HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray vs. everything else free-for-all
07-10-06 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
I honestly have nothing to add. I am waiting for the PS3 and will support the superior format. Thats all there is to it.
07-10-06 | 05:54 PM
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From: Greenville, South Cackalack
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
this thread is just begging for some Blitz "Blu-boy" bellowing... 
07-10-06 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
I ASKED NICELY FOR NO ONE TO QUOTE HIM!!!!
07-11-06 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
...although to be fair, HD DVD would have been a very, very different product if not for the spectre of Blu-ray.
07-11-06 | 03:43 PM
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Nice survey re: the formats:
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles...d_research.php
While all market studies can be skewed to produce a "desired outcome" it does no good to ignore even the most blatant of them. Below is a summary of the latest consumer survey from one of the key market trend spotters in the nation. They say HD DVD is the value winner in the format war between it and Blu-Ray. This report comes on the heals of the formation of the HD DVD Promotion Association, a group vitally interested in the success of the HD DVD format. As a new owner of a true 1080 X 1920 display (Sony's SXRD 60" rear projector) I can attest to the fact that the old DVD format is now past its useful life. _Dale
In a national online survey among households either owning or intending to buy a High Definition TV, we asked respondents about their purchase interest in High Definition movie systems. To qualify, respondents had to have an active role in the decision making process when purchasing new electronics products for the household.
The final sample of 469 was screened from 1,341 respondents. The survey was conducted in two cells of approximately 235 each, which tested these scenarios: 1) All major Hollywood studios equally supporting both formats; and 2) Major studio support split between the two formats (i.e. today's situation). In each of these scenarios, respondents were properly educated as if they would be making a purchase decision (e.g. title key art, pricing, quantities, player compatibility).
The survey was conducted from June 28 to July 2 by Ipsos-Vantis, a company that specializes in forecasting demand for new products and sizing emerging categories. They have evaluated over 1,200 new consumer electronics products worldwide and have successfully predicted the size of the overall market and the individual platforms in emerging categories including DVD. Ipsos-Vantis forecasts have been tracked extensively against in-market sales, and have consistently produced a level of accuracy that is unmatched by any other firm in the world.
1. In response to the question "Which statement best describes how likely you would be to buy an HD DVD player," respondents were over seven times more likely to buy an HD DVD player vs. a Blu-Ray player when all studios support both formats.
a. 57% would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 8% for Blu-Ray.
b. 25% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 2% for Blu-Ray.
2. Purchase interest in HD DVD remains three times higher than Blu-Ray -- even without HD DVD studio support from Disney and Fox.
a. 56% of respondents would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 18%
for Blu-Ray.
b. 20% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 6% for Blu-Ray.
3. The main reason consumers prefer HD DVD over Blu-Ray is its superior value.
a. In response to the question, "Which statement best describes how you feel about the value of an HD DVD player," nearly 57% of respondents indicated that HD DVD was a "very good" or "fairly good" value vs. 14% for Blu-Ray.
b. Conversely, 68% indicated that Blu-Ray was a "somewhat poor" or "very poor" value vs. 19% for HD DVD.
4. In the 4th quarter 2006, the quantity of titles in the HD DVD format is assumed to be two times more than Blu-Ray (200+ for HD DVD vs. approximately 100 for Blu-Ray).
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles...d_research.php
While all market studies can be skewed to produce a "desired outcome" it does no good to ignore even the most blatant of them. Below is a summary of the latest consumer survey from one of the key market trend spotters in the nation. They say HD DVD is the value winner in the format war between it and Blu-Ray. This report comes on the heals of the formation of the HD DVD Promotion Association, a group vitally interested in the success of the HD DVD format. As a new owner of a true 1080 X 1920 display (Sony's SXRD 60" rear projector) I can attest to the fact that the old DVD format is now past its useful life. _Dale
In a national online survey among households either owning or intending to buy a High Definition TV, we asked respondents about their purchase interest in High Definition movie systems. To qualify, respondents had to have an active role in the decision making process when purchasing new electronics products for the household.
The final sample of 469 was screened from 1,341 respondents. The survey was conducted in two cells of approximately 235 each, which tested these scenarios: 1) All major Hollywood studios equally supporting both formats; and 2) Major studio support split between the two formats (i.e. today's situation). In each of these scenarios, respondents were properly educated as if they would be making a purchase decision (e.g. title key art, pricing, quantities, player compatibility).
The survey was conducted from June 28 to July 2 by Ipsos-Vantis, a company that specializes in forecasting demand for new products and sizing emerging categories. They have evaluated over 1,200 new consumer electronics products worldwide and have successfully predicted the size of the overall market and the individual platforms in emerging categories including DVD. Ipsos-Vantis forecasts have been tracked extensively against in-market sales, and have consistently produced a level of accuracy that is unmatched by any other firm in the world.
1. In response to the question "Which statement best describes how likely you would be to buy an HD DVD player," respondents were over seven times more likely to buy an HD DVD player vs. a Blu-Ray player when all studios support both formats.
a. 57% would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 8% for Blu-Ray.
b. 25% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 2% for Blu-Ray.
2. Purchase interest in HD DVD remains three times higher than Blu-Ray -- even without HD DVD studio support from Disney and Fox.
a. 56% of respondents would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 18%
for Blu-Ray.
b. 20% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 6% for Blu-Ray.
3. The main reason consumers prefer HD DVD over Blu-Ray is its superior value.
a. In response to the question, "Which statement best describes how you feel about the value of an HD DVD player," nearly 57% of respondents indicated that HD DVD was a "very good" or "fairly good" value vs. 14% for Blu-Ray.
b. Conversely, 68% indicated that Blu-Ray was a "somewhat poor" or "very poor" value vs. 19% for HD DVD.
4. In the 4th quarter 2006, the quantity of titles in the HD DVD format is assumed to be two times more than Blu-Ray (200+ for HD DVD vs. approximately 100 for Blu-Ray).
07-11-06 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by maingon
I agree, with the dissapointing Video of most Blue ray movies, HD-DVD should do better, they need some big titles fast. So far from what I seen I hope HD-DVD wins
07-11-06 | 03:57 PM
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Tweeter is pimping a 50" Plasma in it's radio advertisements, and mention that the best thing to go along with the new TV is the new Samsung BD player, but no mention of the Tosh. Tweeter at least is consistent in trying to draw in that "expensive is better" idoit that shops there. It makes no sense to limit to one format for retailers unless they are "on the take" for one format or the other.
07-11-06 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside
To be fair the big issue with supporting HD DVD is still the lack of support. Even with all of Blu-ray's current problems they still have a ton of supporters from a movie and hardware standpoint. If they get all those problems worked out by the end of the year and HD DVD doesn't get more people to switch sides its still going to be a tough road for HD DVD.
No one has become a bigger fan of HD DVD than I have, but I can still understand why many want to wait before deciding. The only thing I can't understand is anyone jumping on board with Blu-ray now.
No one has become a bigger fan of HD DVD than I have, but I can still understand why many want to wait before deciding. The only thing I can't understand is anyone jumping on board with Blu-ray now.
HD-DVD = Universal, WB, Paramount, Dreamworks (definitely); rumors of Disney
Where is that extra studio support?
07-11-06 | 06:51 PM
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Launch of Blu-ray delayed by Sony hogging the diodes?
Posted 15:31 - 10 July 2006 - by Wil Harris
Rumours out of China suggest that a large launch of Blu-ray players may not happen even this year, as Sony nabs all the critical parts for its PS3 console.
Commercial Times, which is a Chinese newspaper, says that Sony is wary about the capacity it has to produce laser diodes for the next-gen optical drives. Sony supplies the diodes to Benq, Philips and Lite-On.
Potential shortages could hamper the availability of the PS3, which has a Blu-ray drive built in, and Sony is allegedly more keen for the PS3 to be a hit than it is for its manufacturing partners to have enough components to build drives that, technically, compete with the PS3.
Although Samsung has already shipped a batch of players, there doesn't appear to be a stream of new units being shipped to stores, leading to questions about shortages already.
Sony has committed to shipping 2 million PS3s before Christmas hits, an incredibly ambitious target given the complexity and cost of manufacturing the machines.
Posted 15:31 - 10 July 2006 - by Wil Harris
Rumours out of China suggest that a large launch of Blu-ray players may not happen even this year, as Sony nabs all the critical parts for its PS3 console.
Commercial Times, which is a Chinese newspaper, says that Sony is wary about the capacity it has to produce laser diodes for the next-gen optical drives. Sony supplies the diodes to Benq, Philips and Lite-On.
Potential shortages could hamper the availability of the PS3, which has a Blu-ray drive built in, and Sony is allegedly more keen for the PS3 to be a hit than it is for its manufacturing partners to have enough components to build drives that, technically, compete with the PS3.
Although Samsung has already shipped a batch of players, there doesn't appear to be a stream of new units being shipped to stores, leading to questions about shortages already.
Sony has committed to shipping 2 million PS3s before Christmas hits, an incredibly ambitious target given the complexity and cost of manufacturing the machines.
07-11-06 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Sony is screwing the pooch...
Not only will the PS3 take away sales from their Blu-Ray partners due to the lower price, but now they're hogging parts so they can't even make their players.
Instead of getting screwed over by Sony, maybe these companies make some HD-DVD hardware.
Last edited by Coral; 07-11-06 at 08:05 PM.
07-12-06 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
At the moment, HD DVD has more studios releasing on it than BD.
Maybe they count differently in NY?
07-12-06 | 01:33 AM
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Columbia is Sony. Why should they count? MGM's home distribution is split between Sony and Fox. If Fox decided to do both instead of BD exclusively, a majority of MGM's library would go with.
Lionsgate is heavily rumored to be currently making HD-DVD transfers.
Lionsgate is heavily rumored to be currently making HD-DVD transfers.
07-12-06 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
I count WB and Universal for HD and Columbia, MGM, and Lionsgate for BD.
Maybe they count differently in NY?
Maybe they count differently in NY?
07-12-06 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
Add Paramount (announced yesterday) and Dreamworks to that, too. Voila! HD DVD beats out Blu-Ray for studio support.
So you can go pick up Dreamworks and Paramount titles at BestBuy today?
07-12-06 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
Add Paramount (announced yesterday) and Dreamworks to that, too. Voila! HD DVD beats out Blu-Ray for studio support.
And it's smart ass comments like that by Bcolon that give Blitz a little company on my ignore list.