Storage capacity of a DVD may not be a limiting factor for the XBOX 360 because according to the following article the HD DVD drive for the 360 is for movies only and the 360 games are designed with 720p in mind. It also states that the drive will only be able to output 1080i.

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/002039.html

Keep in mind that the PS3 will use Blu-ray Disc for both games and movies and is suppose to output up to 1080p.

1080p60 on the disc would be a killer app. Too bad neither format has the bandwidth for that. As far as 1080i/1080p24 from either of these formats, I'm not buying that 1080p24 will look any different than 1080i (both on a 1080p display).

If you are talking about displays, I agree. 1080p displays will be hugely important for several years to come.

Thanks, yes that was the idea I was trying to explore. In an ideal world the TV should be capable of displaying all these frame rates, at multiples of themselves if necessary to prevent flicker. Though I'm fairly sure flicker from lower frame rates is only an issue on CRT TVs not on plasma and LCD which seem to be the future of the industry.

After looking at the pricing and actual game release list, I dont see any reason for me to buy a PS3 this year or in 2007.

The only games that im excited about are coming out on the 360 which I already have...

GTA 4
Resident Evil 5
Gears of War
Dead Rising
Splinter Cell Double Agent
Fable
Indiana Jones (could be good)
Star Wars (could be good)

The only game that I kind of want is Metal Gear....I stopped playing it though on after the last release because I didnt care for it. Thats when I sold my PS2.

Also, I wonder if there will be another Knights of the Old Republic exclusive on Xbox?? I loved those 2.

Yes, I meant that if we had TVs capable of 72Hz, they could then make the players capable, too. Forgot to actually type it.

Im also in no rush to get it, although i do want one for sure. I already have a 360 so a lot of games are already covered for me, but all it takes is God Of War 3 in 1080p to make me crumble like a cookie and pay whatever it takes to own it. I also want Blu-Ray ASAP as well, since im about to purchase a 1080p set within the next 2-4 months to replace my 42" hitatchi 720p plasma. So yah, i will definetly be owning a ps3, i am just in no hurry yet to get it immediately, but as stated before, that could change at the drop of a hat.

Yeah, my brother played God of War on the PS2 and loved it, but I had already sold mine so I never played it...I think the ps2 looks shitty on a large display and thats the main reason that I sold mine.

Due to the high price tag of the PS3, im glad that the 360 will have alot of the games I want when Sony used to have them exclusively.

I am not interested in blue ray but I might buy one or two blue ray movies when I get my PS3 if I cant get those same movies on HD-DVD. I am not really interested in using consoles as HD DVD or BR players though and I will buy a HD DVD stand alone when the second gen of players comes out.

I wanted a PS3 but with the high price and the fact that the launch games will probably not be very good since the developers wont have enough time with the final dev kits to have polished launch games, I think I will wait till a game I must own comes out such as Metal Gear 4, God of War 3, Final Fantasy 13 or something else I havent thought of. I have the 360 and will get the Wii so I can hold out for a while on the PS3.

Another nail in the PS3's coffin.

http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/gam...sectionId=1006

Holy shit...I wonder if they will stop ebay also?? This is ridiculous.

This will instantly keep me from buying a PS3 if this is true. I buy games and then sell them when I am done playing them. Ludicrous.

Actually, I think was shot down a while back from Sony.
Don't think that's going to happen.

However (as expected) some XBOX 360 titles are seeing price drops now, and it will definitely hurt Sony to an extent.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6151772.html

The 360 will look appealing to consumers come Christmas time when the console is $200 cheaper, easy to find and offers a range of games that are also cheaper.

Huh. Wonder why they'd be posting the story today then? Maybe their "sources" were misinformed? They are claiming retailers told them that they were told it by Sony themselves.

Also, they contacted Sony on it, who refused to comment. If they have "shot it down" before, you'd think they'd be quick to debunk it here too.

I don't know. Any way you cut it, it's bad press though.

Definately....if its not shot down now, it probably will be....this would be VERY stupid for Sony to do.

They might be floating the idea to see how it would fly. A stupid move in itself.

I'm not sure why the story is making the rounds again, but it definitely is bad press (whether true or not).

An idea like this would piss off a lot of gamers and would turn off so many people from purchasing the PS3. Hard to believe a company would do something this stupid, but we are talking about Sony here so...

Isn't that the same licensing arrangement as all software? I don't see how this makes it so you can't sell your disc, as long as you haven't broken any standard rules, like copying it.

And wouldn't this only apply to Sony's PS3 games? Not 3rd party developers.

If nothing else, history has proved what will happen. Covert sales and piracy. Stupid move from Sony.

This was something different companies have discussed doing (tying the disc to the hardware), but it would never work and no company would dare try it. They can get away with it on digital media, but consumers will never put up with this on disc based software. Sony is not going to do this. For one it would require all PS3s be hooked up to the internet to even work.

I think the debunked story you are thinking of is this one:

http://www.cheap-playstation.com/cat...ystation-news/

...but I think it may be sneaky on Sony's part. They are saying in that article that they will not use any Digital Rights technology to make it impossible to play used discs, as previously rumoured.

What the new alligation states is that they are changing the licensing model of the games - not stoping folks from playing used discs on their PS3s via hardware, but rather changing the licensing of the software so that it's illegal to SELL used games.

A different means to the same end. BOTH stories could be true.

I've got to see more about this story because this sounds like suicide if it was true. Sony couldn't even consider trying this unless they were crazy. They know consumer backlash would be fierce.

This simply can not be true. If it is I would expect IGN or someone to be all over the story.

PS3 second-hand clampdown is "false speculation"

No one claimed that it wasn't going to be playable in other machines. They claimed it would be illegal to re-sell them. I don't see Sony denying that.

Come on did anyone serious think they would use this. The rental industry and the used game industry are big and Sony wouldn't deny them. Sony is greedy but not stupid.

They bring in little-to-no money for Sony, of course.

They do in the third paragraph...

My bad. thanks.

The PS3 is doomed for a large number of reasons. One of which is the Nintendo Wii is now (surprisingly) looking to be a viable contender in the next-gen wars. Not to mention the Xbox 360 is a strong, and much more affordable, console as well.

R.I.P. PS3