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Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)

Old 09-24-18, 02:27 PM
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

List looks great! I can't wait to begin!
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

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Select 30 of the following sub-genres / types:
--- Nation of Origin: Korea -
--- K-Horror -
On the checklist this seems to be a duplicate - 'K-horror' and 'Nation of Origin: Korea' are the same thing, right?
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On the checklist this seems to be a duplicate - 'K-horror' and 'Nation of Origin: Korea' are the same thing, right?
Good catch. Just changed it to Thailand. I was gonna call it 'T-horror', but I don't think that's a thing.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

Man, I really hate to do this to y'all, but whenever I paste that checklist into Excel, it tries to make those 3 dashes as part of a calculation. It plugs an equals sign before the 3 minuses, and things go off the rails from there. Does anyone know how to mass paste these in and get around that?
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Originally Posted by WillieMLF View Post
Man, I really hate to do this to y'all, but whenever I paste that checklist into Excel, it tries to make those 3 dashes as part of a calculation. It plugs an equals sign before the 3 minuses, and things go off the rails from there. Does anyone know how to mass paste these in and get around that?
I pasted it okay into my Excel. Perhaps first set the column/s where you are going to paste it to to the Text format? Then it shouldn't try to do anything with the characters you put in there.
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Chad, your copy-and-past list of themes and subset films has Horrorspondents (Tenebrae) and Werewolves (Silver Bullet) swapped. Just thought that I'd let you know.

For what it's worth, I'm still on the fence about participating this year; call it burnout, if you will. Still, those prize packs from GoldenWheels may just lure me back, if only in a limited way.
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Rbrown, I hope you are in this year and that you go for the gusto.
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Checklist suggestion - 'watch three or more films in a series" could be expanded to include three or more films by the same director and/or writer. Those might not be connected by content but could be thematically related, etc.
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow View Post
Rbrown, I hope you are in this year and that you go for the gusto.
Thanks, Cow! I hate to not participate, but job stress is taking its toll, and I don't think that I can add this on top of that. I'm still debating, though...we'll see.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

Originally Posted by rbrown498 View Post
Chad, your copy-and-past list of themes and subset films has Horrorspondents (Tenebrae) and Werewolves (Silver Bullet) swapped. Just thought that I'd let you know.

For what it's worth, I'm still on the fence about participating this year; call it burnout, if you will. Still, those prize packs from GoldenWheels may just lure me back, if only in a limited way.
Thanks for catching that. It was a bit of a mad dash the day it went up, and I'm honestly surprised more mistakes weren't made.

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Rbrown, I hope you are in this year and that you go for the gusto.
Ditto.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

And in the off chance anyone missed it, the finalized checklist is up. Don't think I mentioned it.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

One more order or business before closing up shop here, and I'm carrying this over from the discussion thread--subset wild cards. Instead of doing the traditional voting we'll just go the with giving feedback like was done with the checklist decades. And all previous discussion from the other thread is duly noted.

Originally Posted by jholmes View Post
I was reading over last year's planning thread, and I saw a discussion between Trevor and a few others that I wanted to raise again.

Trevor was arguing that there should be some wildcard leeway for subset picks:



The discussion went on from there. Here's a link:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/13148873-post405.html

On the con side was the concern that not enough people participate in the subset movie discussion threads as it is, so giving leeway there might dampen participation further. Trevor argued that it should *help* participation since it's currently and all-or-nothing deal, which might make people just give up and not do the subset.

Another argument against the change ran along the lines of "it's supposed to be hard."

I wanted to raise this discussion again, for what's worth. You can all ignore me since I'm a relative newbie (last year was my first Oct and Christmas challenge). But my thoughts on good reasons to allow a wildcard to two with the subset list is:

1. Just watched it. I watch a ton of horror. I don't mind rewatching films I haven't seen in a while. But if I *just watched* a movie, I don't want to watch it again. So my options are to give up on the checklist because of that one movie -OR- put it on and half ass watch it just to get it checked off (which is the sort of grunt work that's just dumb).

2. Some people may have a strong reason not to watch one movie. For example, some people will simply never watch Martyrs or Wolf Creek because "torture-porn". Or they may have a reason they will never watch a certain actor, or they legit get panic attacks over spiders or whatever.

I think Trevor has a good point that if people decide they can't/won't watch one or two movies on the subset list, they may give up on it entirely and simply do their own thing. This decreases participation for all the other subset movies. Even with 2 wildcards, there are 29 movies you'd have to watch on the subset list, which is still quite a challenge and will push people to watch movies they wouldn't have picked for themselves.

SUBSET RULE SUGGESTION:
2 subset wildcards where you can sub 1 or 2 movies from this year's subset list with another film from past year's subset lists -or- the Criterion/Comedy picks.

We have that great list of past years' picks. Would be nice to use it for something like this.

ETA: Since there are already 3 wildcards (for watching non-horror or watching shorter episodes), this could be added an an option under those same 3 wildcards so that the number of wildcards stays the same? If people want it harder.
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Hey, that was my suggestion. Trevor suggested the following change to it, which I agree to. It makes it less broad:

UPDATED SUBSET RULE SUGGESTION:
2 subset wildcards where you can sub 1 or 2 movies from this year's subset list with the Criterion and/or Comedy picks.


ETA: If we're voting, I vote yes.
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I think that means jholmes' suggestions made the cut, nice.
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Thanks, Cow! I hate to not participate, but job stress is taking its toll, and I don't think that I can add this on top of that. I'm still debating, though...we'll see.
My own thought is that the horror challenge is a nice diversion from work stress; it's a good chance to try to dodge work and watch horror movies instead. I think that's one of the reasons I most lost forward to it every year as a break from the mundane usual details of life where you have to put get everything else done and then see if there's time for a break.

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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

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One more order or business before closing up shop here, and I'm carrying this over from the discussion thread--subset wild cards. Instead of doing the traditional voting we'll just go the with giving feedback like was done with the checklist decades. And all previous discussion from the other thread is duly noted.
Has this been decided or are you still looking for feedback, because I think substitions go against the spirit of the subset challenge.
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Has this been decided or are you still looking for feedback, because I think substitions go against the spirit of the subset challenge.
I think Trevor has a very valid point regarding a 'completionist' who wants to check every theme night movie. My attempt to get everything done has more to do with my OCD than anything. If I missed the very last theme night movie, I would be a little disappointed, but in totality, I watched 30 movies and that really isn't too shabby. Do we really do attempt any of the challenges to get prizes or bragging rights? I think most people here, just really enjoy the community of the challenge and/or like horror.

I would just leave it as it is. Substitutions really do go against the spirit. If you're doing it for the prize then your head is in the wrong place. I REALLY didn't want to re-watch The Martyrs last year, but I did. I think the theme night conversation was one of the most enlightening conversations I've seen in a long while. That has stuck with me for an entire year, and I have a higher appreciation for the movie. I'm not sure I would want to watch it every year though.
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I think substitutions go against the spirit of the subset list. No one is requiring people do every subset film after all. Myself, I just try to get one thing in for the theme a day. If I miss a theme night, Iím not upset.
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I think substitutions go against the spirit of the subset list. No one is requiring people do every subset film after all. Myself, I just try to get one thing in for the theme a day. If I miss a theme night, Iím not upset.
Same. As many movies as Iím able to watch, It would just get too tiresome for me to binge on one theme. Props to those who are able to do it!
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I think substitutions go against the spirit of the subset list. No one is requiring people do every subset film after all. Myself, I just try to get one thing in for the theme a day. If I miss a theme night, Iím not upset.
My feelings exactly. It's all supposed to just be a fun challenge. Sometimes we aren't able to meet every challenge in life; that doesn't mean we should make it easier.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 14: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

And I instantly regret posting whatever that was late last night.

Anyway, I have my answer. No changes.

EDIT: Looks like we're done in here. Big thanks to everyone that helped.


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