Yes, that topic is definately being piled on in that forum....some valid points were made (his saying that he doesnt recommend it for hd recorded content while not even reviewing that part of the player), but it is definately getting out of hand....they should close that thread already.

Damnit Sony is not paying me anything. I am looking at it based on a commen sense standpoint. It really hurts your arguement to simply say that anyone who supports Blu-Ray must be paid off by Sony even if they have critized Sony on numerous other issues.

No, but you do make some outrageous claims and jump to conclusions...so its very clear that you are jaded towards Sony.

As far as your point above about PS3 and HDTVs, Ive said that the majority of people dont have HDTVs, not people who will buy the PS3.

Im sure that a large percentage of people buying the PS3 will have an HDTV, BUT not all. Even then, buying a PS3 does NOT equate to someone buying BD software (whether they have an HDTV or not). Personally, when I buy a PS3 (depending on prices and games) it will be for gaming, not movie watching. Im sure many will be doing the same thing.

Of course the PS3 (like the xbox 360) will drive some people to get an HDTV, it wont be an astronomical number. This format war will go on for a while. Im just doubtful that the PS3 is gonna turn the tide.

So if I buy my computer primarily for internet access I can't use it for homework because that wasn't the primary reason for buying it. Thats your logic. Just because a gamer buys the Playstation 3 with gaming as a primary concern doesn't mean they won't use its Blu-Ray playback ability.

If you've followed more than my last 2 posts, you would know that I don't care which disc wins, I just want at least one to stick around for awhile. Also, I can't stand any of the first generation machines on either side. For reasons like: Missing audio codecs, missing connections, poor output options, typical 1st gen pricing, etc.

Besides, that post was mostly just to tweak the Freak, who can't decide if he's a zealot or not. Did it work?

Actually, that wasn't his logic at all. How you come up with these bizarre leaps of logic is mind-boggling.

It also doesn't mean that they will use it for Blu-ray, either. Yet you keep making the claim that they will, despite the lack of any kind of concrete evidence to support it.

Not his best work for sure. He left out certain points that would have cleared up some of the issue. (like that he DID review it for HD, just not for that particular review) Most of that thread is actually only one guy screaming at him. Wonder what that guy's problem is. Justification of a purchase is one thing, but that baby is over the top.

And why is that? I would actually think the opposite.

There won't be any concrete evidence one way or the other, at least not to us mere oiks. The studios and retailers will be able to tell on their sales figures after PS3 launches. Presumably the same way they must have been able to gauge the effect of the PS2 on DVD sales, both when it launched in the US and when it launched in markets with less mature DVD sales. Several studios mentioned PS3 support prominently when announcing they would release titles on BD, which might tell us the way they see things panning out.

Surely there are more HD TVs in US homes now than there were a year ago.

Haha...yeah, I wish he would just remove/alter that one line in his review about not recommending it for hd recorded content and this would all be over.

I just heard that Toshiba is going to stop all production on anything HD-DVD related immediately from fear of the almighty PS3. they stated that they just cannot handle the shame that Sony will sell 1 trillion of these units before the end of March 2007. they also stated that they are now going to help Sony build this almighty PS3 so they can sell it for $99 so they can get Blu-Ray into every single home in the world. it was stated that the PS3 will now incorporate a new feature. its codename is "TRUE LOVE". on April 1,2007 at precisely 12:01am the PS3 will immediately establish world peace. now I don't know about any of you but I for one am going to return my XA1 right now and wait for the Almighty PS3 to make this a perfect world come April 1st.

Because PS3 is better than XBox 360 and nothing branded Sony sucks or can fail (except UMD or Betamax).

Plus people who buy non-Sony products like XBox are inherently dumber than those who buy Sony products like the PS3.

Yep and all without a PS3... hmmm.

Of course there are, but there are a lot more people that buy Playstations than XBOX's and i HIGHLY doubt that over 60% of PS3 owners will also own HDTV's.

Yes, I have just now asked the PS3 into my heart and to forgive me of all my sins.

Hmm. The Bible comments that there will be a particularly nasty war before world peace. So, are all these threads supposed to be it? I think the 2 groups definitely count as religions at this point.

You can use your computer for whatever you like. You obviously didnt get my point. What you CAN do with something and what you actually DO with something are 2 different things.

I was just pointing out that alot of people dont use their gaming system to watch movies on (Im one of them and none of my friends with HDTVs and gaming consoles do either).

I would bet the percentage is rather large who use a separate dvd player (and even higher for those with HDTVs) for movie watching. There is no proof that will change with the PS3.

If BD was a HUGE difference from DVDs then this might be different. I just think the average person who buys a PS3 (and has and HDTV) will not make the BD jump. And, the ones who WANT to make the jump would probably go with a standalone player. Thats just my opinion based on myself and my friends.

Hmm, supposedly Bill Gates is the anti-christ so if this is true, then I better get on the Sony bandwagon.

Because of the growth of the number of HDTVs on the market in that time period, the Playstation 3s higher expected price point, and the fact that it holds value to videophiles while the Xbox 360 does not.

I consider myself a videophile and in my opinion, Oblivion looks STELLAR in 720p on my DLP set. There is some really beautiful scenary in that game!

Again, I dont know where your getting your info.

Im very impressed with the 360.

The reason few today use there game consoles for DVD players is because far better stand alone players are much cheaper. Thats not the case with the Playstation 3. Tell me how I am wrong. Why if you own both a Playstation 3 and an HDTV would you not use its Blu-Ray ability? Sony is going to do whatever they can to tell you that your Playstation 3 is a Blu-Ray player. Id be surprised if the Playstation 3 isn't bundled with a Blu-Ray movie title of some kind and would be even more surprised if Blu-Ray movies don't have stickers telling you that they are Playstation 3 compatible. So you have an HDTV and a Playstation 3 your favorite title has come out on Blu-Ray and DVD at comparible prices why would you pick the DVD.

Actually, my observation is that there is really only one religion involved here, and that is the Church of Sony .

I already own an HD-A1, and I will also soon own a Blu-ray player (possibly even a Sony! ). It just bothers me when people use disinformation (whether deliberately or out of ignorance) to promote their "favorite" format.

It also makes no sense to me to show such blind favoritism to a home video format. All that matters to me is having the ability to view movies in HD. I don't care who "wins".

Expected by who? I don't expect it to be any higher than the XBOX360. Of course i could be wrong but so can the people you are referring to.

Nothing against the Xbox 360 as a game console, its great but in terms of movie playback it offers nothing but a below average progressive scan DVD player.

Esp before they flippin' exist!