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Old 10-27-07, 08:29 AM
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Oh, I wonder which category they'll stick us under. Home? Time & Leisure? Or maybe create a new one like "Time Wasting"

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Old 10-27-07, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gkleinman
Q: Why did DVD Talk Join Internet Brands?
Internet Brandsí mission is to empower consumers to make better decisions about buying and maintaining their purchases.
oh man...

Scott Adams HAD to to be the one who wrote this...
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Old 10-27-07, 09:34 AM
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DVD Talk was like a little oasis in the vast Internet..now I am worried.
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Old 10-27-07, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMadMonk
We fear change.
That is the long and short of the whole thing. It's human nature to do so. I'm curious to see where things go with the new move here. Hopefully things only continue to get better. If not, there's a whole wide world (web) out there for your enjoyment and time wasting. You guys have kept me laughing and learning for 7 straight years and I don't think Geoff would do anything to simply throw that all away, so I'm hoping for good things in the future.
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hmmm.... Geoff would have never made me a moderator. Maybe I should start a letter writing campaign to Bob Brisco...
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Old 10-27-07, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scott1598
does this mean we can finally have avatars??????
Scanning through the other forum sites IB owns, the answer appears to be yes. They all also have the annoying html and pics in sigs, so you have to scroll through 37 giant pictures of the same car if the same poster happens to have posted 37 times in the thread. I hate that shit. I sure hope there will be a way to turn that off.

Also, lots more ads. I DIDN'T notice, however, any of those obnoxious text links. That would drive me out of here.
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Old 10-27-07, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I cannot name a single instance where the result of a similar transition went well. TV.com, TVshowsonDVD.com, etc.

Geoff cares about this forum more than all of us put together, and I'm confident he would not have done this without careful deliberation as to what is best for the members and future of this forum. So I will take a positive, but cautious, position and wait to see how this unfolds.
Oh, boy! When TV Tome switched to TV.com, the whole thing just tanked in my opinion and that site took a huge nose dive. I disagree with you on TVshowsonDVD.com; theyíve really stayed the same and itís only those annoying amazon.com sales news in the front page that gets a little overwhelming. Theyíve been an excellent site for TOD related news and they continue to be the #1 site in my opinion, for TOD related information.

Since I joined DVDTalk, I've enjoyed posting everytime and although (like many DVD Talkerís) Iíve been in hot water a few times with a few posters about my opinions, itís been fun discussing them.

Hell, if a site can get me to love Seinfeld (a show I once hated with a passion), it's pretty good in my books.

I hope the site doesn't change much, but if it does, I hope it changes for the better!
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Old 10-27-07, 12:17 PM
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Congratulations Geoff! I do hope that you made some money out the sale.

Originally Posted by Numanoid
Scanning through the other forum sites IB owns, the answer appears to be yes. They all also have the annoying html and pics in sigs, so you have to scroll through 37 giant pictures of the same car if the same poster happens to have posted 37 times in the thread. I hate that shit. I sure hope there will be a way to turn that off.

Also, lots more ads. I DIDN'T notice, however, any of those obnoxious text links. That would drive me out of here.
I would be okay if this site adds avatars but I find those html and pics in signatures very annoying. Just like Numanoid, I hope that they give us an option to turn those things off.
I'm hoping that there won't be any "drastic" changes to this forum since this is the only forum that I frequent now a days.
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Old 10-27-07, 01:02 PM
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I appreciate all your replies to the news. The one thing I've realized is the only constant in life is change. I know some of you fear it, some of you hate it and some of you embrace it. There's been change going on from the day I launched the site, this is just a more specific and definable event.

To answer some of the questions/concerns/etc:

- Yes Avatars are in the plans. IB wants to upgrade our forum to the latest version of VB an enable all the features that we haven't been able to do because of our server configuration and db size.
- We're going to get some help on the backend to optimize the database. This is huge as there have been things that have happened on the forum because of the db that we can't explain or fix (like getting strange errors on long posts).
- There isn't any change planed with the mod squad, and really those are the guys who set the tone in the forum. Truth be told, I've been pretty hands off in the forum over the past few months as X & Co have had things firmly under controll
- The biggest changes have already happened. XCritic was spun off as its own site and company, John Sinott and Scott Lecter were promoted to Assistant Editors, Mike Flacy was brought on as Video Game Talk Editor and Daniel Hershliefer got the nod as Editor of High Def. These are all people who have been major contributors to the site and they have been in leadership roles now for a number of weeks.
- This move will free my time up so I can give my attention to areas of the site that have been sorely neglected.
- There are no plans to flood the forum with new ads and ad types. I've experimented with a lot of things in the past and I think we have some pretty clear learnings on what works and doesn't work

But most importantly, I spent a LOT of time with the Internet Brands folks before doing any of this. I read all their public filings cover to cover, spent hours and hours talking to them both over the phone and in person, looked at the history of the sites they've acquired and what's happened to those sites after they were bought. DVD Talk is my baby, and so I'd never give her over to someone who would ever do anything to harm her.
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Old 10-27-07, 01:32 PM
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Sounds good, Geoff.

I hope they listened to you and they appreciate the apprehension a good number of us are going through.

Here's to good days ahead
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Congrats Geoff. This is by far my fave community on the web, and I hope it will continue to be top notch. Maybe now you can post a bit more frequently (in other...)
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Old 10-27-07, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LorenzoL
Congratulations Geoff! I do hope that you made some money out the sale.


I would be okay if this site adds avatars but I find those html and pics in signatures very annoying. Just like Numanoid, I hope that they give us an option to turn those things off.
I'm hoping that there won't be any "drastic" changes to this forum since this is the only forum that I frequent now a days.
Turning off signatures and avatars is an option now. Just go into the User CP, Edit Options, then "Thread Display Options"
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Expecting the worse.

Hoping for the best.
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Old 10-27-07, 03:26 PM
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Turning off signatures and avatars is an option now. Just go into the User CP, Edit Options, then "Thread Display Options"
Thanks pilot.
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Old 10-27-07, 03:32 PM
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- This move will free my time up so I can give my attention to areas of the site that have been sorely neglected.
I see alot of gkleinman post coming soon to Book Talk.
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Old 10-27-07, 03:39 PM
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While the move might seem to explain a lot of things, keep in mind that DVD Talk has grown tremendously over the last 8 years and in many ways was still handled like a one man show (no disrespect to the mods/admins/reviewers, and others providing content). A very small percentage of members have been extremely vocal about every little decision that didn't suit their personal needs, wants, and desires; often trolling endlessly to drum up support for others to "storm the gates" in protest. No matter what path G! took, there would be some faction sniping at his heels; the result of how big the website has become over the years. There have been numerous behind the scenes matters taking place that he could not devote as much time too, something he'll be able to be more proactive about in the near future.

The move to IB is like all other changes in that it will provide more opportunities for G! to address some of those concerns people have had, all the while taking some of the grunt work off his back (effectively freeing him to make upgrades and improvements that have long been promised). The value of DVD Talk to IB rests as much in G! continuing as keeping the website running on the same path that most of you want as anything else. Having checked out some of their other websites (I liked Do It Yourself.com the most), they seem to offer a lot in return.

No one is holding a gun to the head of members to stay so consider that ultimately, any changes that come will have to be okay with the majority of you. G! has poured thousands of hours into DVD Talk and done so with marginal tech support by some really helpful friends but as evidenced by the attack last week, not enough to protect the community from attacks. The server not being able to handle searches during peak hours is another matter that drew continued, repeated criticism too. The business model of becoming a pay site was brought up a number of times but my belief is that few members would have paid and the reduced advertising dollars would not have brought in the needed support (and as good as DVD Talk looks, much of it is has been cobbled together over the years; making it far too unstable to continue much longer without major support upgrades).

The adult spinoff of Xcritic was needed for the change too, the adult content proving FAR too profitable to let go but as it continued to increase in popularity, it alienated more than the same handful of whiners that did not want the possibility of seeing a breast, ass cheek, or adult topic of choice to throw them into frenzies. Not everyone is happy with the move of the adult forum as they are with the porn reviews leaving, but like every other choice in life, it provides a chance to do more with that content.

Hopefully, the move to IB will allow many of the concerns to be addressed faster and free up G! to do some of the stuff most of you appreciate. If the growth starts going in some direction you don't like, I expect you'll be as vocal with the new owners but you'll still have an advocate supporting you with G!
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Old 10-27-07, 03:53 PM
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Ive been coming here for something like 7 years (!!!!!) and hey, more power to Geoff. It's been a great site to visit and as long as that "mood" doesn't change I'll keep coming by. Congrats!
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I swear, if that cracker smiley goes away as a result of this, someone is going to regret it.

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Old 10-27-07, 07:27 PM
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While the move might seem to explain a lot of things, keep in mind that DVD Talk has grown tremendously over the last 8 years and in many ways was still handled like a one man show (no disrespect to the mods/admins/reviewers, and others providing content). A very small percentage of members have been extremely vocal about every little decision that didn't suit their personal needs, wants, and desires; often trolling endlessly to drum up support for others to "storm the gates" in protest. No matter what path G! took, there would be some faction sniping at his heels; the result of how big the website has become over the years. There have been numerous behind the scenes matters taking place that he could not devote as much time too, something he'll be able to be more proactive about in the near future.

The move to IB is like all other changes in that it will provide more opportunities for G! to address some of those concerns people have had, all the while taking some of the grunt work off his back (effectively freeing him to make upgrades and improvements that have long been promised). The value of DVD Talk to IB rests as much in G! continuing as keeping the website running on the same path that most of you want as anything else. Having checked out some of their other websites (I liked Do It Yourself.com the most), they seem to offer a lot in return.

No one is holding a gun to the head of members to stay so consider that ultimately, any changes that come will have to be okay with the majority of you. G! has poured thousands of hours into DVD Talk and done so with marginal tech support by some really helpful friends but as evidenced by the attack last week, not enough to protect the community from attacks. The server not being able to handle searches during peak hours is another matter that drew continued, repeated criticism too. The business model of becoming a pay site was brought up a number of times but my belief is that few members would have paid and the reduced advertising dollars would not have brought in the needed support (and as good as DVD Talk looks, much of it is has been cobbled together over the years; making it far too unstable to continue much longer without major support upgrades).

The adult spinoff of Xcritic was needed for the change too, the adult content proving FAR too profitable to let go but as it continued to increase in popularity, it alienated more than the same handful of whiners that did not want the possibility of seeing a breast, ass cheek, or adult topic of choice to throw them into frenzies. Not everyone is happy with the move of the adult forum as they are with the porn reviews leaving, but like every other choice in life, it provides a chance to do more with that content.

Hopefully, the move to IB will allow many of the concerns to be addressed faster and free up G! to do some of the stuff most of you appreciate. If the growth starts going in some direction you don't like, I expect you'll be as vocal with the new owners but you'll still have an advocate supporting you with G!
Do you have to be so condescending to others? I mean seriously, these are other DVD Talk members you are talking about. I don't even know what you are talking about, but your attitude towards others is really poor.
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Old 10-27-07, 07:54 PM
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Do you have to be so condescending to others? I mean seriously, these are other DVD Talk members you are talking about. I don't even know what you are talking about, but your attitude towards others is really poor.
Have you read this thread?

Is it me, or has the Adult Forum...

Don's response is completely warranted, IMO.

Might want to study up before attacking Don's opinions on something that he has a very large stake in.
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Great, thats your opinion, I don't think you should be calling other people whiners and what not...or at least address them personally in the threads where they are causing trouble. I thought that was a policy of DVD Talk to not attack other posterrs - calling them whiners and other names.

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Old 10-27-07, 08:12 PM
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Do you have to be so condescending to others? I mean seriously, these are other DVD Talk members you are talking about. I don't even know what you are talking about, but your attitude towards others is really poor.
I'm not condescending to the vast majority of members here; only a very small number of people that felt in necessary to repeatedly bring up the same arguments time after time in an effort to have their way (even when told by the owner to effectively drop their trolling). Perhaps you missed out on some of their remarks and don't have the history of dealing with them (cough) but I adhere to the rules and will not attack them by name as you seem to desire.

Otherwise, if you admittedly don't know what I'm referring to, commenting on it strikes me as somewhat curious...

(Thanks Tide; as the defender of the adult realm, I have been dealing with the people mentioned for years and I think "chanster" knows more about what I'm talking about than he's letting on...)
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Old 10-27-07, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chanster
Do you have to be so condescending to others? I mean seriously, these are other DVD Talk members you are talking about. I don't even know what you are talking about, but your attitude towards others is really poor.
Unless you're one of the "very small percentage of members" being referred to, what does it matter?
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