View Poll Results: Are you archiving / recording in HDTV?
Yep...I love to re-watch HD stuff
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Nope...Why bother? Or Can't...Or???
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26.67%
I let Twikoff do all the archiving
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6.67%
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Are you archiving / recording in HDTV?
05-11-06 | 09:32 AM
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What's the capacity per disc? I seem to remember the kids on AVS saying they could get around 20 minutes per disc, but if they could squeeze more on there...well, I'd probably regret not getting one of those Sony HDR-HC3 HDV camcorders before going on vacation last week. But I'd definitely start hitting the newsgroups more frequently.
05-11-06 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
What's the capacity per disc? I seem to remember the kids on AVS saying they could get around 20 minutes per disc, but if they could squeeze more on there...well, I'd probably regret not getting one of those Sony HDR-HC3 HDV camcorders before going on vacation last week. But I'd definitely start hitting the newsgroups more frequently.
05-11-06 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mbs
They are VERY different. Copying a DVD requires breaking the CSS, which is explicitly a violation of the DMCA. Archiving HD may be illegal (I'll let others worry about that), but it's clearly a different case from DVD copying, which is explicitly forbidden by law.
05-11-06 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Freud
We are going to have to agree to disagree. I reject the notion that recording HD off of the air is the same as copying a DVD from blockbuster. The DVD contains, in most cases, a variety of content that goes above and beyond the broadcast program. Plus viewing the DVD without a party purchasing or leasing it is illegal. Watching a TV show OTA is free with no legal responsibilites for the viewer. Using a DVD burner to "extend the rental" of a blockbuster DVD is illegal (e.g. watch it two weeks from now and then erase it) but time shifting broadcast is clearly protected. Thus the law treats the original material differently.
Believe it or not the justices in the Grockster case were asked to revisit the Betamax case and address the issue of archiving...they refused to do it in this particular case but said that they were open to looking at this in the future.
Again...archiving is not settled law. Perhaps it will be in the future..for now it is up in the air. All the FCC has to do it shut off the firewire outputs on the DVR's and it is a done deal. Flag everything...that will solve it.
Time will tell...for now I will enjoy my copy of the Masters
Believe it or not the justices in the Grockster case were asked to revisit the Betamax case and address the issue of archiving...they refused to do it in this particular case but said that they were open to looking at this in the future.
Again...archiving is not settled law. Perhaps it will be in the future..for now it is up in the air. All the FCC has to do it shut off the firewire outputs on the DVR's and it is a done deal. Flag everything...that will solve it.
Time will tell...for now I will enjoy my copy of the Masters
I still stand by my claim that archiving an HD movie is an explicit violation of the copyright laws. The user is making an unauthorized copy, and none of the fair use defenses will apply. Indeed, the only possible fair use defense that one could raise in an infringement action is time-shifting. I do recognize that this is a contentious area of law and respect your opinion.
I want to say that I really appreciate this dialogue we have been having. Almost every time this issue comes up, someone inevitably and ignorantly says "uh-uh! Sony v. Universal, moron!" without knowing what the heck he/she is talking about. You clearly know a lot about this subject and I appreciate the good-natured banter
05-11-06 | 02:15 PM
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How do you record TV to your PC? I have a CableCard on my PC monitor actually....forgot about that.
Is there software to do this or something else?
Is there software to do this or something else?
05-12-06 | 09:55 AM
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Most do it from antenna sources since all you need is an HD tuner card and software. If you want to record from HBO or ESPN, you'll need specific hardware that can actually transfer HD with the PC. Not all cable boxes do. None of the sat HD boxes do.
05-12-06 | 12:41 PM
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Recording the raw .ts as given to me by Comcast. Using a firewire cable it's incredibly easy to record anything and nothing is re-encoded.
You should really have a look at the a.b.hdtv newsgroup just about every show/movie aired in hd is there. It'll be years before hd-dvd/blu-ray catches up with all the films that have been posted or archived already.
Recording the raw .ts as given to me by Comcast. Using a firewire cable it's incredibly easy to record anything and nothing is re-encoded.
You should really have a look at the a.b.hdtv newsgroup just about every show/movie aired in hd is there. It'll be years before hd-dvd/blu-ray catches up with all the films that have been posted or archived already.
05-12-06 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bus
Can you give a bit more details on this?
I'm sure there is similar software for XP. I use a Mac Mini with OSX for capture, and then XP running on it to watch everything, and the websurfing.
