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Old 09-25-06 | 03:21 PM
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That may be the most worthwhile, informative article I've ever seen from the Strib. On any topic. They're usually painful to read. (so I don't often)
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Wow, a tech article that gets the facts right.
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Old 09-25-06 | 07:50 PM
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According to this AVS poster, HD DVD discs are outselling BD by an 11 to 1 margin (sorry if it's already been posted here)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=722307&page=3
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Old 09-25-06 | 08:46 PM
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Tokyo Drift Review up at HDdigest Can't wait to check out the HDi features.
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Old 09-25-06 | 08:57 PM
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I just placed my order at Amazon. Can't wait to check out the HD features on this one. Wasn't a great price even with the 10% discount, but I don't care. The soundtrack should also be superb.
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Old 09-25-06 | 11:53 PM
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Another piece of news.

Supposedly, some of the Warner titles have actually sold throught their initial pressing of 25,000 copies (at least sold to retail stores).
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Tokyo Drift Review up at HDdigest Can't wait to check out the HDi features.
The HDi features sound great...but this is still The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift. It makes me very happy about upcoming HDi features, though.
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Old 09-26-06 | 06:22 AM
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I can't wait for my car porn to arrive after glancing at that article. Now to decide if I need to upgrade 2 Fast 2 Furious or let it remain in only SD. I hope Fast and Furious gets an excellent transfer as well.
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Old 09-26-06 | 12:24 PM
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Did anyone else notice in the link DthRdrX posted in the Releases thread that the BD tagline has changed from "Beyond High Definition" to "Experience High Definition"?
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Old 09-26-06 | 12:33 PM
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Did anyone else notice in the link DthRdrX posted in the Releases thread that the BD tagline has changed from "Beyond High Definition" to "Experience High Definition"?
Wow, that is interesting....I wonder if they were confusing people and they thought there was something higher then high definition.

Maybe Robert Wilonsky will take note.
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Old 09-26-06 | 12:36 PM
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Maybe, given the fact that any normal person (as discussed here recently) would consider that to mean "better resolution than HD", the lawyers trotted by the marketing dept.

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Old 09-26-06 | 12:44 PM
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Did anyone else notice in the link DthRdrX posted in the Releases thread that the BD tagline has changed from "Beyond High Definition" to "Experience High Definition"?
"Experience High Definition" is an earlier tagline of the format, and has been used by Sony on the covers of BDs since the first releases (Fifth Element, Underworld). "Beyond High Definition" has appeared on the covers of BDs from Lionsgate and Disney, but never by Sony. Paramount apparantly uses the tagline "Paramount High Defintion" on their covers, while Warner doesn't bother with anything other than the BD logo on the case.
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Old 09-26-06 | 12:54 PM
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Did anyone else notice in the link DthRdrX posted in the Releases thread that the BD tagline has changed from "Beyond High Definition" to "Experience High Definition"?
Well shit...now what are we going to argue about?

They're lowering expectations. That can't be a bad thing.
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Old 09-26-06 | 01:27 PM
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Did anyone else notice in the link DthRdrX posted in the Releases thread that the BD tagline has changed from "Beyond High Definition" to "Experience High Definition"?
I think they're going for a "Theme Park Apporach" now.
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Old 09-26-06 | 01:52 PM
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"Experience High Definition" is an earlier tagline of the format, and has been used by Sony on the covers of BDs since the first releases (Fifth Element, Underworld). "Beyond High Definition" has appeared on the covers of BDs from Lionsgate and Disney, but never by Sony.

Actually, "Beyond High Definition" is a trademarked phrase that can only be used on Blu-ray discs. The BDA owns the trademark since July 13, 2006.

"Experience High Definition" is not trademarked and therefore anyone can use it anywhere they want.

It is clear that the BDA intended to use "Beyond High Definition" since they bothered to have it trademarked. Who knows why they fell back to "Experience High Definition"...
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Was just reading an email from the HD DVD petition guy and it states that according to Videoscape, HD DVD is outselling Blu-Ray by a margin of 11 to 1. I'll copy and past something from the email that has really peaked my interest:

"If we stay busy for the next month or two, perhaps we may even see an
announcement by a studio or two at CES in January. Now wouldn't that be a
nice belated Christmas present!
My friends, keep the faith. I've gotten some good news on one studio already
(can't say yet) and I know there'll be more to come.
"

Anyone got any idea who it might be?
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Old 09-26-06 | 01:58 PM
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Anyone got any idea who it might be?
Id guess Lionsgate, but it possibly might be Sony
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:10 PM
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Actually, "Beyond High Definition" is a trademarked phrase that can only be used on Blu-ray discs. The BDA owns the trademark since July 13, 2006.

"Experience High Definition" is not trademarked and therefore anyone can use it anywhere they want.
It looks like I was wrong that "Experience High Definition" was an offical BD tagline. However, Sony has been using it on all their BD releases since the first ones. Considering that the releases shown on the DVDTimes link are Sony releases, it's just more of the same from Sony instead of reflecting any actual change on the part of the BDA.
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:22 PM
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This has already been discussed. It's Lion's Gate.

Disney is waiting to see how Q4 goes.
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:24 PM
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It's Lion's Gate.

Cool
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:25 PM
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Lionsgate has made no announcement specifying any change in policy. Though, their rumored switch to VC-1 (and delay of titles until next year) does certainly point to that.
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:35 PM
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Lionsgate has made no announcement specifying any change in policy. Though, their rumored switch to VC-1 (and delay of titles until next year) does certainly point to that.
Policy?

It's more like "support."

And trust me...the day they announce it (which will be before the end of the year), I'm sure there will be a thread that stays by the top of this forum for a while.
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Old 09-26-06 | 02:40 PM
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Policy?

It's more like "support."

And trust me...the day they announce it (which will be before the end of the year), I'm sure there will be a thread that stays by the top of this forum for a while.
I already have one of their BD only titles on hd-dvd
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Interesting story: I ran into a co-worker at BB today while buying T3. We started talking about HD DVD and he asked how much players are going for. He was surprised that I had one. He then asked me if I had a 360 to which I replied "no." He then told me he was really excited to get the HD DVD add-on because it will be so cheap.

Never would have suspected him to do it. He's probably in his early to mid 30's and I guess I'm surprised at how many people already know about this stuff.

And just to make Josh happy, i saw two guys looking at plasmas who looked at BD and said it looked "sick." Congrats.
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From: Sydney / Australia !!!
from the land down under .......

Quote Daily Telegraph (Sydney) Connect section :

Panasonice last week unveiled its new range of home theatre products which will combine to provide true HD entertainment at the highest quality resolution available, which is 1920x1080 progressive (1080p).

Part of that range will be one of Australia's first dedicated Blu-ray disc players.. the DMP-BD10, which will be available in October and be priced at $2749

http://panasonic.com.au/products/det...contextID=3511

One wonders who the target market is for dumping a player on the Australian market at this price ???!!!


Granted the original SD DVD players were costly (but never this much !!) - and dropped over time - with increased competition - however - with a price (probably a RRP) of $A2749 Panasonice aren't exactly getting any $$ from me or anyone else I know for a longgggg time !!
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