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Old 12-20-02, 03:47 PM
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Same here Edit King. I
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It's been horrendously slow for me the past 4 days as well. It's taken an average of 30-45 seconds to load anything on DVDtalk. Just did a tracert and came up with this...

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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tracert www.dvdtalk.com

Tracing route to www.dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 19 ms 29 ms 9 ms 10.97.0.1
2 13 ms 10 ms 11 ms 653210hfc174.tampabay.rr.com[65.32.10.174]
3 29 ms 11 ms 13 ms gsrd-srp00.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.8.228]
4 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms pop2-tby-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.136.185]
5 15 ms 11 ms 12 ms bb1-tby-P0-3.atdn.net [66.185.138.208]
6 29 ms 28 ms 31 ms bb2-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.245]
7 29 ms 28 ms 46 ms 66.185.147.195
8 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms pos8-0.er1.atl4.us.mfnx.net [209.249.119.241]
9 30 ms 58 ms 32 ms so-3-0-0.cr2.atl2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.17]
10 48 ms 46 ms 46 ms so-4-0-0.cr2.lga2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.158]
11 46 ms 49 ms 46 ms core1-lga2-oc48.lga4.above.net [64.124.232.2]
12 3749 ms 3766 ms 3745 ms 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com [64.124.51.186]
13 3753 ms 3775 ms 3812 ms g3-9.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.177]
14 3836 ms 3813 ms 3877 ms p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.86]
15 2429 ms 2400 ms 2378 ms p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.33]
16 2428 ms 2460 ms 2453 ms p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.37]
17 2343 ms 2349 ms 2380 ms g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.158]
18 2416 ms 2452 ms 2392 ms SpeedHost_com.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.31.186]
19 2345 ms 2358 ms 2343 ms dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]

Trace complete.
Seems like once I get to cogentco.com things start to really crawl.
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ok...here's mine. not sure what cogentco is but it doesn't look good.


Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
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D:\>tracert http://www.dvdtalk.com

Tracing route to http://www.dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.38.32.1
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos1-0-nycmnyf-rtr1.nyc.rr.com 24.29.101.81]
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 24-29-101-205.nyc.rr.com [24.29.101.205]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos4-0-nycmnyc-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.98.30]
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos0-0-nycmnyrdc-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.97.17]
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pop1-new-P0-3.atdn.net [66.185.137.13]
7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms bb2-new-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.137.2]
8 10 ms 30 ms 10 ms bb1-nye-P4-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.196]
9 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pop1-nye-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.151.49]
10 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-4-1-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net [209.249.119.245]

11 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-3-0-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net [208.185.0.237]
12 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-0-0-0.cr1.lga2.us.mfnx.net [208.185.0.246]
13 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-2-0-0.pr1.lga4.us.mfnx.net [64.124.232.6]
14 2504 ms 2533 ms 2554 ms 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com [64.124.51.186]
15 2544 ms 2513 ms * g3-9.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.17
7]
16 2493 ms 2514 ms 2543 ms p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.8
6]
17 2082 ms 2083 ms 2093 ms p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.3
3]
18 2183 ms 2173 ms 2183 ms p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.37
]
19 2163 ms 2214 ms 2203 ms g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.
28.5.158]
20 2103 ms 2123 ms 2123 ms SpeedHost_com.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.31.186]

21 2123 ms 2113 ms 2103 ms dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]

Trace complete.

D:\>
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6 <10 ms 16 ms 15 ms 64.161.1.42
7 <10 ms 16 ms 15 ms bb1-p6-3.pxpaca.sbcglobal.net [64.161.1.13]
8 <10 ms <10 ms 15 ms 151.164.89.154
9 <10 ms 15 ms 16 ms p13-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.28.57]
10 63 ms 62 ms 63 ms p14-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.1.33]
11 63 ms 62 ms 63 ms g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.158]
12 63 ms 62 ms 63 ms SpeedHost_com.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.31.186]
13 63 ms 62 ms 63 ms dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]

Trace complete.
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Ok, here's the problem, read these threads...

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...e,rr~mode=flat

http://forums.**************.com/sho...hreadid=337331

As that second thread indicates, Something Awful is having the same problem at the moment (as is anyone website using Congent).

I'm a Roadrunner customer, and in the same boat. 2000 to almost 4000 ms pings through the damn Congent servers.

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Old 12-21-02, 11:10 AM
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Things are getting worse for me .

Microsoft(R) Windows 98
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998.

C:\WINDOWS>tracert http://www.dvdtalk.com

Tracing route to http://www.dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms **
2 18 ms 18 ms 9 ms **
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms **
4 11 ms 7 ms 9 ms pop2-tby-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.136.185]
5 9 ms 8 ms 21 ms bb1-tby-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.136.176]
6 27 ms 28 ms 29 ms bb2-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.245]
7 28 ms 26 ms 25 ms 66.185.147.195
8 28 ms 25 ms 34 ms pos8-0.er1.atl4.us.mfnx.net [209.249.119.241]
9 44 ms 28 ms 33 ms so-3-0-0.cr1.atl2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.13]
10 42 ms 43 ms 43 ms so-4-0-0.cr1.lga2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.166]
11 52 ms 43 ms 44 ms core1-lga2-oc48.lga4.above.net
[64.124.232.6]

12 * 3217 ms 3212 ms 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com [64.124.51.186]
13 * 3234 ms 3180 ms g3-9.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.17
7]
14 * 3225 ms 3222 ms p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.8
6]
15 2397 ms 2335 ms 2364 ms p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.3
3]
16 2146 ms 2138 ms 2131 ms p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.37
]
17 2416 ms 2451 ms 2396 ms g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.
28.5.158]

18 2394 ms 2404 ms 2402 ms SpeedHost_com.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.31.186]

19 2116 ms 2131 ms 2174 ms http://www.dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]


Trace complete.
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1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.1.254
2 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms adsl-67-115-100-105.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.1
15.100.105]
3 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms dist3-vlan50.sntc01.pbi.net [63.203.35.67]
4 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms bb1-g2-0.sntc01.pbi.net [63.203.51.1]
5 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms 64.161.1.42
6 20 ms 10 ms 20 ms bb1-p5-3.pxpaca.sbcglobal.net [64.161.1.45]
7 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms 151.164.89.154
8 20 ms 20 ms 11 ms p13-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.28.
57]
9 60 ms 70 ms 60 ms p14-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.1
33]
10 70 ms 60 ms 80 ms g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.
28.5.158]
11 70 ms 61 ms 70 ms SpeedHost_com.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.31.186]

12 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms dvdtalk.com [66.28.225.25]

cogentco seems fine from my end. What would cause some people to have larger times than others?
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Originally posted by Copenhagen
cogentco seems fine from my end. What would cause some people to have larger times than others?
It appears you and I, coming from our particular ISPs and Bay Area location are hitting Cogentco through a different router. The problem one seems to be 64.124.51.186 and we miss that one.
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That make sense, thanks X.
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We've been impacted by two big problems lately.

1) There was a bum switch which was causing the site to slow down
2) There have been major issues with an upstream provider

The switch that was causing issues has been completely replaced, and we've been addressing the issues with the upstream provider.

The switch issue was something that just happens, but the upstream one is bad. So we've begun the process of having our hosting guy talk to other upstream providers about service. Perhaps moving the connection from Cogent to another provider (but keeping our hosting provider who is really great)
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Originally posted by Electric2k
Ok, here's the problem, read these threads...

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...e,rr~mode=flat

http://forums.**************.com/sho...hreadid=337331

As that second thread indicates, Something Awful is having the same problem at the moment (as is anyone website using Congent).

I'm a Roadrunner customer, and in the same boat. 2000 to almost 4000 ms pings through the damn Congent servers.
Thanks for the links. I am a Road Runner user.

Not only is DVDtalk really slow but that other web site I posted earlier in this thread. I was in the process of d/ling maps for Medal of Honor, but can't any longer till this issue is resolved.
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Originally posted by gkleinman
We've been impacted by two big problems lately.

1) There was a bum switch which was causing the site to slow down
2) There have been major issues with an upstream provider

The switch that was causing issues has been completely replaced, and we've been addressing the issues with the upstream provider.

The switch issue was something that just happens, but the upstream one is bad. So we've begun the process of having our hosting guy talk to other upstream providers about service. Perhaps moving the connection from Cogent to another provider (but keeping our hosting provider who is really great)
Thanks for the update, Geoff. I hope you can work this problem out. I spoke with Roadrunner at length today - they are disavowing all responsibility for the problem and pointing the finger at Cogentco. Anyway, until it is resolved, I am having serious DVDtalk withdrawal - you don't realize how much you depend on something until it's gone (or severely degraded).
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any updates on the slowdown? this is really unbearable...my last 9 hops are all between 2000-3000ms.
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I sent an email to [email protected] several hours ago and now my tracert #s are down to 300-500 ms.

Doubt it had anything to do with my email, but that's much more acceptable.
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I'm fine through cogentco...

Just thought to point out the folder icons, specifically, aren't loading up when I load a page.

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I'm having all kinds of problems today Very few images working. Site's slow (slower than the usual slowness I've been dealing with lately). argh!

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Originally posted by The Bus
I'm fine through cogentco...

Just thought to point out the folder icons, specifically, aren't loading up when I load a page.

Same here. The image server is not happening. Tracert is fine. All hops are fast. And many images are okay.

But the ads.kleinman.com/images folder is very slow
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Well, it's still hosed in my neck of the woods. It's been this way solid for over a week now.

traceroute to www.dvdtalk.com (66.28.225.25), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.104.144.1 (10.104.144.1) 9.064 ms 16.085 ms 7.927 ms
2 he6-central-gsrb-srp10.cfl.rr.com (24.95.224.39) 9.874 ms 8.329 ms 7.982 ms
3 he5-central-gsrd-srp40.cfl.rr.com (24.95.224.10) 7.81 ms 9.223 ms 8.33 ms
4 pop1-tby-p0-2.atdn.net (66.185.136.173) 26.345 ms 31.596 ms 17.36 ms
5 bb1-tby-p0-2.atdn.net (66.185.136.164) 16.406 ms 14.83 ms 21.13 ms
6 bb2-atm-p7-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.245) 34.066 ms 33.161 ms 34.767 ms
7 66.185.147.195 (66.185.147.195) 43.501 ms 31.316 ms 32.836 ms
8 pos8-0.er1.atl4.us.mfnx.net (209.249.119.241) 31.54 ms 32.88 ms 35.733 ms
9 so-3-0-0.cr2.atl2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.17) 41.871 ms 33.096 ms 32.615 ms
10 so-4-0-0.cr2.lga2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.158) 48.002 ms 48.833 ms 50.356 ms
11 core1-lga2-oc48.lga4.above.net (64.124.232.2) 49.635 ms 49.575 ms 75.247 ms
12 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com (64.124.51.186) 3540.74 ms 3591.42 ms 3572.05 ms
13 g3-9.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.177) 3518.57 ms 3628.26 ms 3439.74 ms
14 p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.86) 3429.45 ms 3456.8 ms 3498.03 ms
15 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) 2238.42 ms 2250.43 ms 2291.55 ms
16 p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) 2364.11 ms 2397.84 ms 2414.11 ms
17 g50.ba01.b000326-0.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.158) 2404.28 ms 2380.89 ms 2415.77 ms
18 speedhost_com.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.186) 2258.33 ms 2224.54 ms 2213.06 ms
19 dvdtalk.com (66.28.225.25) 2200.13 ms 2217.81 ms 2225.04 ms
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Image problem is not a problem here at work.
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And...it's slow again. Sigh.
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[Thanks for the suggestion but we really don't want to encourge this method. -X]
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Originally posted by Blade
And...it's slow again. Sigh.
I think the site's speed is fluctuating due to traffic. In the morning it is the high hunderds or low thousands due to low traffic, but in the evening it slows down big time due to everyone surfing.

Originally posted by The Bus
I'm fine through cogentco...

Just thought to point out the folder icons, specifically, aren't loading up when I load a page.

Reading those articles provided above it states the problem is affecting AOL & Road Runner users, but it seems logical it could be causing other problems for other users by some means.
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Wow. I must have been a good boy. It's not up to broadband standards yet, but I don't feel like I am on a 14.4 modem any longer.
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Well, it's working for me... now.

But for the past week it'll work in the morning, again, and when I get back in the afternoon, it's not working anymore. So I'm not holding my breath for it to be working in the afternoon.
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RR here...

It's been bad for me every day for the past 2 weeks. 64.124.11.181 still returns 4-digit times, and though it's about half what it was last week, I really don't see any difference in the performance.


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