I was just curious as to when the new DVD Stalk column will be up and running? As mentioned in Noel's farewell post:

BTW, Noel needs to come out of his 3-month "retirement" and get his ass back over here! I'm being deprived of my daily schlock intake and am not very happy about it! Hell, I'd be happy with just a Schlockcast every few months or so. Even though they weren't as popular as the print reviews/columns...I'd gladly take them any day over nothing at all!

It's been on my mind quite a bit. Trying to figure out how to make it a reality.

I was thinking about asking this a few weeks ago. Slipped my mind but it's nice to know it's still being mulled over. But Noel made it sound like there was already a solid plan in place.

Anywho, hopefully something for the genre will get worked out.

There was a plan in place, it was not as solid as we had hoped. The person I had hoped would be the editor found that he needed to split his time more than he had thought.

But it will happen!

I personally can't wait. He was the only dvdtalk column that i read every single word of and didn't just skim to see what interested me. Cutting my teeth on B-movies and MST3K made me adore that column.

Hopefully you are able to work out something new and just as good.

In case some didn't notice, there's a new DVD Stalk subforum for horror DVDs.

Column link: http://www.dvdtalk.com/horror/
Forum Area: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/forumdi...?s=&forumid=56

Thanks again everyone for your support!

I like horror movies and all, but I don't care for having a separate dvd-forum section just for horror dvds. Why compartmentalize it so? And where do you draw the line? Because it can get tricky - where does a movie like Alien fall? Horror or Sci-fi?

Why not a separate section for drama dvds, or a separate one for action and so on?

Things like this just make the forum too messy and scattered.

People have been asking for an anime forum for years...

I'd dig a separate anime forum.

There's no polite way to put this, so I'll just say it: it always seems that the new sub-forums around here are the one's nobody's asking for.

I'm a horror fan myself, but I don't think the traffic warranted a new forum.

Many thanks for the new column, but I agree that the subforum is a bad idea, it can get very subjective what's horror and it means having to check multiple forums to find the latest info or to avoid posting dupes. Nemein mentions that the initial rule will be that any movie with horror in the top 3 genres at IMDB will belong in the horror forum, here's a breakdown of some movies and where they would belong under that criteria:

Arlington Road: Main forum
Signs: Main forum
Pitch Black: Horror forum
Hannibal: Main forum
Jurassic Park: Horror forum

The line seems very fine and I think will end up creating a lot of confusion amongst users.

Glad to see DVD Stalk but really dislike that sub-forum. Place any release info desired in the columns and its DVD Stalk column section but forcing all horror conversations into a sub-forum is deliberately wasteful.

The `burbs (comedy/horror/thriller)

The list goes on and on. Using IMDb as a basis for a main genre is very, very flawed.

First this and now I see All Movie has redesigned their site to a more visually appealing design like All Music but now takes the info that was on one page and spreads it out over 5 slower loading pages.

I'm a big horror fan, but I hate the subforum.

This wouldn't be such a bad idea for a Movie Talk subforum, but I think all DVD releated information should be in the main forum.

I go to DVDTalk for DVD news, and I'm concerned that horror DVD news would get lost in threads like, "Favorite Zombie Movie", and "Best Jason Kill."

If we have to have this, can it at least be possible to access it through the main drop down menu? Instead of going through the main forum?

Let's see how it goes. If it's a flop, we'll fold it back into the main forum. If it's a hit we'll add Anime Talk

^^^ Sounds like a fair deal. I'll support the DVD Stalk subforum and, hopefully, the anime one in the future.

Geoff; somebody facetiously mentioned this in a thread in the new subforum, but I wonder if it'd be such a bad idea: separate forums for new releases vs. re-releases. I'm not about branching the forums into a thousand separate areas...that's never good for a community. It segregates the users too much (those horror fans no longer interact with the comedy fans, and so forth). However, I think that could be useful to have conversations about new releases (say, V for Vendetta, CHiPs, and The Wizard) in one place, and conversations about re-releases (say, every movie in Fox's catalogue) in another. Those who must have the newest, bestest version could keep an eye out for intriguing re-releases, while those of us just looking for announcements for forgotten films (or recently released films that're between theaters and home video) could go directly to that forum and avoid having to skim through all of the "Super Extreme edition of ___ on the way" announcements that we couldn't care less about.

It's not something that's particularly necessary, or really even something I'm specifically asking for...so I'm not even that sure why I'm making this post. I just thought it was an interesting idea, if we're looking to specify forum content beyond just "all DVD conversations go here." Meh, nevermind me.

-JP

I think w/o it though there would be even more confusion. It's something we're going to have to play by ear and see how people adapt/are able to work w/ it. We needed some sort of standard to go by and that seemed to be the easiest one to try since it's something everyone can easily see/understand and it's not up to some [even more] arbitrary rule/reasoning.

Here's the thing... I wasn't told about this new sub-forum. I created a new thread titled "Criterion Collection's Equinox (1967/1970): Thoughts" and it was moved to this new sub-forum. Not to sound prudish but I'm not exactly enchanted that the merits of a Criterion edition celebrating a little student cult film of the late sixties will be henceforth debated (or not) by splatter-porn aficionados, gorehounds and schlock connoisseurs who are perhaps more used to discussing the part of the death throes of screen victims they enjoy the most while having dinner. Because, let's face it, that's what "horror film" appreciation has become nowadays and I want no part of this ghetto.

I would rather take my chances with those lovely mutants from The Hills Have Eyes...

I don't know, it's probably safe to say that horror is a MUCH bigger draw than Anime is. Not to put Anime down but I view it more as a 'niche' genre, while horror is much more in the mainstream...and it's currently experiencing a huge surge.

But with that being said, I don't think sub-forums are needed for any particular genres (Horror or Anime) because some films are hard to classify, plus some folks don't even venture outside of the DVDTalk forum in the first place. Not to mention there's already a plethora of forums out there specializing in strictly horror movie discussion. I personally think its better to have everything contained within one forum since DVDTalk covers every genre known to man and it would be impossible to differentiate every single one. But, I've been known to change my mind from time to time...so I'll give it a chance before reserving judgment.

Actually, I've hoped for some time now to see the addition of a "Classic Film & DVD" forum (might have been an appropriate forum for baracine's discussion). It's my perception that classic film discussion is significantly less now than when I first joined the forum. I don't know if that has anything to do or not with what I seem to gather is a growing number of younger members joining the forum. That's all well and good, change is inevitable I suppose. But when it comes to the deluge of classic catalog titles being unleashed every month I wish this site had a forum where sustained discussion was more feasible.

Oh?

Seems to me you'll be right at home.

My quick opinion on the horror sub-folder:

To me, the horror genre is one which a more wide range of people really enjoy. Many people of all ages enjoy certain horror flicks, however graphic and well made the films are.

Just like Chad stated above:

I know that was more than likely a statement as to why there should be a horror sub-folder, but I look at it in a different way. The horror genre is much larger in terms of a main fan base, it's a more "general" genre, especially now with the recent resurgence in horror.

There are also mixtures of horror that, as stated above, could make this new sub-folder a little confusing. Are psychological horror films like Silence of the Lambs allowed to be posted in that folder, or the more general folder? How about films that are sci-fi but also border on horror?

In many cases it's hard to tell one way or the other.

Anyway, this is all leading me to an anime sub-folder. To me, it would make far more sense to have an anime sub-folder than one for horror. It's easy to pick out a straight up anime flick, no matter what the theme or sub-genre that it's a part of. Anime also has a far more exact fan base if you ask me, and it is much more deserved a sub-folder of it's very own for all of those specific anime fans.

Now when we go to the general DVDTalk folder, we might miss a big news thread on an upcoming horror disc, or some other borderline type of film, simply because we're not used to going to that folder. However, for anime, the people who are interested in that sort of thing will know right where to go to for any and all anime news/talk.

I'm not a huge anime fan at all, and I am a huge die hard horror fan. I just think it makes more sense for anime. That's just my take on it.

I will say that I don't like the idea of a whole sub-forum just for horror. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the biggest horror fans around. My main priority in my collecting is horror dvds, just look at my collection link. But, within the context of this site, the sub-forum isn't working too well. Amongst the actual dvd talk, there's alot of generic filler, like "Best blood and guts horror movie? (GORE, GORE, GORE!)" and "Best Zombie Movie Thread". There's nothing wrong with those threads, but before they would be seperated into the Movie Talk and not mixed with actual dvd talk. So right now, it's just a big jumble. The second thing is what I consider horror is not what others think. For instance, I see a Godzilla thread is still active under the main forum. To me, I see a giant ass monster stomping around on people and everything they love as a horror movie, no matter how campy it is. Personally, I say either remove the subforum or streamline it a little better or there'll be even more confusion later on.








I will tell you right now that is not what horror film appreciation has become. I go to very many horror websites and converse with many fans. The majority of them are very intelligent and literate. Many times have I encountered conversations discussing what frightens us and why in films, or analyzing the tougher films such as Kairo. Yes, there are some immature people now and then, but no more than someone going into a Lost in Translation thread and asking "Does Scarlett show her hooters?".

But, let me live up to the cliche for a moment:
Fuck you, you pretentious ass.