Forgive me if I missed it in this year's discussion, but have we already listed the items that would count for crossover Challenge double credit with animation August and Horror October? The two lists shouldn't be too unmanageable to make and update yearly and cut-n-paste into each year's threads.

We probably have done this in at least one past discussion thread. If I have a slow day at work I'll try to find it.

I only have a bicycle, and my nearest library is a small farm town library about 3 miles away.

Someone should probably audit this, but here's what I've pieced together offhand. This includes LaserDisc titles, but not HuluPlus.

Which King Kong is eligible? I own the 1933 version.

That'd be the one. 'Twas LaserDisc #002.

Cool, another DVD in my limited selection available for this Challenge. I have King Kong, Robocop, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Ghostbusters, Gojira, Godzilla King of the Monsters, Cat People, and Halloween. Used to have Life of Brian, but use got it too scratched up to play anymore, and used to have Dazed and Confused, but the binder it is in, is missing.

I picked up THE LIFE OF OHARU and UGETSU in the recent B&N 50% off Criterion sale. UGETSU's chief extra is a feature-length documentary on Mizoguchi directed by Kaneto Shindo.

While Mizoguchi is a great director, I happen to place him in the top ten of Japanese directors rather than the top five. I tend to like Mikio Naruse better and think his films about women are emotionally richer than Mizoguchi's. Mizoguchi keeps too much of an artistic distance for my tastes and can get preachy at times. I'd also put Masaki Kobayashi (THE HUMAN CONDITION) over Mizoguchi. Mizoguchi is to Ozu, Kurosawa and Naruse the way, say Elia Kazan is to John Ford, Orson Welles and Billy Wilder when it comes to my Hollywood pantheon. Great director and Kazan's best films (e.g. STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE, EAST OF EDEN) are superb, but there's such a love of filmmaking that permeates every frame of Ford and Welles that even guys like Kazan and William Wyler (another great director) are overshadowed by them. In fact, for a whole set of different reasons, too complicated to go into now, I find myself thinking of Mizoguchi and Wyler as counterparts.

But Mizoguchi's films are important and all worth seeing, esp. that "Fallen Women" Eclipse set that you cite, which I watched for the 2011 Challenge. I was amazed to see so much location shooting and sync-sound recording in his 1930s movies, OSAKA ELEGY and SISTERS OF THE GION, which are, quite possibly, my favorite Mizoguchi movies.

So, are there NO selections that can crossover Animation and Criterion? I guess, if you're liberal you could count Holy Grail?

^ Much of the By Brakhage set counts.

Can't get a hold of that by tomorrow. I guess I should have asked the question sooner!
Thanks though.

At the top of my cobbled-together list, you'll see Akira listed for Animation.

Thanks, Travis. I just saw the question from Trevor, but it's one that I wouldn't want to touch. Each year, I feel confused about what counts for the Horror Challenge and what doesn't. I feel lucky to host one with easily defined guidelines.

Really looking forward to tomorrow evening...not sure what I'm going to cue up first.

I've been chomping at the bit for horror, so probably one of the horror Criterions.

Have you seen House or Cronos?

Like I said, someone should audit that list to make sure that 1) everything on it is eligible (paging Chad...paging Chad...!) and that 2) it's complete.

TV on DVD* is pretty clear, but Historical Appreciation is so frustrating that I have host envy!

I was looking forward to starting early (I hit my wall with Animation awhile ago), but now it seems I'm going to have my niece spend the night tomorrow. I think Criterion is gonna have to wait until Sunday for me.

No.

Out of curiosity, I checked Hulu, and I saw both Cronos and at least one of the Zatoichi movies started playing. So unless my Hulu Plus Sub started again and I didn't know or forgot, those movies are free.

Hehe! Yeah, the discussion surrounding the Historical Appreciation challenge gets pretty intense. And every year I've participated, I've felt bad for you since you have to navigate and facilitate the discussion. My philosophy is to keep (relatively) quiet, do my best to follow the rules, and hope no one yells at me.

I may be in the same type of predicament. I'm taking an impromptu trip to my parents' house this weekend so my days will be pretty stuffed. I'm hoping to sneak off to one of the television in the house to get in some views. Unfortunately, my family does not care for foreign or art house films. I did show my parents The Royal Tenenbaums when I got the BD, but I made sure to carefully set it up before we watched. They really enjoyed it (or at least told me they did), and Dad said he appreciated my disclaimer, so I may use that tactic to get them to watch something!

There's a good selection of Criterions that are not foreign or art house films.

I haven't looked at Hulu in at least 6 months, but noticed a charge for it on my credit card bill yesterday. Shenanigans!

I'm going to pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans!.


Seriously, that's why I normally use gift cards for hulu plus. Can't be renewed.

Virtual Credit Cards are also good choices to keep merchants from pulling those type shenanigans...

Very true. I've just planned on getting a foreign-film-fix! I do plan to watch Traffic and Something Wild which may be films Dad and my brother would enjoy.

I'll get the broom.

I was just in a silly mood and was quoting Super Troopers

I don't know how many other Bergman movies are on Youtube, but I found at least two. The Virgin Spring, and The Seventh Seal are both on Youtube.