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Streamed Belle de jour this morning. Here's my review, as published on Letterboxd:
SPOILER ALERT FOR ANYONE READING E-MAILS Spoiler:
Belle de jour -X- 1960s (1967) -X- Language (French) -X- Spine Range #551-600 (#593) -X- Read an essay: Belle de jour: Tough Love by Melissa Anderson |
Re: 4th Annual Criterion Challenge
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11380170)
I'd be more interested if it was just watching 10 different directors or if it was like the option where some were grouped together and you just had to watch one in the group.
I would modify that suggestion now that I think about it so as to not allow duplication. That is, you couldn't watch Belle de jour as I just did and count it for both Luis Buñuel AND Catherine Deneuve to get 2 checks out of the X People section with the one film. |
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Two more down...
I continued to work my way through the Three Colors Trilogy, with the next one being White. From what I've read, the general consensus seems to be that White is the weakest of the three films. I have yet to see Red, but I can see why some might be of this opinion. First off, White is a much more provincial film than Blue. What I mean by that is much of the film is about the current (at the time) political/economic climate in Poland. The Soviet Union had crumbled and Poland came out from behind the Iron Curtain and was learning to navigate the free market as well as integrate itself into the European community. While no doubt important to Kieslowski and others living in Poland in the early 90's, these ideas/themes are not nearly as universal as those found in Blue. While White's story can be enjoyed in and of itself, this background information really is key to unlocking it's deeper meanings. White also doesn't showcase the kind of bravura filmmaking on display in Veronique, Blue, and (from what I understand) Red. That isn't to say that it's a technically inferior film, it's just not as flashy. The Polish locales in the film are much more drab, and with this being "White" the coverall color scheme much more muted. While there are some sequences that are quite beautiful (the wedding flashbacks, for example) this would not be the disc you would put in to show your friends how "pretty" Kieslowski's films are. All of the above might make it sound like I don't think much of White, but that is hardly the case at all. White's story of a down-on-his-luck Polish hairdresser who's scheming to get his life back together after his French wife divorces him is essentially a black comedy that can also be rather touching. I knew very little about it going in and was surprised at how fun it was. While I really liked Blue, it can be pretty depressing and it took me a while to get in the mood to see it. White, on the other hand, is a much more typical "night at the movies" (at aleast as far as Kieslowski goes), if that makes any sense at all. Zbigniew Zamachowski is great as the schlubby hairdresser who's seemingly trying to both win his ex-wife back and get revenge on her at the same time. He's very easy to root for. On the other hand, he's certainly not as nice to look at as Juliette Binoche or Irene Jakob and quite frankly, in addition to the reasons I mentioned above, I think this is a big part of why White might get overlooked in lieu of the other two films. It's sounds kind of silly, but I honestly believe it. That's not to discount Julie Delpy, who looks great as the ex-wife, but while her character drives much of the action, she doesn't appear on screen for much of the film. (And I don't mean to relegate Delpy to simply eye candy. She gives a good performance as well.) All in and all White's a great film and one that I definitely recommend. It doesn't quite have the lasting resonance of Blue, but then it's a very different kind of film. I'll also add that the ending really surprised me and I look forward to revisiting after I finish the trilogy as I'm not sure exactly what to think about it. I have a hunch Red may clarify some things as well. |
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The other one I watched was Godzilla, King of the Monsters, which is the Americanized version of the Japanese original. This is really not much more than a curiosity for me. I enjoy the Japanese version, but the American one, which inserts new footage with Raymond Burr as a reporter who is witness to the events of the original, understandably strips away most of the politics which makes the original so much more compelling than your average giant monster movie. Especially considering that while I appreciate the artistry and ingenuity of the original's "Godzilla" sequences, I never found them particualrly thrilling on a visceral level. To be honest, I'm a little surprised that this version made any sort of traction here in the US, but then again, I'm coming to it 50+ years after the fact. I will give the producers credit for keeping the score from the Japanese version as it's one of the major strengths of the film. I wish the countless other American studios who bought the rights to Asian films over the years had made the same choice (I'm looking at you, Weinsteins *shakes fist*).
I can't see myself revisiting this again any time soon other than to watch it with the commentary, but I applaud Criterion for including both versions (and for including commentaries on both). I wish more studios would follow this example (again, I'm looking at you, Weinsteins *shakes fist again*) ***random aside*** I found it odd that for the first 20 minutes or so of the film the Japanese dialogue is left untouched with only Raymond Burr's naration to clue us in on what's going on, but after that traditional dubbing takes over. For example the scientist played by Takashi Shimura speaks Japanese at the first hearing/press conference, but after that speaks almost exclusively in English, including at later hearings/press conferences. Not really important, but it was funny to me. |
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My wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday tomorrow. I've decided to ask her to spend the day with "the old me", the one who watched 280 films the month before he met her.
So I have one full day, possibly ~ 36 hours if we start tonight, to fully expose her to both Criterion, and "the old me". She is not a huge film fan, and also hates scary movies. I was going to use this as an opportunity to finally, and possibly lastly, watch horror films with her, doing 7 or so Criterion horror films. I'm still leaning towards that, but perhaps I should throw in a non-horror gem or three. I know that none of you know her, but any suggestions on what to watch? Either the scariest Criterions or films of any genre that a complete non-film watcher would enjoy? |
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^I'd suggest:
The Adventures of Robin Hood A Hard Day's Night A Night at the Opera Adam's Rib Arsenic and Old Lace Casablanca Hamlet La Cage aux Folles Scaramouche Some Like it Hot The Producers I could name *lots* of others but they lean more toward "cult" type films. I'd throw in Monty Python's Life of Brian or Terry Gilliam's Time Bandits film if she's inclined to that type of comedy. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen is also a good comedy in the Python style. For horror, I don't know if you would call it the "scariest" but I always enjoy Cat People and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Halloween is a great psycological type horror film. |
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Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11380856)
My wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday tomorrow. I've decided to ask her to spend the day with "the old me", the one who watched 280 films the month before he met her.
So I have one full day, possibly ~ 36 hours if we start tonight, to fully expose her to both Criterion, and "the old me". She is not a huge film fan, and also hates scary movies. I was going to use this as an opportunity to finally, and possibly lastly, watch horror films with her, doing 7 or so Criterion horror films. I'm still leaning towards that, but perhaps I should throw in a non-horror gem or three. I know that none of you know her, but any suggestions on what to watch? Either the scariest Criterions or films of any genre that a complete non-film watcher would enjoy? |
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Yesterday, I hit the library again and checked out The Rolling Stones doc, Gimme Shelter. I've consumed the entire thing, though I had to read the essays from Criterion.com because the library doesn't have the booklet. My review of the film and bonus content and the commentary track and essays:
Spoiler:
Gimme Shelter -X- 1970s (1970) -X- Language (English) -X- Themes (Documentaries, Great Performances, Great Soundtracks) -X- Spine Range #51-100 (#99) -X- Audio Commentary (with directors Albert Maysles and Charlotte Zwerin, and collaborator Stanley Goldstein) -X- Read an essay: "Gimme Shelter: The Decade That Spawned Altamont" by Michael Lydon, "Gimme Shelter: Rock-and-Roll Zapruder" by Amy Taupin, "Gimme Shelter: The True Adventures of Altamont" by Stanley Booth, "The 'Demonic Charisma' of Gimme Shelter" by Godfrey Cheshire, "Gimme Shelter: Snapshots from the Road" by Georgia Bergman, "Gimme Shelter: From Let It Bleed" by Ralph "Sonny" Barger -X- Watch a Criterion disc completely. Every part of it. |
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I watched Made In U.S.A. last night. It was one of those films that made no sense to me and then I have to go search the internet for what the plot was supposed to be. Then I saw it was a Godard film and realized why it made no sense. It wasn't until the last 30 minutes where things started making more sense but it's nothing I would ever want to watch again. If it wasn't for this challenge, it's something I normally wouldn't watch.
Yesterday afternoon, I finished Ride with the Devil. Good enough civil war film. Now I'm working my way through Grey Gardens and Everlasting Moments. |
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Originally Posted by rocket1312
(Post 11380498)
The other one I watched was Godzilla, King of the Monsters, which is the Americanized version of the Japanese original. This is really not much more than a curiosity for me. I enjoy the Japanese version, but the American one, which inserts new footage with Raymond Burr as a reporter who is witness to the events of the original, understandably strips away most of the politics which makes the original so much more compelling than your average giant monster movie. Especially considering that while I appreciate the artistry and ingenuity of the original's "Godzilla" sequences, I never found them particualrly thrilling on a visceral level. To be honest, I'm a little surprised that this version made any sort of traction here in the US, but then again, I'm coming to it 50+ years after the fact. I will give the producers credit for keeping the score from the Japanese version as it's one of the major strengths of the film. I wish the countless other American studios who bought the rights to Asian films over the years had made the same choice (I'm looking at you, Weinsteins *shakes fist*).
I can't see myself revisiting this again any time soon other than to watch it with the commentary, but I applaud Criterion for including both versions (and for including commentaries on both). I wish more studios would follow this example (again, I'm looking at you, Weinsteins *shakes fist again*) ***random aside*** I found it odd that for the first 20 minutes or so of the film the Japanese dialogue is left untouched with only Raymond Burr's naration to clue us in on what's going on, but after that traditional dubbing takes over. For example the scientist played by Takashi Shimura speaks Japanese at the first hearing/press conference, but after that speaks almost exclusively in English, including at later hearings/press conferences. Not really important, but it was funny to me. And thanks to GODZILLA's success, the next Japanese monster film to be released in an English-dubbed version was RODAN, which didn't need any American stars at all. So for us kids at the time, RODAN, seen on TV the following year, was the first "true" Japanese film we saw, i.e. in an "unaltered" form, although it would be years before I realized it. This was at a time when, as kids, we still saw the Japanese as the enemy, thanks to the long shadow cast over us by World War II. So in some strange way these films helped cement the peace, some 13-14 years after the fact. |
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while Yojimbo might be the more critical praised films, I thought Sanjuro was the more memorable of the two - along with the 'oh my god, holy shit!' ending.
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11380162)
In my case, I'm open to watching anything in the Criterion Collection (though obviously, I'm more interested in some and less interested in others). Some Top 10 lists would have me re-watch something, though, and I generally prefer to concentrate on first time viewings these days.
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11380162)
Anyway, it was merely a consideration and not something I'm going to really campaign for inclusion. I've put it out there and I'm content to let it go at that.
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11380170)
Last year I did the checklist a bit but this year I'm not even bothering with it. The main reason, which I ran into last year, was the director list. I'm focusing on first time viewing and didn't watch anything from those guy, mainly because I've already seen most of their stuff. Since they all carried over to this year, I just dropped doing the checklist altogether.
I'd be more interested if it was just watching 10 different directors or if it was like the option where some were grouped together and you just had to watch one in the group.
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11380199)
That's why I proposed expanding that to watching movies featuring X number of the spotlighted People. That list presently stands at 49, including actors and directors.
I would modify that suggestion now that I think about it so as to not allow duplication. That is, you couldn't watch Belle de jour as I just did and count it for both Luis Buñuel AND Catherine Deneuve to get 2 checks out of the X People section with the one film. Seriously, though, I don't remember whose idea it was (could have been mine), but I've noticed that it's a severely limiting and forces those that have burned through most of those films the "responsibility" to revisit them. I want it to be as open-ended as possible and encourage participation and exploration beyond the norm. So, it's safe to say that it's gone next challenge.
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11380856)
My wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday tomorrow. I've decided to ask her to spend the day with "the old me", the one who watched 280 films the month before he met her.
So I have one full day, possibly ~ 36 hours if we start tonight, to fully expose her to both Criterion, and "the old me". She is not a huge film fan, and also hates scary movies. I was going to use this as an opportunity to finally, and possibly lastly, watch horror films with her, doing 7 or so Criterion horror films. I'm still leaning towards that, but perhaps I should throw in a non-horror gem or three. I know that none of you know her, but any suggestions on what to watch? Either the scariest Criterions or films of any genre that a complete non-film watcher would enjoy? Can't wait to hear about the titles that you watched. |
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Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11380856)
My wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday tomorrow. I've decided to ask her to spend the day with "the old me", the one who watched 280 films the month before he met her.
So I have one full day, possibly ~ 36 hours if we start tonight, to fully expose her to both Criterion, and "the old me". She is not a huge film fan, and also hates scary movies. I was going to use this as an opportunity to finally, and possibly lastly, watch horror films with her, doing 7 or so Criterion horror films. I'm still leaning towards that, but perhaps I should throw in a non-horror gem or three. I know that none of you know her, but any suggestions on what to watch? Either the scariest Criterions or films of any genre that a complete non-film watcher would enjoy? |
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The Killing is a well paced tense heist film but aspects were disappointing. SPOILER:
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Speaking of Criterion horror Antichrist has some interesting techniques and I want to like it more than I do. Some of the plot feels forced but it seems well directed with good acting although the imagery is sometimes too over the top. I admire it's ambitiousness but it comes across in a torture porn kind of way. |
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Three quick things:
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My latest, Kind Hearts and Coronets
Spoiler:
Kind Hearts and Coronets -X- 1940s (1949) -X- Language (English) -X- Theme (Comedies) -X- Spine Range #301-350 (#325) -X- Read an Essay (Ealing's Shadow Side by Philip Kemp) |
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
(Post 11382645)
The Killing is a well paced tense heist film but aspects were disappointing. SPOILER:
Spoiler:
Also, THE KILLING would have violated the Production Code, which was still in effect in 1955, if any of the robbers had successfully escaped with any of the money. |
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11382674)
Three quick things:
[LIST=1][*]I noticed in the end credits of Gimme Shelter that one of the camera operators was George Lucas. Nothing was said about that in any of the bonus content (at least, not that I caught), but it was mentioned in one of the essays that it was the George Lucas. That makes two of my selections so far to be connected with him directly (the only bonus feature on The Hidden Fortress DVD is a video interview with him). And yes, the ending of The Killing is absolutely perfect and very much in the noir tradition. |
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
(Post 11380868)
^I'd suggest:
Originally Posted by shadokitty
(Post 11380891)
Well, maybe classic horror like Godzilla King of the Monsters or Cat People?
Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
(Post 11382400)
Happy Birthday, Trevor! What an awesome idea and I hope it's fun. I wish I had seen this earlier as I'm sure I could have thrown some suggestions out there. If you're still rolling with it, M seems to be universally appreciated and, while not "scary" it does have suspense. Diabolique would also go on that list.
Can't wait to hear about the titles that you watched. More on the other selections later, I've spent to much time on my iPad this morning and need to move on.
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11382588)
huh? really? how is THAT working out?? (oh and happy birthday)
Thanks for the birthday wishes all, especially Travis, who easily wins my Facebook wall for the day with the following post. http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/a...A6B09066A1.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11383090)
I never understood the "opposites attract" thing until meeting Jen. We have literally nothing in common, but it somehow works.
And that's a *great* card. You should post it in the Horror Challenge thread too. |
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Last night, I got to yet another of the Big Ones: The Third Man, checked out on Criterion DVD from my local library! My Letterboxd review:
Spoiler:
The Third Man Qualifying Checks -X- 1940s (1949) -X- Language (English) -X- Themes (Compare and Contrast, Great Soundtracks, Noir and Neonoir) -X- Spine Range #051-100 (#64) -X- Watch a film with commentary (Commentary 1 with filmmaker Steven Soderberg and screenwriter Tony Gilroy, Commentary 2 with film scholar Dana Polan) -X- Read an essay ("The Third Man" by Michael Wilmington, "Behind The Third Man" by Charles Drazin, "The Third Man: Seeing Greene" by Philip Kerr, "The Third Man: The One and Only..." by Luc Sante) -X- Watch a Criterion disc completely. Every part of it. -X- Watch an entire Criterion Collector's Set/Eclipse Box Set (Essential Art House: 50 Years of Janus Films, 10 Years of Rialto Pictures) |
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For the first time ever, I have finished the checklist for this challenge. My last check was Hunger, a fantastic film although unpleasant in many spots, and like many British films it needs subtitles for Americans. I disagree with making Bobby Sands a martyr to a principle without including that he was a murderous IRA thug. Steve McQueen followed this up with the equally awesome Shame. I look forward to his next films--he is a director to watch out for.
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Originally Posted by Gobear
(Post 11385034)
For the first time ever, I have finished the checklist for this challenge. My last check was Hunger, a fantastic film although unpleasant in many spots, and like many British films it needs subtitles for Americans. I disagree with making Bobby Sands a martyr to a principle without including that he was a murderous IRA thug. Steve McQueen followqed this up with the equally awesome Shame. I look forward to his next films--he is a director to watch out for.
The portrayal of Sands, of course, is another matter and I find myself in agreement with you that the film is pretty mum on what landed Sands to imprisonment in the first place. Still, though...16 minutes! A single take! |
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11385169)
I watched Hunger in 2010. I felt it had too many things that weren't clearly connected with the overall narrative and that it dragged at times but I also couldn't look away - even when I desperately wanted to do just that. There's that 16 minute, single-take scene with the priest, though, and that nullifies just about any film-making criticism I might have.
The portrayal of Sands, of course, is another matter and I find myself in agreement with you that the film is pretty mum on what landed Sands to imprisonment in the first place. Still, though...16 minutes! A single take! |
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11385247)
I must admit "Hunger" didn't impress me in the slightest nor did 'Shame' for that matter. As for the 16 minute single take shot, really that's no different than filming a stage actor - most Hollywood actor's who haven't done stage work couldn't do it - so it's really not rocket science for the best stage trained actors.
It's also worth noting that rarely is any 16 minute sequence of a stage play performed by just two actors remaining entirely stationary. Even in single-performer plays, at least the one performer gets to move around the stage. The theater audience is rarely asked to remain focused on one or two speakers who remain in one place for 16 minutes, and for good reason: it's taxing on the attention span. The performance in Hunger is intense enough that it never loses its power. It's not, then, that it's necessarily an extraordinary human accomplishment; other actors do indeed perform in a single take on stage in front of a live audience every night. But there's a lot more to the scene in Hunger than I think you've considered or credit. |
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