It's been posted here several times. It's not a new article. Search for it yourself.

Edit: here...for the LAZY.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=465096

Interesting that you should react this way after demanding links so often from Jimmy.

The article only relates to electronic components and only contains a statement from a Sony official, not from any other BDA company. There is no statement in the link relating to BD player prices or their future behaviour. Oddly enough if components really are in such short supply, and this does have a knock on effect on next gen optical devices, this would impact both formats and force both to remain high end items. Not sure why you'd see this as a Blu-ray issue...

I react that way because of who's asking for it and because it's been brought up here many many times already.
And I'm not sure why you'd think that the Toshiba is even "high end" at this point.

Give me a break. Blu-Ray dead by then. This format war will not be decided this year. It will likely be decided sometime in 2007 when the market is flooded with millions and millions of Playstation 3s. Playstation 3s are more then affordable and have higher price value then any HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player. Nobody even has to release a Blu-Ray player. The Playstation 3 can kill HD-DVD easily.

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you don't disappoint.

Remember, PS3 is a game system.

Its a game system and a Blu-Ray player in one cheap package.

Since when has $500 been cheap for a game console? Oh wait, that's right, never.

And the quality of said player remains to be seen. You have another HALF A YEAR to wait.

And there's the other issue of people who go to buy a DVD player won't see that in the same aisle. And stores won't be pushing it as a BR player...unless they're deciding to put it in along with the other players.

Do think Sony can just dictate formats unilaterally?

I understand BR has broad industry support right now, BUT you sound like Sony can simply decide what format to use and then kill any other standard just by putting it in the PS3. "The future doesn't start until we say it does." kind of Sonyism mentality.

I think it's going to be hard for Sony to overthrow DVD. Like it or not HD DVD is the official successor to DVD. If consumers get the idea that Sony is pushing a proprietary format they may balk. Sony has to try to keep broad support or they're dead.

Yeah cause people are going to pay $500 and $600 and not know why. People are going to ask "Hey whys it so expensive"
"Cause it plays High Definition Blu-Ray movies for cheaper then a stand alone Blu-Ray player"
"That sounds worth it"

At least 80% of Playstation 3 buyers will have HDTVs probably more. If you own a Playstation 3 and an HDTV and you have to the choice between buying it on Blu-Ray or DVD they are likely to pick Blu-Ray.

Playstation 3 is far more then a game console

OH MY GOD WITH THE PERCENTAGES!?!?!?!?

Nice little scenario you've come up with.

Realistically, the customer will be irritated that there's another video format and will want to stick with the format they've already invested in (DVD). They'll just walk away thinking that it's too much money for a console and they don't care that it plays something that's supposed to have better picture quality.

And this is where Sony will screw themselves over. Sony's forgotten that people buy game consoles for gaming... not for movies. The majority won't want to pay extra for something they don't care about, especially if it threatens (in their mind) a format they already own. Sony has put all their eggs in one basket, and for the sake of trying to get BR to become the standard (in a market that'll probably be a niche for a while) they're willing to sacrifice their market share on the PS3. There's a decent possibility that they can lose both the HD format war and the console war.

Blu-Ray does have solid industry support at the moment, but the players and software still aren't on the market. I have to wonder if HD-DVD should start to take off if Warners wouldn't pull or soften support for Blu-Ray.

Looking at the Blu-Ray friendly studios (Fox, Columbia, Disney) they do have a few "killer app"-type software franchises, and quite a few that are unavailable.

Fox -- Alien, Star Wars, X-Men (And Lucas will not release Star Wars to a HD format until there's a clear winner if his attitude toward DVD is any indication)

Columbia -- James Bond, Spider-Man

Disney -- Disney Animation (Considering the way Disney sticks things on moratorium, they will not be releasing anything on any HD format until there's strong market penetration), Miramax (Tarantino, etc)

Warners (HD-DVD friendly) on the other hand, has The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Kubrick, Blade Runner, Batman, etc. And with the parent company holding the format and a decent array of copyrights, they could start putting a lot of these a-list titles on the market on HD-DVD.

And if they can the price down to under $300 for hardware and $20 for software, that's the same threshold level DVD was at when it began to explode around 1999. Ideally, however, I'd say the players should sell for well under $200. This format war will be decided at Target and Wal-Mart.

Once the players are cheap enough, they can discontinue standard DVD players altogether and just start manufacturing HD-DVD players. The old software is not only compatible, but improved on the new players so there's really no need to keep producing players that only play standard DVDs. That's a hell of an incentive for Toshiba to start knocking down the hardware prices.

And just because PS3 will have Blu-Ray does not guarantee success for the Blu-Ray movie software any more than the PSP did for UMD movies.

You would think that Sony would have learned its lessons from Beta, DAT, and minidiscs, wouldn't you?

Out of the top 25 grossing films of all time, Blu-ray has 15 out of 25 exclusives.

HD DVD only has 2 exclusives.

8 of the 25 are from studios who are supporting both formats.

"exclusives" from studios who haven't even given release dates for BD.

So far, Sony is the only one doing that.

This is just my opinion, but i think that number will be SIGNIFICANTLY lower. 80% just seems wayyyy too high.

That number isnt even close

There are a lot of people who are saying that the PS3 is so expensive, but look at this. I think that it puts this price thing in perspective. If adjusted for inflation, there are 6 game consoles that cost more the the 60 gig PS3.

Yep, the PS3 has a chance of doing better than the Neo Geo, CD-i, 3D0 and Saturn.

Note that on the "Relative" chart, all of the consoles at the same level or higher than the PS3 were all bombs, except for the Atari 2600, which at the time was a brand new innovation (playing videogames at home) and was the only choice in town.

The real big time consoles (NES, SNES, Playstation, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube) were all much, much lower on the relative pricing scale.

lol it's probably like 15% or less

Intellivision was not a bomb. Otherwise, that is an interesting point. The PS3 is not in good company. Did you notice that every single Nintendo product has been cheaper than the previous one? Relatively.

I could've sworn Dreamcast and Colecovision came out at higher actual price points than he listed, but I'm not sure.