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Old 11-08-06 | 03:13 PM
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Are the 50GB disks working yet?

Yes*

* but 98% of BD releases are BD25

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Old 11-08-06 | 03:31 PM
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Yes*

* but 98% of BD releases are BD25
and will stay that way, methinks
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Old 11-08-06 | 04:50 PM
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Obviously that percentage will increase when more are replicated. But in the future it still doesn't mean a 50 gig disc is required for every release and it certainly isn't a guarantee they'll even use the space (hello Warner?).

For now, 50gig will likely be reserved for the new high profile titles. It's more likely the BD only studios will use the 50 gig disc more often than Warner and Paramount, even though they are using one for World Trade Center. It'll be interesting if any reviews give the edge for Blu-ray when they review WTC. So we'll see if a MPEG-2 codec on a 50 gig title can produce a better image than a VC-1 codec on a 30 gig title. I'm thinking they will still look nearly identical.
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Old 11-08-06 | 05:16 PM
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Looks like HD-DVD/Toshiba is making a visit to Paramount on Thursday and Friday. I'll let you know what they show us.
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Old 11-08-06 | 05:47 PM
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Ask your company why they insist on using MPEG2 on Blu-ray when they already use VC-1 for HD DVD.
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Old 11-08-06 | 05:57 PM
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Ask your company why they insist on using MPEG2 on Blu-ray when they already use VC-1 for HD DVD.
Because Sony's handling the mastering of Paramount's Blu-ray discs, from what I understand.
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Old 11-08-06 | 06:15 PM
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Because Sony's handling the mastering of Paramount's Blu-ray discs, from what I understand.
This is correct.
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Old 11-08-06 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
Looks like HD-DVD/Toshiba is making a visit to Paramount on Thursday and Friday. I'll let you know what they show us.
Thanks.

And is it wishful thinking to hope that you're going to show *them* the Star Trek: Ultimate Collection?
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Old 11-08-06 | 06:23 PM
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If anyone wants to go I will bring someone in for Thursday and Friday.
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Old 11-08-06 | 07:06 PM
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Ask your company why they insist on using MPEG2 on Blu-ray when they already use VC-1 for HD DVD.
What do you care? you own both.
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Old 11-09-06 | 11:28 AM
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PS3 will put 'focus' on Blu-ray, News Corp. exec says

The coming launch of Sony Computer Entertainment’s PlayStation 3 game console will put more focus on the Blu-ray disc format, but don’t expect a resolution to “the format wars” over high-definition video discs, said Peter Chernin, the president and chief operating officer of News Corp.

“I’ve been talking to all of the electronics manufacturers on both sides of the format wars,” Chernin said. “I don’t think there’s likely to be a quick resolution, I think the resolution, if it comes, is likely to be driven by the marketplace.” His comments came Thursday during a conference call with reporters and analysts.

News Corp., which owns 20th Century Fox, has so far only released movies on Blu-ray, which counts Sony and Samsung Electronics among its backers. The company has not announced plans to release films on HD-DVD, the competing format, which is backed by Toshiba Corp. and many others.

While HD-DVD was the first format to hit the market with players and content, these are still early days, Chernin said. “Right now you have a tiny, tiny number of players out there at very high prices,” he said. “Most of the HD-DVD players are at the $1,000 range and you’re going to see a huge number of Blu-ray players entering the marketplace through PlayStation 3.”

The release of PlayStation 3, set to happen in Japan on Nov. 11 and the U.S., Hong Kong, and Taiwan on Nov. 17, will put “some focus” on Blu-ray, Chernin said. “The marketplace will start getting interesting as PlayStation 3 starts hitting the marketplace,” he said, adding that a negotiated settlement between backers of the competing format is not likely to happen.

“Unification, if it comes, is going to be driven by the marketplace,” Chernin said.
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Old 11-09-06 | 11:33 AM
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“Most of the HD-DVD players are at the $1,000 range..."

Wow, just wow.
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Old 11-09-06 | 11:40 AM
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“Unification, if it comes, is going to be driven by the marketplace,” Chernin said.
I'll see you in a few months, Mr Chernin.

Very interesting that these BD reps are still tossing out blatant LIES and yet, at the same time, leaving room to switch to HD DVD.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:09 PM
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Was this the exec which was rumored to have been educated at the HD DVD promo event?
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:11 PM
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Was this the exec which was rumored to have been educated at the HD DVD promo event?
Wow. You seriously pulled that one out of your ass, didn't you? Because if he's mis-informed, he surely got it from HD DVD's people, right?
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Drexl
“Most of the HD-DVD players are at the $1,000 range..."

Wow, just wow.
Yeah, either he meant Blu-Ray, is horribly misinformed, or was lying through his ass.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Wow. You seriously pulled that one out of your ass, didn't you? Because if he's mis-informed, he surely got it from HD DVD's people, right?
How many News Corp execs are focused on and would answer questions about Blu-ray/HD DVD?
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
How many News Corp execs are focused on and would answer questions about Blu-ray/HD DVD?
I don't know? how many? Edumacate me.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Drexl
“Most of the HD-DVD players are at the $1,000 range..."

Wow, just wow.

Yeah... I sent an email to the editors about that.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
I don't know? how many? Edumacate me.
I assumed you knew. I was asking a question on whether it was the same guy. You attacked that statement, so I assumed you knew for a fact that it could have been any one of a number of News Corp execs which follow HD discs. Why else would you attack a question unless it was well known information?
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
How many News Corp execs are focused on and would answer questions about Blu-ray/HD DVD?
According to the article, at least one.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
I assumed you knew. I was asking a question on whether it was the same guy. You attacked that statement, so I assumed you knew for a fact that it could have been any one of a number of News Corp execs which follow HD discs. Why else would you attack a question unless it was well known information?
Because I honestly thought you were going to be a smart-ass as usual. Sorry.
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Old 11-09-06 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Drexl
“Most of the HD-DVD players are at the $1,000 range..."

Wow, just wow.
It's amazing how they don't have someone to "proof-read" things that come out of their mouths.
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Old 11-09-06 | 01:46 PM
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We got copies of Tony Hawk's Project 8 for PS3 at work yesterday. They're in BD cases, but the cases are clear instead of blue. They're a pretty big eyesore. Of course, it didn't help that Tony Hawk's ugly mug is on it, but there you go.
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Old 11-09-06 | 02:08 PM
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Because I honestly thought you were going to be a smart-ass as usual. Sorry.
I'm pretty sure you know by now that stuff like this isn't cool.
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