broadwayblue

what happened to the poll? is it over? if so, what were the final results?

AndyCapps

It's still here http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=197012

it's just spent enough time as a sticky.

twikoff

or you can always check my signature

Josh H

And now we can have decent discussions on all those topics as we can start seperate threads, rather than having one and only's, and they stay on the front page for a couple days rather than being bumped off in under an hour by sex threads, advice threads, and lame poll threads.

Those are the same benefits that the sports forum would bring about for sports discussions.

As for what's left in other, everything else. It seems most of the regulars enjoy the polls, jokes, advice threads, etc. so it should do just fine. I don't think the number of posts would go down much at all. You'd just be losing the sports threads.

gcribbs

why do you think some wanted the subjects stripped- they figured it would kill Other. or at least damage it a bunch.

some just do not like the Other forum and feel that it has no place on dvdtalk.

RJainMJ

I strongly disagree with you on that. Perhaps a few feel this way, but in no way do the majority feel this way. I really enjoy music and video game threads and I was in support of them being their own forums. Why? Because these threads barely lasted. I almost felt stupid creating a video game thread when the first couple topics are all joke, advice, etc. threads.

But that does mean I want to "kill" Other?? Not the slighest. Other forum is very fun and interesting to read, but it can't possibly hold all the topics that interest me. Music and video games fell under topics that Other can't hold for a very long time and I believe Sports does as well. Other is just fine the way it is. There are only a handful of sports threads in Other, but, as I said earlier, it would be logical that there would be several more. I'm hoping that a Sports forum will be created, but, without a doubt, I will continue to visit the Other forum on a daily basis.

Josh H

That's not true at all. I dislike other, but I don't want it to go away. I simply wnated the other subjects in their own forum, so as to faciltate discussion on them.

There were hardly any posts on video games before as the threads would fall like stones. Now they have their own forum, and there is a ton of good discussion in it. Same is true for the other topics that have gotten their own forum, and the same would be true for sports.

But I definitely don't want other to die. I don't like it at all, but tons of people love it and that's all that matters.

As long as the majority of the people posting it the sports threads would prefer having a specific forum to do it in, then there's no reason not to start one. Obviously, the people not posting in them won't miss them in other. Many will be happy to not have them cluttering up the front page around every major sporting event.

Of course Geoff could say it's just too off topic. In that case perhaps it could be a sub forum of other.

twikoff

I agree with all the arguements so far......


except the ones against a sports forum

bears35

I too would love to see a sports forum. What exactly is preventing it?

broadwayblue

so when will the new sports forum be opened?

BearFan

*COUGH* Sports Forum *COUGH*

AgtFox

This week would be a great week for a Sports Forum. The NFL Draft is on Saturday and someone already started a thread and it seems to be falling down Other quite quickly. Sure, people will bump it up, but it will invaribly fall and someone else will create another thread about it.

The thing is I don't want to post in that thread because of the fact that there will be no huge discussion about it and it will drop off into the nether regions of Other. However if it was in a Sports Forum I would feel more open to posting to it because it wouldn't fall off the front page more than likely.

einTier

This is one thing I do hate. I understand moving threads from say, "TV Talk" because it doesn't deal with TV, but I don't understand moving threads out of other.

There are times when I post threads in other just because I know I'll get a response there, and I don't have time to wait for it to be answered in the "correct" forum. The other people don't seem to mind threads that don't belong, because other is a catch-all anyway -- and I can't tell you how many times I see "please don't move this thread". Whoever posted it in other wanted it there for some reason, and there's no good compelling reason to move it.

AndyCapps

What's the point in having other forums if people can just throw whatever they want into Other? Would you rather have threads that fit somewhere else either closed or deleted when they are put in Other? When a thread is moved, a redirect is left so if someone happens open it in the wrong forum, they will still see it. If we were to leave every thread that says "please don't move this thread" in Other, we might as well close the rest of the General forums. Other is where something goes when there is not another place for it. If there is a place for it, it should either be posted there, or it will be moved there.

Josh H

Exactly.

Josh H

Plus the NHL playoffs are getting ready to start, followed shortly by the NBA playoffs, baseball is on, and college football spring practices are also wrapping up.


That's exactly my opinion. I just don't waste my time with other anymore, even though I enjoyed many of the sports threads. They either fall of the front page, or have to much crap in them because it's a one and only thread, to allow any decent discussions to occur.

twikoff

ok.. you guys have convinced me

a sports forum is a good idea



btw... I know its been mentioned.. but not really discussed..
can you have the advertisements customized per forum.. so that a sports forum could have sports specific advertisements (we would be fine with non popup casino ads too, since those seem to be the big money makers).. and how about sports related affiliate links

BearFan

Yeah .. Ticketmaster would seem to be a good link, do they pay for tickets bought?

Josh H

Ticketmaster is a monopoly. They're not going to pay anyone for anything. Besides, they don't need to advertise. To get tickets for a sporting event, concert, etc. in one of their venues you have no choice but to order from them, scalpers aside.

einTier

I'm under the impression that Other people don't mind the mismash of threads in their forum (I know I don't), as that's part of what makes Other so great -- but the other forums are so that people who want to talk about, say, music, can find those threads pretty easily. If you notice, it seems to be the people who frequent other forums who don't want non-related threads in their forum, while it's the rare Other to seriously say "this really doesn't belong here."

I would rather threads that fit somewhere else left in Other when they are posted there, unless the original poster mentions that they would like them to be moved. I don't understand the inflexibility here. I understand why a DVD thread in the Video Games section doesn't belong, but I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't talk about DVDs in Other if I so choose. Or, why I can't say "I need some computer help right now" in other and get it. I've done that before, and luckily, I got the answer I needed before it was moved to the Computer forum, where it promptly died. Sure, leaving a redirect is nice, but that redirect slowly falls down the page, and if you were hoping someone in Other would see it and could help, the chances of that happening start becoming very slim.

I don't think allowing threads that belong elsewhere into other would kill the other forums, because for the most part, I think people don't want to post those threads in Other. But, I've seen too many times where someone felt it nessessary to post it in Other (where basically anything goes) for one reason or another, and beg the moderators to leave it there. ...which of course never happens. Apparently, they knew the rules, they knew where it should be posted, and they still posted it in Other, because they needed the responses from other, or the sheer number of eyeballs it draws in.

After thinking about it for a while, I'm really not against the Sports Talk forum, though I do still think it's unnessessary and follows a trend I'm not sure I like. I'm wondering, are we going to just keep splitting other off until there's nothing left to talk about there except Jack's post count? And, are the rules really that inflexible, that once a forum is split off, those topics can never again be posted in Other?

twikoff

ok hijackers.. go move your discussion on thread moving to another thread

Static Cling

Moving thread to Thread Moving Forum.

AndyCapps

Yes. The point of splitting the topics off is that they now have their own home. So from that point forward, topics that belong there go there. I wouldn't call it "inflexible", I'd say that it's just plain common sense. In most homes, you have a refrigerator where things that need to be kept cold go, and you might have a pantry where you throw everything else into. You bring home a fresh carton of milk, it goes in the refrigerator. If you forget to put it there, hopefully someone else will.

I'd hate to see what would happen if we suddenly allowed threads that belong somewhere else in Other as long as they say, "please keep this in Other"(PKTIO for short). I could see us having threads like:

What did you think of AOTC(PKTIO)?
Why won't my PC boot(PKTIO)?
Who bought the Deftones new CD(PKTIO)?
What Otters watch Dawson's Creek(PKTIO)?
I can't wait for the AOTC DVD(PKTIO)

Nearly every time someone posts a thread in Other that doesn't belong there, you'll see "IBTM", "wrong forum", and "there is a Computer Forum(or TV forum) you know" posts. What you don't see is the emails the moderators get reporting that the thread should be moved. Just because someone says something like, "please leave this here" or "I know this doesn't belong here, but..." doesn't mean the thread shouldn't be moved. Actually, that's worse because the poster is admitting that they know that they are posting in the wrong place.

twikoff's right, this issue should really be split into it's own thread if it needs further discussion. But honestly, nothing is going to change the fact that threads will be moved to their proper forum if there is one. So if you want to still be able to discuss sports in Other, you should be against the creation of a Sports Forum. If you want to discuss video games, music, books, DVDs, computers, or bargains in Other, their forums would have to be abolished first.

twikoff

since you guys dont seem to want to get this talk out of my sports thread Ill join in

in my experience, anyone that says "please dont move this thread", is just indicating that they know that they are putting the thread in the wrong area, and for some reason, think it should get some sort of special treatment.. although, I guess if everyone used a PKTIO tag, it would make life much easier for the mods.. then they could quickly see that the thread didnt belong and go ahead and move it

Josh H

Posts need to go in their proper forums, end of story. There's already too many posts in other for the average person, who only checks the forum once or twice a day, to keep up with. This is the main reason that we've had the splitoffs. It makes it easy for the average members to keep up on the topics they like to discuss. If all this stuff was still in other, the average member would have to spend an hour or so skimming through 8 pages or so of posts in Other during their one time of reading the forum each day. With the seperate forums, they can glance through a page to 1/2 a page of new posts in a couple of forums in 10 minutes or less.

The bottom line is that these forums need to cater to the average users, not the minority of "otters" who spend several hours a day reading the Other forum.