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Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
^ not to be a kill joy, but I don't think non-Criterion commissioned supplement material is game for this challenge. but hey that's just my opinion
you should give the King Kong commentary on the laserdisc a spin, it's more informative (and different) than the commentary on the BD edition. |
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11376944)
^ not to be a kill joy, but I don't think non-Criterion commissioned supplement material is game for this challenge. but hey that's just my opinion
you should give the King Kong commentary on the laserdisc a spin, it's more informative (and different) than the commentary on the BD edition. Thanks for the tip on the laser commentary. I'll track it down. |
Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11373371)
The question is, if the ending is so awful that they turned it off, how did they see the ending?
Originally Posted by tellybox
(Post 11376004)
See, I went into [High Noon] knowing little to nothing (I pictured it to be a cliche ridden western). It wasn't until after that I read about the John Wayne comments and such.
Have you ever revisited it, MinLShaw? Oh, and I'm Travis, BTW. :) |
Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
I hit the library earlier yesterday. I'm planning to go see Raiders of the Lost Ark in IMAX with some friends later today, so it seemed as good a time as any to finally sit down with Kakushi-toride no san-akunin [The Hidden Fortress]. It's one of the several Criterion Collection DVDs they have. Here's my review, as posted on Letterboxd.
SPOILER ALERT FOR ANYONE READING E-MAILS Spoiler:
Kakushi-toride no san-akunin [The Hidden Fortress] -X- 1950s (1958) -X- Language (Japanese) -X- Top 10 Director (Akira Kurosawa) -X- Themes (Originals, Samurai Cinema) -X- Spine Range 101-150 (#116) -X- Read an essay (The Hidden Fortress by David Ehrenstein, 1987; The Hidden Fortress by Armond White, 2001) -X- Watch a Criterion disc completely. Every part of it. |
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Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is a subtle film with pointed social commentary and humor, too bad there's no commentary (which might defeat the purpose).
On to The Element of Crime, which is so far perhaps too experimental. |
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After flying through a couple of shorter films, I got the bright idea to start the 5-hour television version of Scenes of a Marriage last night. My intention is to watch it like a television mini-series (an episode or two each night). So far, one episode in, and it's Bergman doing what he does best. A heartbreaking work already with brutal honesty about human relationships. I don't think I'll be regretting the 299 minutes.
Originally Posted by Undeadcow
(Post 11377075)
Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is a subtle film with pointed social commentary and humor, too bad there's no commentary (which might defeat the purpose).
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Had a great time devouring most of spine #562 last night.
Blow Out Been putting off watching this for years. Loved it, but then, I seem to like almost everything Depalma does. Really impressed by Travolta here. More after I finish the disc. Murder a la Mod Saw this years ago on a Something Weird disc, and never imagined that I'd see it next via a Criterion blu-ray! |
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I watched House of Games. What a great movie! Mamet brings the viewer on Margaret's journey through a world of trickery and sleaze.
Spoiler:
I am also more than halfway done with the checklist. If I keep up my pace, I may complete it by the end of the week. |
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Secret of the Grain was decent enough. It had it's slow moments but overall it was worth a watch, even if the ending was easily seen a mile away.
Watched The Honeymoon Killers yesterday. It was interesting to see the lady I knew as the snoopy neighbor from Pee-Wee's Playhouse in a role like this. |
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After a few days I was finally able to get back to the challenge. Last night I screened Three Colors: Blue. This was my first viewing and my only previous experience with Kieslowski was The Double Life of Veronique (which I've been meaning to revisit for some time).
First off, Blue is a gorgeous film, but that was no surprise considering Kieslowski was working with cinematographer Sławomir Idziak, who was the cinematographer on the similarly beautiful Veronique. What did surprise me was how wonderful the audio was. This may sound crazy, but this was probably the best audio experience I've had at home since I upgraded my sound system last winter. For those who haven't seen the film, Juliette Binoche plays a woman who loses her composer husband and young daughter in a car accident and subsequently attempts to live her life void of any further emotional attachments. At the time of his death, her husband was composing a new piece of music and throughout the film there are scenes when Julie (Binoche's character) has brief moments of remembrance and the soundtrack swells with her husband's music. The music is beautiful yet mournful and just enveloped my family room to the point where I was concerned it might wake my sleeping wife. There was no way I was going to lower the volume though and deny my ears the experience. I also have to mention the job Juliette Binoche did. To say she carries the entire film is a gross understatement. There are a handful of other characters, but for the most part the film is hers and hers alone. What's most interesting to me is that while the circumstances Julie finds herself in should demand much sympathy from the audience, she isn't a totally sympathetic character. Spoiler:
I'm going to try to watch White tonight. My understanding is that White is the least of the trilogy, but I don't imagine it will in any way be bad. |
Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
Eclipse Series 5: The First Films of Samuel Fuller (The Baron of Arizona / I Shot Jesse James / The Steel Helmet) $10.49
http://www.amazon.com/Eclipse-Samuel...lipse+Series+5 |
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Thoughts for next year's checklist that have crossed my mind while trying to pick out my next movie:
Expand the Top 10 to selecting, say, 10 of the spotlighted People. This includes the Top 10, but expands to give us more variety of directors and actors, as well. Presently, there are 49 profiles in the People section. Add Watch a Top 10 List. It's comparable in effect to Watch an entire Criterion Collector's Set/Eclipse Box Set (though admittedly involving a greater number of films). The appeal here is to get a better understanding of an individual's taste. For instance, I know there are several Wes Anderson fans among us. Since his filmography is still fairly small (smaller yet when we exclude the non-Criterion works), perhaps it might be interesting to those participants to check out his Top 10 Criterions and get a newer sense of the auteur that way. Also, I came across CriterionCast.com earlier tonight. There's plenty to read, though of course it's not official Criterion content. Particularly relevant to participants, however, is that they have a list of Criterion titles actively streaming on Netflix. I count 64 titles. Several are also streaming on HuluPlus but of course, that doesn't mean anything to our Netflix-only participants. |
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Roger Ebert's daily streamer selection today is Carnival of Souls (DVD #63). It's on Netflix until Friday. Here's his review, which obviously isn't an official Criterion essay and doesn't count toward the checklist but may be of interest all the same.
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Days of Heaven looks so damn pretty on Blu-ray that I just had to take a photo!
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/photo-11.jpg I'm off to a late and slow start, but I'd still like to make it through my unwatched Criterion Blu-ray titles this month. |
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Originally Posted by junglalien
(Post 11378004)
Eclipse Series 5: The First Films of Samuel Fuller (The Baron of Arizona / I Shot Jesse James / The Steel Helmet) $10.49
http://www.amazon.com/Eclipse-Samuel...lipse+Series+5 I watched A Woman Is a Woman last night, which only re-confirmed my distaste for Godard. I find his films to be incredibly lazy and self-indulgent. The screenplays seem half-finished, and he barely gives his actors much in the way of direction. Moreover, Ana Karina is lovely to behold, but she is a terrible actress. I can deal with the overly cute script (although the fighting by book titles was just too twee for me. And the subtitles weren't entirely faithful translations from the French--in that scene, "Va Te Faire Foutre" does NOT mean "Go to hell", but the much stronger "Go ----yourself"), but the acting and the visual devices like the printed words onscreen really took me out of the movie, although I suppose alienation of the viewer was an intended effect. And what is with the loud blaring cartoon music throughout the film? I don't mean Michel LeGrand's songs, but the Carl Stallingsesque score you'd hear in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. So far, the only Godard movie I have enjoyed watching is Vivre Sa Vie. |
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I watched A Woman Is a Woman a little over a year ago. I don't remember anything about it but looking at how I rated it, I must have really hated it. Also not a fan of Godard. I went through a bunch of his films around the same time and he's one of the directors I dread if I'm about to watch something of his.
I also know I'm going against the grain of this thread when I admit I don't like Ingmar Bergman. I didn't mind some of the stuff I've seen of his at first but the more I watched, the more of the same types of things I'd see in each film, carried over to each other and it's just one of those things that started annoying me. I'm also finding them to be overly long and predictable and I know I have a couple more things of his on my watch list. I'm not exactly thrilled about it but I find him much more tolerable than Godard. |
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11378887)
I also know I'm going against the grain of this thread when I admit I don't like Ingmar Bergman. I didn't mind some of the stuff I've seen of his at first but the more I watched, the more of the same types of things I'd see in each film, carried over to each other and it's just one of those things that started annoying me. I'm also finding them to be overly long and predictable and I know I have a couple more things of his on my watch list. I'm not exactly thrilled about it but I find him much more tolerable than Godard.
In the case of Bergman's filmography, I find it particularly interesting to make my way through a handful of successive works together. The differences in perspective are often subtle from one picture to the next, but after a few of them, it's easier to stand back and get a sense of the transformation at work over those few films. I enjoy following his film-by-film evolution as storyteller, each work offering a little more nuance and reflection than the last. This is, of course, the exact opposite from a filmography like, say, Stanley Kubrick's. Kubrick did one film in pretty much every genre, rarely revisiting similar subject material at all. The appeal there is to be taken somewhere entirely new each time out, and I get that, too. There's something about Bergman's rich atmospheres, though, that make me feel comfortable. I feel a part of the world he created, almost like he's the Ghost of Christmas Past, escorting me through a series of goings-on to which I had been oblivious. |
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Originally Posted by rocket1312
(Post 11377695)
After a few days I was finally able to get back to the challenge. Last night I screened Three Colors: Blue. This was my first viewing and my only previous experience with Kieslowski was The Double Life of Veronique (which I've been meaning to revisit for some time).
First off, Blue is a gorgeous film... Thanks for sharing your experience with it. I was worried that Veronique set the bar too high. |
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11378927)
the same troupe of actors
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11378192)
Thoughts for next year's checklist that have crossed my mind while trying to pick out my next movie:
Expand the Top 10 to selecting, say, 10 of the spotlighted People. This includes the Top 10, but expands to give us more variety of directors and actors, as well. Presently, there are 49 profiles in the People section.
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11378192)
Add Watch a Top 10 List. It's comparable in effect to Watch an entire Criterion Collector's Set/Eclipse Box Set (though admittedly involving a greater number of films). The appeal here is to get a better understanding of an individual's taste. For instance, I know there are several Wes Anderson fans among us. Since his filmography is still fairly small (smaller yet when we exclude the non-Criterion works), perhaps it might be interesting to those participants to check out his Top 10 Criterions and get a newer sense of the auteur that way.
I think it's good to know that it's there and I think it's could be a fun personal challenge, but I'm hesitant to add such a weighty requirement to the checklist. I've always been a fan of the spirit that Trevor established with the first challenge that it was about depth rather than breadth. I think we should be careful about adding more categories without a really good reason. I think I mentioned in the discussion thread that no one completed the checklist last year (you got the closest). While completed the checklist isn't the goal, I think it's good to establish some kind of goal that gets people watching "different" material. The language, director, and decade list accomplishes that fairly well. That's just my opinion, I've always had the perspective that this is a shared responsibility, so we can make it based on what others think when the challenge rolls around again next year. |
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11378982)
That's one of the things that bothers me. There's a couple of directors where I know that a certain people are going to show up in similar roles. Minor pet peeve of mine.
Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
(Post 11379003)
I like the spirit of this idea and I remember trying to find a way to incorporate it last year. The problems that I see with it is similar to what I stated above: it becomes more of a roadblock than one getting swept up in any singular list. The real problem is access.
Access, however, is a major sticking point - even for those of us with a HuluPlus subscription. I've looked at a few lists (Steve Buscemi's and Diablo Cody's among them) and I haven't found a single list right now where I have access to the whole ten. By next September, perhaps more of the older titles will be more readily available to stream? Perhaps we might add it as a sort of optional, advanced, Trevor-level checklist item? Speaking of optional items, I forgot to again suggest listening to a soundtrack album. I was reminded because I've got $5 in Amazon MP3 credit and I'm strongly leaning toward redeeming it toward Nino Rota's 8 1/2 score. |
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If anyone is interested, the Horror Etc podcast deviated from their usual format in one podcast, in which they deidcated an entire podcast to the works of Bergman. I forget which episode it was or when the ep was produced, but it is on their website.
http://www.horroretc.com/ |
Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11379016)
I don't think that it's necessarily a deterrent to watch ten specific films, partly because we'd obviously pick a list that interested us and partly because the variety of choices on any given list is going to whittle away big time at the rest of the checklist. It doesn't seem much more challenging than trying to hit all the spine ranges, really.
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11379016)
Access, however, is a major sticking point - even for those of us with a HuluPlus subscription. I've looked at a few lists (Steve Buscemi's and Diablo Cody's among them) and I haven't found a single list right now where I have access to the whole ten. By next September, perhaps more of the older titles will be more readily available to stream?
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11379016)
Speaking of optional items, I forgot to again suggest listening to a soundtrack album. I was reminded because I've got $5 in Amazon MP3 credit and I'm strongly leaning toward redeeming it toward Nino Rota's 8 1/2 score.
Anyway, I think it's a great idea, it's a way to think about the film in a different way and there's this: Criterion Great Soundtracks. So, remind me next year, so we can get that added. |
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
(Post 11379532)
Well, the spine numbers give you a lot more range. You have to watch the ten that are there, with the spine numbers, I can pick from many combinations. I can go through 50 and find at least one I like; I've yet to find one list that I'm in love with (despite loving some of the people).
Anyway, it was merely a consideration and not something I'm going to really campaign for inclusion. I've put it out there and I'm content to let it go at that. |
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Last year I did the checklist a bit but this year I'm not even bothering with it. The main reason, which I ran into last year, was the director list. I'm focusing on first time viewing and didn't watch anything from those guy, mainly because I've already seen most of their stuff. Since they all carried over to this year, I just dropped doing the checklist altogether.
I'd be more interested if it was just watching 10 different directors or if it was like the option where some were grouped together and you just had to watch one in the group. |
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