from this redundant explaining.
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I am not even going to continue to argue with this stupid crap. I simply made a statment that corrected Josh2012. It was a simple statment that wasnt rude or harsh by any means. I simply said it was not true and that it was shot 100% digital and then I have to get into a big argument because some people on this board just cannot except when they are wrong. I should have known better and just kept my mouth shut. In the future when I see someone that has made a mistake ill just simply ignore it to save myself from this redundant explaining.
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11-09-06 | 04:33 PM
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From: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
From AVS:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2&page=2&pp=30
Originally Posted by Robert George
Since I added to the rumors and speculation, I'll add that the latest rumor and speculation I have is that Lionsgate seems to be backing away from HD DVD for the moment. I say "seems" because work that was to have started to get HD DVD discs out by Christmas or the first part of January does not appear to be moving forward.
11-09-06 | 04:43 PM
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Phil
Lead me to the trough
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11-09-06 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
As Adam showed you, the film was not shot 100% digital. In fact, 4% was shot on film as per the quote. And yet, it is "some people on this board who can't accept they are wrong". Do you consider yourself one of those people?
This will be my last post to you on these forums. This is my favorite place to come and I refuse to be dragged into the numerous and pointless debates with you. You are quite simply the most annoying person I have ever come across on a public forum and to lower myself to that standard of debate is quite simply beneath me. Every single person on these boards knows how one sided and biased your comments and point of view is, its absoultly staggering that you continue to be the only one not to.
As for the Miami Vice debate, like I said I have read at least 10 articles off the top of my head that I can think of on the making of this film as I have absoulty read every single piece on digital that I could get my hands on for the last like 6 months. There wasnt a single article that said anything about particluar special effects scenes using regular film and every one pointed out how they exclusively used HD digital to get the look they wanted for this film including the article I linked before from HiDef Magazine. With that being said, if they did happen to shoot a couple of scenes in regular film then I will go ahead and do something that you have never done and admit I was wrong.
LET ME SAY IT AGAIN IN BOLD FOR YOU IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, I WILL DO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DONE AND ADMIT I WAS WRONG.
I only go by what I read and I read the most respected cinematographer and still camera magazines that I one can buy. In total I subscribe to over 25 magazines on film and cameras and I read every single one of them cover to cover. Not a single magazine article on Miami Vice that I read, and I read alot of them, said anything about special effects scenes or anything regarding regular film being shot and stated again and again how it was shot all digital.
I question the validity of that quote by adam as again this is the first I have heard anything about it and I have read extensivly about this movie being made but until I can confirm or deny that quote I will admit I was wrong, again something your just not capable of doing.
Your initlal stament was still 100% wrong and what I was trying to explain is still 100% right. The grain or noise as you would put it is from the cameras used, not from it being Super35.
And that is the end of that, and the end of responding to you, Bye Bye!!
Oh and as a reply to the question you stated above, the awnser to that would be of course no and I just demonstrated that above!
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11-09-06 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
One thing I forgot to mention, the guy told me the Matrix collection is coming out next year.
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11-09-06 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
I didn't ask. I'll ask tomorrow about any other studios joining the fray.
So LionsGate is backing away? So does that mean that the tsd guy from AVS is full of it? Is Disney backing away too?
11-09-06 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
I didn't ask. I'll ask tomorrow about any other studios joining the fray.
11-09-06 | 10:36 PM
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With just over over a week to go before the Blu-ray enabled PlayStation 3 finally hits stores in the U.S. and Japan, the VP in charge of the game console is talking about the rocky road to launch, and -- in particular -- those pesky blue laser diodes.
In a wide ranging interview with game industry site Next Generation, Sony exec Jack Tretton said this about the blue laser diode, which has been blamed for the game console's most recent round of delays and reduced initial shipment estimates:
"I’m like everybody else. I’m saying 'come on! Just build 'em, man! What's so complicated?' But think about what that blue laser diode has to do. It has to read audio CDs, standard DVDs, Blu-ray DVDs, PlayStation 1 games, PlayStation 2 games, and PlayStation 3 games. Six completely different formats that have nothing to do with each other and you're going to have one device that’s going to read all those.
That’s a tremendous concept. But when you turn to the engineers and say 'go build that for me,' they ask 'are you crazy?' But they’ve managed to pull it off. We've got the blue laser diode's yield now. Okay, it's not necessarily where we'd like to be but it will get exponentially healthier as we go forward."
Tretton says that production of the much in demand diode is increasing by the day -- good news not only for the legions of gamers hoping to get their hands on a PS3 this holiday season, but also for the manufacturers of stand alone Blu-ray players, which have seen a series of recent delays, also said to be caused by the shortage of diodes.
In a wide ranging interview with game industry site Next Generation, Sony exec Jack Tretton said this about the blue laser diode, which has been blamed for the game console's most recent round of delays and reduced initial shipment estimates:
"I’m like everybody else. I’m saying 'come on! Just build 'em, man! What's so complicated?' But think about what that blue laser diode has to do. It has to read audio CDs, standard DVDs, Blu-ray DVDs, PlayStation 1 games, PlayStation 2 games, and PlayStation 3 games. Six completely different formats that have nothing to do with each other and you're going to have one device that’s going to read all those.
That’s a tremendous concept. But when you turn to the engineers and say 'go build that for me,' they ask 'are you crazy?' But they’ve managed to pull it off. We've got the blue laser diode's yield now. Okay, it's not necessarily where we'd like to be but it will get exponentially healthier as we go forward."
Tretton says that production of the much in demand diode is increasing by the day -- good news not only for the legions of gamers hoping to get their hands on a PS3 this holiday season, but also for the manufacturers of stand alone Blu-ray players, which have seen a series of recent delays, also said to be caused by the shortage of diodes.
11-10-06 | 06:41 AM
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Yet another moron VP. DVDs and CDs are not read by the blue laser, to my knowlege. Isn't there a second red laser in there? Also, PS1 games and CDs are the same identical thing as far as the "diode" is concerned as are DVDs and most PS2 games.
Again they try to deflect their mistake. There would be waaaay more PS3s if not for the insistence to cram BD into the machine. There would also be more blue diodes going into players that are 100% certain to sell BD movie software. It is the stubborness to make PS3=BD that is causing problems, not the "complexity" of reading DVDs. Give me a break.
Again they try to deflect their mistake. There would be waaaay more PS3s if not for the insistence to cram BD into the machine. There would also be more blue diodes going into players that are 100% certain to sell BD movie software. It is the stubborness to make PS3=BD that is causing problems, not the "complexity" of reading DVDs. Give me a break.
11-10-06 | 12:20 PM
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You know, in that whole film vs digital debate, one thing seems to be missed. Most theaters are still film. And when digital gets transferred to film, grain appears. And it is the worst possible "natural" artifact IMO, digital noise with grain added. Worse than grain with digital noise added. This can easily confuse watchers on the issue of what artifacts they are seeing.
11-10-06 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoStar
This will be my last post to you on these forums. This is my favorite place to come and I refuse to be dragged into the numerous and pointless debates with you. You are quite simply the most annoying person I have ever come across on a public forum and to lower myself to that standard of debate is quite simply beneath me. Every single person on these boards knows how one sided and biased your comments and point of view is, its absoultly staggering that you continue to be the only one not to.
As for the Miami Vice debate, like I said I have read at least 10 articles off the top of my head that I can think of on the making of this film as I have absoulty read every single piece on digital that I could get my hands on for the last like 6 months. There wasnt a single article that said anything about particluar special effects scenes using regular film and every one pointed out how they exclusively used HD digital to get the look they wanted for this film including the article I linked before from HiDef Magazine. With that being said, if they did happen to shoot a couple of scenes in regular film then I will go ahead and do something that you have never done and admit I was wrong.
LET ME SAY IT AGAIN IN BOLD FOR YOU IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, I WILL DO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DONE AND ADMIT I WAS WRONG.
I only go by what I read and I read the most respected cinematographer and still camera magazines that I one can buy. In total I subscribe to over 25 magazines on film and cameras and I read every single one of them cover to cover. Not a single magazine article on Miami Vice that I read, and I read alot of them, said anything about special effects scenes or anything regarding regular film being shot and stated again and again how it was shot all digital.
I question the validity of that quote by adam as again this is the first I have heard anything about it and I have read extensivly about this movie being made but until I can confirm or deny that quote I will admit I was wrong, again something your just not capable of doing.
Your initlal stament was still 100% wrong and what I was trying to explain is still 100% right. The grain or noise as you would put it is from the cameras used, not from it being Super35.
And that is the end of that, and the end of responding to you, Bye Bye!!
Oh and as a reply to the question you stated above, the awnser to that would be of course no and I just demonstrated that above!
PS..
As for the Miami Vice debate, like I said I have read at least 10 articles off the top of my head that I can think of on the making of this film as I have absoulty read every single piece on digital that I could get my hands on for the last like 6 months. There wasnt a single article that said anything about particluar special effects scenes using regular film and every one pointed out how they exclusively used HD digital to get the look they wanted for this film including the article I linked before from HiDef Magazine. With that being said, if they did happen to shoot a couple of scenes in regular film then I will go ahead and do something that you have never done and admit I was wrong.
LET ME SAY IT AGAIN IN BOLD FOR YOU IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, I WILL DO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DONE AND ADMIT I WAS WRONG.
I only go by what I read and I read the most respected cinematographer and still camera magazines that I one can buy. In total I subscribe to over 25 magazines on film and cameras and I read every single one of them cover to cover. Not a single magazine article on Miami Vice that I read, and I read alot of them, said anything about special effects scenes or anything regarding regular film being shot and stated again and again how it was shot all digital.
I question the validity of that quote by adam as again this is the first I have heard anything about it and I have read extensivly about this movie being made but until I can confirm or deny that quote I will admit I was wrong, again something your just not capable of doing.
Your initlal stament was still 100% wrong and what I was trying to explain is still 100% right. The grain or noise as you would put it is from the cameras used, not from it being Super35.
And that is the end of that, and the end of responding to you, Bye Bye!!
Oh and as a reply to the question you stated above, the awnser to that would be of course no and I just demonstrated that above!
PS..
11-10-06 | 05:33 PM
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Vivid selects Blu-ray:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/hirsch111006.htm
Personally, I don't think this will change anything as far as the war is concerned. The Internet will continue to be the biggest distributor of pr0n. But its not a bad card to have in your hand.
TVPredictions: So, will your first HDTV DVD be Blu-ray or HD-DVD and when will it be released?
Steve Hirsch: We will be releasing our first high-def DVD in the first quarter of 2007. We're working on it now. It will be a Blu-ray DVD and it will have multiple angles. You will have the option of watching two different angles of a scene.
Steve Hirsch: We will be releasing our first high-def DVD in the first quarter of 2007. We're working on it now. It will be a Blu-ray DVD and it will have multiple angles. You will have the option of watching two different angles of a scene.
Personally, I don't think this will change anything as far as the war is concerned. The Internet will continue to be the biggest distributor of pr0n. But its not a bad card to have in your hand.
11-10-06 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
The Internet will continue to be the biggest distributor of pr0n. But its not a bad card to have in your hand.
TVP: Will you release the title in HD-DVD later in the year?
SH: As of now, it will just be Blu-ray. But that's not to say we won't release it in HD-DVD later.
TVP: But you're not backing Blu-ray over HD-DVD at this point or picking a winner in the format war?
SH: No. Blu-ray seems to have the momentum. But we're not in the business of picking winners. We will produce content for all formats. It's important that we do so. We have shot more than 40 films in high-def and have been shooting in HD for more than a year.
TVP: Do you think there needs to be a single format before the high-def DVD players take off? Many consumers are concerned that they will pick the wrong format.
SH: New technology takes time to get penetration into people's homes. The studios are getting behind it (high-def DVDs) so it will get there. Maybe there will need to be just one format but we will offer content for both.