What about Paramount titles? DD+ on HD DVD better than DD on Blu-ray?

I'm not sure if it is known for a fact, but I believe that Paramount does use a higher encoding for their DD+ than they provide for their DD. Some reviewer have said it sounds identical (indicating the same bitrate), while others have said there is some improvement with the DD+. It is probably best to check out each title, as I don't think there is a consistent bitrate like Warner (640) and Universal (1.5).

Note, there was also an article which said something like 784kbps, but I'm not sure if that is accurate.

Superman Returns on HD-DVD will have a TrueHD soundtrack according to TDB....also, I confirmed it with cj some time back. He said they told him to leave enough room for it.

SO, it will have another benefit over BD. It most likely wont have IME though.

Then post a link. Not saying your lying, but since its coming from you, a link would be nice.

Id like to see where Dolby says that it might sound worse. If your talking about a certain AVS member, then you shouldnt use the whole company name....just like we cant say "Microsoft says" when Amir speaks....they arent the official spokesman for those companies.

I think its still up in the air about the True HD track. High Def Digest didn't mention it in their report about the specs:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news...y,_HD_DVD_/252

It wouldn't make much sense to put it on the HD DVD and not the Blu-ray. If they removed it from the Blu-ray version, they could have fit it on a BD25 instead of the BD50 - if it exists at all.

If an insider posts their companies name, then they do represent their company. That is why TalkStr8t doesn't post his company. Roger is representing Dolby the second he said he worked for them.

This was confirmed AFTER this announcement by TDB and again, I asked the guy who did the compression on it. So, unless something has changed since then, it will have it.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwoc...8.html#reevehd
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...r_Poseidon/292

Why the BD disc doesnt have it? I couldnt tell ya.

Just stopped by a Best Buy that was in a town I never go to as I had to drop off some photographs in the area and checked out thier HD-DVD section. They had the Mission Impossible 3 pack mispriced like they were regular DVD's. I told the guy working in the movie area about them trying to be a honest person. He thanked me and said that since I was kind enough to tell him about the misprice that he would sell me one at that price if I wanted it. I also picked up the Need For Speed Carbon XBox 360 game and pulled out a 10% off coupon and they applied that to the Mission Impossible set as well. So I ended up getting it for 37 bucks. My best HD-DVD deal yet!

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I disagree....it does not mean they are speaking their company views/policies when they post on AVS. If you think im wrong, then ask them. Its their own views.

Well, again, this is your spin.

Whenever we post that Amir says something, we say "Amir said blah blah blah"....you try and make it sound like its Dolby's position that Dolby Digital + could potentially sound worse than Dolby Digital.

Its all in the language. You spin things and we catch you on it.

If the Blu-ray disc doesn't have it, it would be a dumb move on Warner's part (especially with PS3 supporting it, and being out for a few weeks at that point). I fully expect to see it on there as well, of course will no official press release, we just have to wait and see.

If you want to know how the war is going, you ask the boys in the trenches. You don't ask the PR department.

I have to say that I was all against the Combo discs when they first started to come out due to the increased price but I have come to absolutly love them. I guess I just didnt realize how many DVD's I watch outside of my main entertainment room. I watch DVD's almost contantly when I am in the darkroom developing film and prints and I am able to sell my SD version of the films that come out in the Combo format. The ones that arent Combo I am forced to keep my SD version if I want to be able to watch them in the darkroom or when I travel. That is definitly worth the extra 4-5 bucks IMO. I understand that I am probably n the minority here but there absolutly is ause for these things. What they should do is make it so its the buyers choice and make both a Combo disc and a non Combo disc.

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Well, as of right now, it isnt confirmed for Bluray....so any speculating is just that....speculation.

No Bluray titles have had TrueHD yet right? So, there could still be an outstanding licensing issue or something....we dont know.

Since Roger speaks for Dolby, why dont you ask him?

But, you should say your sources then and not make it sound like its the companies position....again, employees may represent their companies, but that doesnt mean that they speak for them globally.

Im sure Roger has his own opinions. That doesnt mean that Dolby shares those officially.

I completly agree with you. Just because somebody works for a particular company does not mean that every time they post on AVS or another internet forum that they are in fact speaking for the company or on the companies behalf. That is absolutly a farse.

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Ditto that.

I know several people at Microsoft. They tell me this and that about their application development. That is in no way the official Microsoft stance. Unless the person is writing on behalf of the company (e.g. official company release), anything they say is still nothing more than their opinion.

Now this is DVDtalk's position on this!!

@ RockStrongo. Must be, huh?

how bout them bargains, eh?

guess that's why i need to get a move on that thread.

Your right...im done rambling...sorry, I just couldnt pass it up.

If you don't feel it is official until it comes out on a press release saying so, or actually released, that's fine. But we must change a few things you wrote then.

It is also not confirmed for HD DVD. You are basing this on what Cjplay has said, which isn't official, and by a TDB post, which is also not official. Until it comes out, or they do a press release with the specs, it is not confirmed for HD DVD, and is just speculation.

Legends of Jazz has a TrueHD track, and is currently available for purchase on Blu-ray.

Mods, can you split off this versus conversation to a Superman thread or something? It appears this will be a hot topic until it is released later this month.

Your incorrect. These sites get the official specs from WB. I just added my source as a side note.

Again, see my links above...I posted TDB and highdefdigest.

Yeah, im not sure why we havent seen any TrueHD soundtracks on WB titles yet....but it wouldnt surprise me if the BD version DID have it....and vice versa. But, until its confirmed, then it really doesnt matter.

I know BD will never get Combos, but if I had HD-DVD I would also like the combos (especially for new releases, where there's no chance I already have the SD). It's annoying not to be able to play the discs in other players or on a portable player/computer or do all the other stuff you can do with the SD. It's definitely worth the extra $5 to me. Better than the $15-20 double-dip if I really, really had to have the SD.

I just checked Warner's site. The HD DVD version (called a "Special Edition") does and the Blu-ray version doesn't. What a fucking waste of a BD-50.

MOD NOTE:

This thread has been earmarked for lock/unsticky. We typically do this ~800 posts in a thread. digi has volunteered to start (and manage) a new bargains thread. Once that thread is up and running, we will close this thread. Please take the DD and other spec discussion over to the versus thread. Thank you.

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