There is just way to much garbage in the Other right now. Thank god that there is a music forum because 99% of those threads would be lost within minutes if they were still in "otter". Please make the Sports Forum happen

Other is too crowded with messages - a certain indicator something needs to spin off.

While we're at it, I would like to start a petition for a "Bodily Functions" forum.

if there is anything that belongs in other, that is it

I think "Bodily Functions" should go where Sports goes. Pretty much the same thing, just one is a little more organized. Both are physical activities, often require practice, and attract viewers when performed in public.

so this hypothetical sports forum...would it be sports only, or sports and entertainment?

Only sports. There's already TV, Music, Movie etc. forums.

Or are you just beating a dead horse with the argument of whether stuff like Pro Wrestling is a sport? If so, I'm pretty sure that stuff was discussed earlier in the thread.

I would think this would illustrate my point. Let's say I have a refrigerator. Now, one day, I notice that I've got so much stuff in the freezer section that I can't find what I need to find, and it's starting to spill over into the refrigerator section, where it definately doesn't belong. So, I buy a very large freezer, and move most of the stuff that was formerly in the refrigerator freezer into the big freezer.

Now, one day I come home, and I have something I know belongs in the big freezer, but I want my wife (who never opens the big freezer) to see it. So, I put it in the refrigerator freezer. Now, it doesn't belong there, but I need it there for a specific reason. If my hypothetical kid comes along ten minutes later and moves it "where it belongs", I'm going to be upset.
Well, if it's not going to change anything, this will be the last I say on the topic. It's not that big of deal to me, it just came up, and it's one of the few complaints I have around here.

I can see it getting out of hand, and at the same time, I can see good reasons for seomeone to post a thread that might belong in another forum. In my world, things are more shades of grey than blacks and whites, and I like to use discretion to make decisions. But, that is a hard thing to do on an internet forum.

And, you're making a good point with the fact that I don't see the emails. I used to moderate another board, and one thing that users tend to forget is that they only see part of the picture.

I guess in the end, I don't like inflexible rules. I think rules that take personal judgement completely out of the equation (zero tolerance) lead to some questionable results.

i think people are getting the current Other forum confused with the golden days of the other forum

8 pages ? what a load of hogwash!

i check the Other each morning and there's now rarely more than 2-3 pages of new threads. Most of my threads from the previous day are in the first or second page!

not exactly hard to find!

i've never understood the incompetence of people who complain about 'losing' their threads in the other, maybe you guys need to get your eyes and brains checked

is it me.. or even though the large majority of votes, have been in favor of a sports forum.. it seems that the majority of the people opposed, are ones that never post in sports threads anyways

Hard to say about the *votes*... but, it's only logical that the people uninterestered in sports would be the ones who least believe there is a need for a Sports Forum. Obviously it's a generalization, but there's probably some truth to it.

It seems to me that most of the people with no interest in sports would want such threads to be excised from Other. Those with a passing interest (like myself), would never bother to read the threads if they were in another forum, so they might be more inclined to want them to stay.

True. I voted no even though I post in sports threads, only because this seems to me like a silly cause which then leads to being a moderator.

I'm not real sure what you mean by this. If you are referring to moderation of the new forum, it is most likely that AndyCapps and I would be filling that function if the forum is added. So, from the point of moderating it if it's created, we don't expect it to be a problem.

Are you saying that some people are championing the cause just in the hopes of becoming a moderator?

Great ... I was wondering what superficial motivation prompted people to vote against this. It would get crowded with 180+ moderators, don't you think? It seems like such a win/win solution for everyone, that I don't see why anyone wouldn't be in favor of it (other than to spite those who are).

das

if your talking about me.. the thought had not crossed my mind.. i think its safe to assume that andy and dead could handle it (I mention those two, because they are both already moderators and pretty active in the sports threads). I personally, would like a sports forum for my own greedy reasons, but those reasons dont include aspirations of being a moderator, but more along the lines that I would enjoy being less restricted when it comes to discussing sports with everyone else here.

That, and the fact that when big sports events roll around (like the Superbowl), we won't be clogging up the Other Forum's front page with sports-related threads.

I'm just surprised that a) this is still around and b) 69.23% agree with me.

I don't even like sports.

Anyway, back to making sheep puppets.

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I'm not. Despite the lack of a logical argument against it, we'll never have a Sports Forum. I don't know how many times this issue has been brought up, but it just keeps getting dropped. Six months from now we'll talk about it again to no avail. It's not like I'm going to stop posting because of it or anything; it just seems like it would benefit everyone on the forum. So many interesting discussions never take place because sports is suffocated by Otter. Oh well. At least Geoff activated the Ignore feature. I cannot tell you how valuable that has turned out to be.

das

Say it ain't so das, say it ain't so

Oh.. did das post in this thread?

I realize that Sports is way off topic for this site, which makes it tough to justify adding a sports forum. However, Other is already completely off topic, so why not just make sports a sub-forum of Other? Then you just have an off topic sub forum to an already off topic forum, rather than adding another seperate off topic forum.

Making it a subforum has been discussed. But that brings up some issues.

If Sports is a subforum because it's off topic, shouldn't books also be? What about Video Games? TV?

And if they are all subforums, how will that impact the main page on then Other Forum?

People complain now when we get 3-4 stickies because of the screen real estate they occupy. If you view the Other Forum with a few subforums and a couple stickies, your space available for actual threads on page 1 would be scant.

Does not mean it should not happen or that we should or should not make an exception for just one subforum. But those are some of the issues.

Not including this current statement, I've found that when I make definitive declarative statements about things that are out of my direct control, the opposite invariably happens. Sometimes, the cruelty of the Universe can be twisted in your favor. And so I say again, we will never have a Sports Forum. Did you hear me, cruel master of fate? We ... will ... never ... have ... a ... Sports ... Forum. This is an incontravertable fact.

das

P.S. You can thank me later.