I also agree with BrentLumkin's post completely. Anime is a much more specific category that is hardly ever brought up on the main forum before getting buried under all the mainstream topics. Anime would make alot more sense to me.

That's what I meant by taking my chances with the mutants...

It's not just a question of more young people with bad manners and poor social skills, we're talking about a whole sub-forum dedicated to a genre evolving more and more towards the glorification of aggressivity, violence and sadistic behaviour as an artform and that's not healthy.

Put me down as another one who dislikes the subforum for horror. Horror seems way too mainstream to me to be cast aside as if it isn't worthy of cluttering up the main forum. Why not subforums for comedy, romance, etc.? You also get into the whole issue of having to decide what movies qualify as horror. Sure, many are obvious, but others are cross-genre.

Bad and unnecessary idea, in my opinion.

That's why for better or worse it was decided to use the IMDB method...

Not sure how far back mods are going in order to move things over to the Horror forum but in case it is two weeks, the default cutoff date, here are a couple missed threads that need to be moved ranging from 7-14 days ago..

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=469232 (assuming it applies to television shows that are horror also.. from 2 days ago)

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=468690
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=461597
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=446366
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=468172
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=462234
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=468124
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=458127
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=388624

Generally I've been sticking to just the first page. If one of the old threads is bumped I'll move it over but I'm not going digging for them

I just want to quickly add that I really like the new subforum idea.

Well then let me ask you this: If it offends you so much, shouldn't you be glad there is a sub-forum dedicated to these movies so you don't need to read about them. Also, although you may not realize it, your past few posts have been pretty offensive.

Contrary to what you believe, not every horror fan is a pimply faced teenager looking to get off by watching "splatter-porn". I'm well into my thirties and while I enjoy a good gory horror movie, many of my favorites have little to no gore factor.

While I respect your opinion, I can tell you that while I'm not a big fan of foreign films, anime, etc. I certainly wouldn't shit all over them if they had their own sub-forum.

The problem comes from the definition of "horror". I am a fan of horror films - I can talk about "The Others" for hours - but I'm not a fan of splat films. If you're saying I should rejoice that all splatter ghouls should be quarantined in their own little ghettoized area of dvdtalk like so many deformed mutants, then maybe yes, it's a good thing in the long run. Looking at the roster presently on display in that sub-forum certainly confirms this. But that means no more intelligent discussion* of classic or recent horror films on DVD that don't have the required tonnage of blood and guts for the rest of us. Try to imagine, if you will, the mayhem that would ensue if all discussion of the relations between the sexes or even eroticism in the movies was confined to "Adult Talk".

*Intelligent discussion = without personal attacks

Guys, 80% of Benoît's posts are flame-bait... -notrolls-

As far as a horror sub-forum? Terrible idea. Is it for DVDs? For all movies? Just in the main page, I count at least a handful of threads that deal with movies, not DVDs. Horror (or as Noel always said, "genre movies") don't seem to really warrant their own subforum because it's a very non-specific genre, and it's a genre which has a LOT of mainstream attention (unlike non-R1 DVDs, anime, etc.).

Now an anime subforum, I think that WOULD work, mostly because anime is something that you usually either like or hate. There's very little ground.

Subforums as a whole tend to get a huge drop in traffic. Look at the music forum. It's like Book Forum Pt. 2 --- yet anytime there's a music post in Other, there's ton of replies and discussion. It's not that people don't want to talk Music, it's that they don't want to follow a whole bunch of subforums. Look at the discussions on Adult Talk or Politics to get an idea of what happens -- you get a drop in the regulars discussing this topic and it's left to a very small group of people, for better or for worse.

Something that Something Awful has implemented into their forums (which run on vB) is the ability to filter posts. This creates the ability to focus only on certain types of threads (say, in our case, Horror) without needing to move the crowd into a subforum. I don't know what implementing that entails, but it is something to think about.

Don't like the subforum idea either, in principle. Don't really care in this case as I don't like horror but don't like the idea of genre specific forums in general.

I like being able to just look at the dvd talk forum every day to keep up on dvd release news. With subforums, it's more areas to keep up on, and this case I will have to dig to find info in the rare instances that there is a horror DVD I'm interested in.

Does it apply to television shows also? The X-Files thread was on the first page (pretty sure it was anyway) when the original threads were removed so didn't know if they are exempt or if it was just missed.

Well X-Files wasn't a horror series, so it shouldn't be moved.

According to the DVD Stalk criteria, it is. Listed as Drama/Horror on IMDb.

Lame.

It had a few horror episodes, but the show wasn't close to being horror. I would say Sci-Fi fits it more. I could see something like Tales from the Crypt or Supernatural going to DVD Stalk though.

See, it's already causing confusion. To me, X-Files is horror. Alot of people would also think so. I could see why other people wouldn't agree, but this whole subforum is going to lead to debates like this. It's just too broad of a spectrum. Anime, on the other hand, is pretty hard to mistake for something else. I think anime, and maybe TV on dvd, would be ideally suited for a subforum, but that's about it. Then again, I would be happy if all dvd topics was just under the main forum and then I wouldn't have to wade through the generic movie discussion threads that are populating the current Dvdstalk forum.

Like I said earlier, it'd make a whole lot more sense to have an anime sub-folder than one for the entire horror genre. It has a very specific fan base and it's a lot easier to classify a flick as anime. Besides, that's the sub-folder that people were asking for anyway.

I agree, unless the main forum was getting too much traffic, and it had to be split off because of that.

Using the IMDB for listing what is and what isn't horror is a bad way to go about it, but I guess there isn't any other way.

But I see a return of the "Is Aliens horror" debate that went on in Movie Talk.

Apologies for the appearance of piling on but I noticed that most of these threads have been moved to the Horror sub-forum minus the two TV series ones (X-Files and The Outer Limits).

Does that mean TV series are exempt, they just weren't moved, or is something like a TV on DVD sub-forum forthcoming?

Here's another discussion about this misbegotten idea, and the consensus there is to can it: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=469375

Re-posting from the PROPER Dvd Talk forum:

KILL, KILL, KILL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a well-seasoned horror fan and I agree that the whole idea of this sub-forum is absolutely absurd. Kill it now! There is NO reason for this sub-division and it will definitely limit any attention to genre-oriented releases from general DVD fans. Why separate it? Return things to normal please! Horror fans are NOT exclusive - we like other types of films too - and vice versa! General DVD fans may be interested in select horror titles, so don't segregate them! Stop the idiocy!

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I only came to this sub-forum because of the link on the main forum, but I will NOT be back. 80% of the DVD's I buy are probably horror/cult flicks, but I don't need to visit this dumb sub-site to get my info and news on simply one genre that I may be interested in. This is beyond stupidity. Crash and burn fast, please. RIP - DVDstalk.

Co-signed!

imo that's the reason horror should not be seperated. It's mainstream so leave
it in the mainstream are. Anime, while there are a lot of titles, is definately a
niche catagory. It doesn't fit with the mainstream as it's both animated and
foreign in nature (and niche). Those wanting to know about it would assume
they'd need to go to a specific area (a subforum) to read about it, and thus
seek it out. With horror being where it is now it may be doing a diservice to
the genre. I just forsee tons of folks who may like it just forgetting to check
for the subforum and as such missing out on news/talk about the subject (I
know I have several times, even having been there before). Anime is anime,
there's no maybe this title is, maybe it isn't, like with horror.

I could have probably said that better

How about if we moved it to the Movie Talk area and morphed it into a talk about more general horror stuff (ie in theaters and such)?

This would probably be a good idea considering that a good deal of the threads in DVD Stalk are discussions about the actual movies as opposed to dvd news, features, etc.