HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray Disc vs. Everything Else: Round 5
11-10-06 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cow
Not much of a card:
TVP: Will you release the title in HD-DVD later in the year?
SH: As of now, it will just be Blu-ray. But that's not to say we won't release it in HD-DVD later.
TVP: But you're not backing Blu-ray over HD-DVD at this point or picking a winner in the format war?
SH: No. Blu-ray seems to have the momentum. But we're not in the business of picking winners. We will produce content for all formats. It's important that we do so. We have shot more than 40 films in high-def and have been shooting in HD for more than a year.
TVP: Do you think there needs to be a single format before the high-def DVD players take off? Many consumers are concerned that they will pick the wrong format.
SH: New technology takes time to get penetration into people's homes. The studios are getting behind it (high-def DVDs) so it will get there. Maybe there will need to be just one format but we will offer content for both.
TVP: Will you release the title in HD-DVD later in the year?
SH: As of now, it will just be Blu-ray. But that's not to say we won't release it in HD-DVD later.
TVP: But you're not backing Blu-ray over HD-DVD at this point or picking a winner in the format war?
SH: No. Blu-ray seems to have the momentum. But we're not in the business of picking winners. We will produce content for all formats. It's important that we do so. We have shot more than 40 films in high-def and have been shooting in HD for more than a year.
TVP: Do you think there needs to be a single format before the high-def DVD players take off? Many consumers are concerned that they will pick the wrong format.
SH: New technology takes time to get penetration into people's homes. The studios are getting behind it (high-def DVDs) so it will get there. Maybe there will need to be just one format but we will offer content for both.
You should try to get a job for a politician with that spin-minded brain of yours.
11-10-06 | 07:13 PM
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From: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Shock of shocks. He cherry picked that article to give it a pro-BD spin. Josh, it was ALREADY pro-BD. You didn't have to exaggerate. That is why so few respect your opinion.
You should try to get a job for a politician with that spin-minded brain of yours.
You should try to get a job for a politician with that spin-minded brain of yours.
11-10-06 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
They're not going to answer it.
Basically the story is this: Everything you heard about LG and Disney releasing on HD-DVD is total bullshit. All the studios are going to see what happens this Holiday to commit to a format full-force. If BD does unexpectedly well because of PS3, then don’t look for LG or Disney to switch. If HD-DVD does really well, then you will see an announcement, but it’s not going to be this year at the very least.
That’s why all the reports point to January.
So at this point no one is changing sides.
11-10-06 | 07:55 PM
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That makes sense. Why would an exclusive BD studio make a commitment to switch before the PS3 hits? It's better to see what happens. Fox's aggressive list of upcoming titles shows me they are firmly behind BD. The next 2 months aren't going to decide the war, but I guess it will show us if any studios are second guessing their exclusive support. When all is said and done, I expect the same number of studios who support their respective formats will remain unchanged.
11-10-06 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
Well guess what, here's the answer:
Basically the story is this: Everything you heard about LG and Disney releasing on HD-DVD is total bullshit. All the studios are going to see what happens this Holiday to commit to a format full-force. If BD does unexpectedly well because of PS3, then don’t look for LG or Disney to switch. If HD-DVD does really well, then you will see an announcement, but it’s not going to be this year at the very least.
That’s why all the reports point to January.
So at this point no one is changing sides.
Basically the story is this: Everything you heard about LG and Disney releasing on HD-DVD is total bullshit. All the studios are going to see what happens this Holiday to commit to a format full-force. If BD does unexpectedly well because of PS3, then don’t look for LG or Disney to switch. If HD-DVD does really well, then you will see an announcement, but it’s not going to be this year at the very least.
That’s why all the reports point to January.
So at this point no one is changing sides.
No one said they're changing sides right now.
11-10-06 | 08:10 PM
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I dont know what other people on here expected but as for me I never expected any of the pro BD studios to switch to HD-DVD before the PS3 came out and had its chance to do what its supposed to do. In that reagard I totally expect it to fail as a big launching pad for BD so in the end I fully expect these studios to support HD-DVD but I dont expect for it to happen until the PS3 has failed at giving BD the big push that its expected to give.
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11-10-06 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoStar
I dont know what other people on here expected but as for me I never expected any of the pro BD studios to switch to HD-DVD before the PS3 came out and had its chance to do what its supposed to do. In that reagard I totally expect it to fail as a big launching pad for BD so in the end I fully expect these studios to support HD-DVD but I dont expect for it to happen until the PS3 has failed at giving BD the big push that its expected to give.
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Still waiting on titles here, dual format player would be fine for me.
Edit: the failure is the timing and lack of players. BD should own, they are just late.
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11-10-06 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cow
I will be the other people waiting... BD has more to offer (sure they aren't there yet, but their end game is better). And they are just now starting to grow, actually both are starting to grow.
Still waiting on titles here, dual format player would be fine for me.
Edit: the failure is the timing and lack of players. BD should own, they are just late.
Still waiting on titles here, dual format player would be fine for me.
Edit: the failure is the timing and lack of players. BD should own, they are just late.
I just dont see it. I dont see Sony's end game being better as they havent even shown that they can compete with HD-DVD's consistance. So it has a little bit more space. As we have seen that is space that isnt impotant when using the proper codecs and you can always go to a 2nd disc if you must which again I dont consider a negative and neither do the majority of people buying SD DVD's. Everything that has come out of the BD camp about them being better has so far been proven absolutly wrong and unimportant. You act like HD-DVD has maxed out with where it is right now and that just isnt true but even if it were wouldnt be a bad thing as 99% of what they have released has been spectacular.
I am done listening to what is coming and what may be. I have been listening to that kind of talk for way too long from Sony and it made me end up losing money becaue of it. I bought into thier false advertising and I ate up all of thier PR BS. None of it ended up being true. I am now living in the here and now and not living for what may one day come true. HD-DVD has been faithful to what they have advertised and for that thay have won me over as a loyal customer. The exact opposite is true for Sony which is why I sold my BD player and gave up on BD.
The day Sony starts putting out movies that are better than HD-DVD will be the day I believe it. That goes for anything else ragarding what BD is capable of doing and what it will supposedly be doing. When I see it ill believe it. Till then its just more promises by a company that has completly failed to live up to its promises so far.
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11-10-06 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoStar
As we have seen that is space that [isn't important] when using the proper codecs and you can always go to a 2nd disc if you must which again I [don't] consider a negative and neither do the majority of people buying SD DVD's.
Also, I imagine that if you asked people, "would you prefer to have all the features of a 2-disc edition on one super-capacity disc," the majority would say yes.
However, on the flip side, if one asked, "which would you prefer: a one-disc version of a movie or a two-disc edition of a movie," leaving out that both editions contain the same content, I imagine a lot would pick the two-disc because of the perceived value.
11-10-06 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Clearly, it's not bullshit.
No one said they're changing sides right now.
No one said they're changing sides right now.
It all depends on the holiday season. They won't commit to either side or both until that's over.
11-10-06 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
At this point it is bullshit. People are saying it like it's set in stone when it isn't.
It all depends on the holiday season. They won't commit to either side or both until that's over.
It all depends on the holiday season. They won't commit to either side or both until that's over.
i didn't see anything official. no press release.
11-10-06 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I just RSVPed for the LA HD DVD tour bus at the Grove on Tuesday. Anyone else here going to attend?
11-10-06 | 11:25 PM
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From: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
PS3 a good BD player? 
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/743/743899p1.html
First off, the image quality is fantastic. We don't have a standalone player in the office at the moment so we can't do a side-by-side sampling with a separate player, but on its own we're quite impressed. Playback is also very fast - it only takes a few seconds to first load up a disc, and skipping through chapters and the like is at least as fast as a DVD. Good stuff.
11-10-06 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
And it will take people actually using it as one.
11-10-06 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Those are some lucky bastards getting the PS3.
11-10-06 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
And it will take joshd not being the poster of it.
I'd more likely wonder about it because they had nothing else to compare it to, including HD-DVD. (They mentioned that a cool thing about BD was that the menu will come up while the movie is playing. If they were familiar with HD-DVD, they wouldn't mention this as if it was only with BD.) Also, I'm still a bit skeptical of a gaming-oriented site like IGN being an authority on video.
11-11-06 | 12:43 AM
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11-11-06 | 12:49 AM
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“Sony needs PlayStation 3 to save the company,” said Masashi Morita, a game and Internet industry analyst at Okasan Securities in Tokyo. “A lot depends on this one product.”
But before it can rescue Sony, PlayStation has to recoup its own development costs. The games division lost $369 million in the most recent quarter, which ended in September, because of the new console’s development costs and marketing preparations, the company said.
Sony will not disclose the total cost of creating the PlayStation 3, which has been in development for six years. But analysts say the sum reaches into the billions of dollars. Sony has revealed that it spent $2 billion on one major component alone, the high-speed Cell microprocessor, co-developed with I.B.M. and Toshiba.
With such vast investments, analysts estimate Sony will have to sell 30 million to 50 million units just to break even. To be the sort of mega-hit that Sony needs, analysts say the new game console will at the minimum have to outdo its predecessor, PlayStation 2, which has sold 106 million units since 2000.
But before it can rescue Sony, PlayStation has to recoup its own development costs. The games division lost $369 million in the most recent quarter, which ended in September, because of the new console’s development costs and marketing preparations, the company said.
Sony will not disclose the total cost of creating the PlayStation 3, which has been in development for six years. But analysts say the sum reaches into the billions of dollars. Sony has revealed that it spent $2 billion on one major component alone, the high-speed Cell microprocessor, co-developed with I.B.M. and Toshiba.
With such vast investments, analysts estimate Sony will have to sell 30 million to 50 million units just to break even. To be the sort of mega-hit that Sony needs, analysts say the new game console will at the minimum have to outdo its predecessor, PlayStation 2, which has sold 106 million units since 2000.
11-11-06 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Drexl
I don't see why that should really matter. If he was giving his personal impressions it would be different, but it's a link to someone else's impressions.
I'd more likely wonder about it because they had nothing else to compare it to, including HD-DVD. (They mentioned that a cool thing about BD was that the menu will come up while the movie is playing. If they were familiar with HD-DVD, they wouldn't mention this as if it was only with BD.) Also, I'm still a bit skeptical of a gaming-oriented site like IGN being an authority on video.
I'd more likely wonder about it because they had nothing else to compare it to, including HD-DVD. (They mentioned that a cool thing about BD was that the menu will come up while the movie is playing. If they were familiar with HD-DVD, they wouldn't mention this as if it was only with BD.) Also, I'm still a bit skeptical of a gaming-oriented site like IGN being an authority on video.