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Old 07-07-06 | 11:44 AM
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute there. It'll be after 2nd gen that I get/care about a 1080p player since that'll require an expensive projector upgrade. Those prices have to fall first. Blu-ray guys like to beat the 1080p drum, but it really is a non-issue (outside of marketing) right now.

And not all 1080p monitors are the same, either. My 1024x768 projector beats the hell out of the Westinghouse 1080p plasma that BB uses to show HD DVD.
Exactly right...the more important thing is that the media is 1080p which it is....im sure ill probably have a different hd-dvd player by the time I have a 1080p display.
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Old 07-07-06 | 11:46 AM
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My 1024x768 projector beats the hell out of the Westinghouse 1080p plasma that BB uses to show HD DVD.
1080p LCD, just to be nitpicky.
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Old 07-07-06 | 11:46 AM
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1080p LCD, just to be nitpicky.
Really? That's even better then because my projector is LCD, too.
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Old 07-07-06 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
1080p is only enabled if the HDMI "handshake" between the player and display confirms that the TV is 1080p-capable. The JVC set you're connected to will not accept a 1080p input signal (most 1080p sets will only accept a maximum input of 1080i).
Thanks for clearing that up. So what sets do you reccomend to use the Samsung BD player at 1080p? Would the Mitsubishi 73" 73727 DLP or Sony 60" SXRD HDT do the job?
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:00 PM
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Syriana was too long to fit a combo, which is ATM single-layer on the HD side.
Do you have a link that backs up this claim, or is it mere speculation and assumption?
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Thanks for clearing that up. So what sets do you reccomend to use the Samsung BD player at 1080p? Would the Mitsubishi 73" 73727 DLP or Sony 60" SXRD HDT do the job?
The 73727 does not accept 1080p input (I have this set). As far as the Sony goes, Sony Style says that the KDS-60A2000 does accept 1080p.
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by awmurray
Really?
Yeah. I don't believe there's a 1080p plasma at retail that's less than 65".
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:12 PM
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Yeah. I don't believe there's a 1080p plasma at retail that's less than 65".
Indeed, the panny 65" is the only one and its only $9995! The 47" Westinghouse 1080p LCD is available for 2500 or so tho, if you need a decent size 1080p panel.
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:45 PM
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Plasma cells are too big to fit 1920x1080 of them at smaller than 65", so far. But the Panny isn't the only one. There's a few in the 65" range, a couple in the 80" range, and Samsung is supposedly selling the 100" only in Korea. Theoretically, there could be 50-something inch 1080 plasmas by the end of the year. But I'm stretching some announcements and rumors, here.

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You're just supposed to sit 2.5' away from the Westy and pretend.
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Old 07-07-06 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Thanks for clearing that up. So what sets do you reccomend to use the Samsung BD player at 1080p? Would the Mitsubishi 73" 73727 DLP or Sony 60" SXRD HDT do the job?
Does CompUSA still carry the HP 6580N?
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Old 07-07-06 | 03:23 PM
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The 73727 does not accept 1080p input (I have this set). As far as the Sony goes, Sony Style says that the KDS-60A2000 does accept 1080p.
The 2006 Sony SXRDs (due out in summer/fall) will accept and display a 1080p signal. These include the A2000s, as mentioned, and the XBR series.
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Old 07-07-06 | 08:42 PM
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The 2006 Sony SXRDs (due out in summer/fall) will accept and display a 1080p signal. These include the A2000s, as mentioned, and the XBR series.
Cool. We have an SXRD in the store. It's the KDS-R60XBR1. That one should work, right?
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Old 07-07-06 | 08:58 PM
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The current SXRDs display at 1080p but don't take 1080p input, I believe.
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Old 07-07-06 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
The current SXRDs display at 1080p but don't take 1080p input, I believe.
That's correct. The current XBR1 will only take 1080i even though it has a native output of 1080p. The next series (XBR2) will accept a 1080p signal.
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Old 07-08-06 | 04:37 PM
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For those who think the HD DVD players suck and have crippling issues check this poll out:

Poll: HD-A1/XA1 Did you decide to keep your unit or return it?

Right now, 97.13% have said they're keeping theirs with 172 responses.
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Old 07-08-06 | 06:15 PM
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For those who think the HD DVD players suck and have crippling issues check this poll out:

Poll: HD-A1/XA1 Did you decide to keep your unit or return it?

Right now, 97.13% have said they're keeping theirs with 172 responses.
Those polls are comical at best. Honestly, what're they gonna do, return it and go back to SD-DVD? Or perhaps buy a BR player (id bet most couldnt afford one anyway)? They have no choice but to stick to the crappy hardware since theres nothing else comming out for a LONG time. If there were 3-4 CE companys with players on the way, you'd see a LOT of people dumping the toshiba. That isnt the case tho, as no other CE company wants to touch HD-DVD with a 10 foot pole (other then re-badges, of course). Lets be realistic here. Its the only game in town, and will remain this way for quite a while.
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Old 07-08-06 | 06:41 PM
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Those polls are comical at best. Honestly, what're they gonna do, return it and go back to SD-DVD? Or perhaps buy a BR player (id bet most couldnt afford one anyway)? They have no choice but to stick to the crappy hardware since theres nothing else comming out for a LONG time. If there were 3-4 CE companys with players on the way, you'd see a LOT of people dumping the toshiba. That isnt the case tho, as no other CE company wants to touch HD-DVD with a 10 foot pole (other then re-badges, of course). Lets be realistic here. Its the only game in town, and will remain this way for quite a while.
Man, you're a tiresome individual.
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Old 07-08-06 | 06:52 PM
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Those polls are comical at best. Honestly, what're they gonna do, return it and go back to SD-DVD? Or perhaps buy a BR player (id bet most couldnt afford one anyway)? They have no choice but to stick to the crappy hardware since theres nothing else comming out for a LONG time. If there were 3-4 CE companys with players on the way, you'd see a LOT of people dumping the toshiba. That isnt the case tho, as no other CE company wants to touch HD-DVD with a 10 foot pole (other then re-badges, of course). Lets be realistic here. Its the only game in town, and will remain this way for quite a while.
What are you blathering about? Just give it a rest already.
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Old 07-08-06 | 07:45 PM
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Those polls are comical at best. Honestly, what're they gonna do, return it and go back to SD-DVD? Or perhaps buy a BR player (id bet most couldnt afford one anyway)? They have no choice but to stick to the crappy hardware since theres nothing else comming out for a LONG time. If there were 3-4 CE companys with players on the way, you'd see a LOT of people dumping the toshiba. That isnt the case tho, as no other CE company wants to touch HD-DVD with a 10 foot pole (other then re-badges, of course). Lets be realistic here. Its the only game in town, and will remain this way for quite a while.




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Old 07-09-06 | 01:47 AM
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I realize that people are trying to take him to task for his nonsensical "ideas," but quoting the troll FOUR TIMES IN A ROW not only defeats the entire purpose of of using the ignore list, it destroys any enjoyment from even opening this thread.

Please, people, consider that before you quote him next time.
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Old 07-09-06 | 05:17 AM
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I realize that people are trying to take him to task for his nonsensical "ideas," but quoting the troll FOUR TIMES IN A ROW not only defeats the entire purpose of of using the ignore list, it destroys any enjoyment from even opening this thread.

Please, people, consider that before you quote him next time.
Ignoring him would only be useful if EVERYONE ignored him, or else someone is still going to respond to him and like usual he will have derailed the thread. If everyone is going to ignore him, he might as well not post here any more.
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Old 07-09-06 | 10:01 AM
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Ignoring him would only be useful if EVERYONE ignored him, or else someone is still going to respond to him and like usual he will have derailed the thread. If everyone is going to ignore him, he might as well not post here any more.
So what's the problem with that??
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Old 07-09-06 | 10:18 AM
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You can't derail this thread like that. Fighting is what it is about. If everybody got a big happy face and agreed, THAT would derail this thread.
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The HD-DVDs I seen looked amazing. Especially Riddick and Serenity. I have only seen one blue-ray movie (fifth Element) and I was hoping to be blown away as I was with HD DVD but I wasnt. didnt look that good (didnt look bad but not up to Serenity on HD DVD)
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I said in another post that I think HD-DVD is slowly wasting their opportunity they have right now. If they are committed (which I believe they are) they need to have at least one A+ blockbuster that helps sell systems. King Kong, Batman Begins, Harry Potter, something along those lines. Don't get me wrong, I own 10 HD-DVDs and intend to buy many more, but there's nothing my friends are dying to see in HD yet. I just strongly believe that the longer HD-DVD goes without making a real impact, the more trouble they're in come the holidays.

I agree, with the dissapointing Video of most Blue ray movies, HD-DVD should do better, they need some big titles fast. So far from what I seen I hope HD-DVD wins
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