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Old 08-07-10 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
What Trevor said plus the fact that there was absolutely no reason to fight over her. I never saw what made them so crazy for her.
Were there any other girls in that show? Maybe that's the reason.
Old 08-07-10 | 06:44 PM
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Were there any other girls in that show? Maybe that's the reason.
I was actually going to say that I don't remember any other females in the Popeye shorts. I know that the Sea Hag was in the TV Show (not sure if she was ever in the shorts), but if it's Olive or the Sea Hag I can see why they're fighting.
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I remember some episode where a normal looking human girl showed up and they both went crazy over her and Olive Oil was totally forgotten. I also seem to remember one of them, possibly Bluto, cross dressing and having Popeye fall for him/her, which was Bluto's plan to get Olive.

I also want to throw out a reminder for people to number their lists *cough*Ash*cough*
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So I've been splitting up whatever it is I'm watching with blocks of The Simpsons and each time Lionel Hutz or Troy McClure appears it saddens me. It's a real shame that Phil Hartman isn't here anymore.
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I'm later getting started than I'd hoped, and this thread is kind of dense by now. I'm starting with G.I. Joe: The M.A.S.S. Device, which cuts together the first five episode mini-series as a singular, 100 minute long story. How do I count this?
Amazon lists it as 110 minutes. That is 22 x 5, and 22 minutes is what a lot of episodes of half hour tv shows are around without the commercials. If there are any edits, I would assume it is just intros/credits. I would guess you'd be able to could it as 1.25.
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To keep it simple, I'd count it as 1, since it's a movie and not separate episodes.
Old 08-07-10 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
To keep it simple, I'd count it as 1, since it's a movie and not separate episodes.
Sounds good to me. And N8 Storm is right; the DVD lists it at 110 minutes. It's cut as a single feature, with only one opening titles sequence, and one end credits sequence. I've got two more of these; Revenge of Cobra (110 minutes) and Arise, Serpentor, Arise! (100 minutes). Think I'll space 'em out. I'd love to get the movie on Blu-ray, but so far all I've found is the DVD release; I've got the old DVD release if it comes down to it.
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
What Trevor said plus the fact that there was absolutely no reason to fight over her. I never saw what made them so crazy for her.
That's what makes Popeye cartoons so funny. Bluto gets a look at beanpole-thin Olive and thinks she's hot and then goes after her like she was Pam Anderson or something (or Betty Grable, to use a period-appropriate reference). In "Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor," Bluto first spots Olive through his telescope and slowly pans along her body, clearly getting a thrill out of it. I've seen cartoons where Bluto sneaks in some quick but serious gropes along Olive's scrawny body. Granted, I've seen the same thing in pre-code Betty Boop cartoons, but none after 1934. In post-code Popeye cartoons, Bluto gets away with things he wouldn't have gotten away with if Olive had actually been hot. That makes it even funnier.

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Old 08-09-10 | 09:45 AM
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a family vacation threw me for a loop all last week, but off and running today! gonna check out 'Dispicable Me' (in 3D) later this afternoon
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I've been focusing mostly on the checklist items to get them out of the way before plunging into the volumes of TV anime that have been piling up the last two years waiting for me to watch. Some of these items are a slog, like the least loved genre/character (Hello Kitty, Muppet Babies) and the puppet category (I've never liked the Muppets).

But my daughter's recommendation of WAKING LIFE (and her lending me the DVD) was a pleasant surprise. It's everything I might have liked about INCEPTION if only Richard Linklater had made it. And I'm glad I finally sat and watched HALO LEGENDS (2010, the newest title in my collection). The stories aren't as good as those in ANIMATRIX, but the animation is quite spectacular throughout and some of the segments are quite exciting and suspenseful. I only wish they'd released this to theaters. It would have been great on the big screen. I watched this today right after watching GALL FORCE: ETERNAL STORY (1986), which was from "the hardest to reach part of your collection." It was in the back of the top box in the back of the closet and I don't know why I buried it--it's really good anime sci-fi and it looks forward to some of the themes in HALO LEGENDS. What great luck to watch them one right after the other.

One big disappointment. One of only two animated westerns I have is THE MAN FROM BUTTON WILLOW (1965). I watched it to check off the favorite genre (western) slot on the checklist. It's supposed to be the story of an undercover Fed working against landgrabbers trying to make a profit off the railroad, but instead the overwhelming majority of it is devoted to Disney-style anthropomorphic animals and their "funny" antics, i.e. a skunk who gestures like a human throughout. The plot doesn't kick in until almost the hour mark (it's an 80-minute film) and when it does the action shifts to San Francisco and the one big human action sequence is a fight on board a ship with the hero doing swashbuckling stunts and all. Not much of a western, is it? And it's padded out with awful songs. I'll stick to SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON (2002). Now that's a real animated western.

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So what are some NC-17 rated (are there any?) and X rated animated films?
Old 08-11-10 | 06:00 PM
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So what are some NC-17 rated (are there any?) and X rated animated films?
I don't know of any NC-17 animated films, but Fritz The Cat is probably the most well-known of the X rated animated films (it was the first).
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So what are some NC-17 rated (are there any?) animated films?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC-17_movies

South Park
Team America


Probably others, but those two jump out at me.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC-17_movies

South Park
Team America


Probably others, but those two jump out at me.
I could've sworn my South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut is Rated R...
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I could've sworn my South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut is Rated R...
I'm not sure where they got that rating from. Imdb usually says something like NC-17 but edited to an R and for this, they only say an R. The reference for the movie at wikipedia also only says R and I can't find a real source for it anywhere else, that isn't just parroting what wikipedia said.
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
I'm not sure where they got that rating from. Imdb usually says something like NC-17 but edited to an R and for this, they only say an R. The reference for the movie at wikipedia also only says R and I can't find a real source for it anywhere else, that isn't just parroting what wikipedia said.
Fwiw, found this on the IMDB message boards:

The sex scene was edited to tone it down from NC-17 to an R-rating. They released an "unrated" DVD which included the unedited sex scene. Everything else is still the same, including the language, violence, and sexual references in the dialogue.
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Neither South Park or Team America are NC-17. I'm a huge Matt & Trey fan. They were released in theaters as R and were not on home video as NC-17 either. If the unrated DVD version of Team America (which is likely one of the NC-17 edits that went to the board) is going to be allowed, I guess I'll watch that and count it. South Park was released as R only on home video. I think NC-17 should probably be changed to optional on the checklist. There are very few titles if any that fit that bill.

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Neither South Park or Team America are NC-17. I'm a huge Matt & Trey fan. They were released in theaters as R and were not on home video as NC-17 either. If the unrated DVD version of Team America (which is likely one of the NC-17 edits that went to the board) is going to be allowed, I guess I'll watch that and count it. South Park was released as R only on home video. I think NC-17 should probably be changed to optional on the checklist. There are very few titles if any that fit that bill.
Every rating is optional on the checklist.

Very few films are actually released as NC-17. The Challenge checklists have always been very lenient on these ratings. If a film was submitted to the MPAA and given an X or NC-17, but then edited and released to theaters as R, you can count the unedited version as X or NC-17.
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I vote that "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World" should count as an animated title.
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On a whim last week, I realized I'd forgotten to ask one of my favorite companies Something Weird Video, if they'd be interested in doing anything for this challenge. I kick myself for not asking earlier to get them in on the Sci-fi/Fantasy challenge because they were all for doing some prizes for this challenge.



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2. A Coach for Cinderella
3. The ABC of the Diesel Engine
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Avoidable Carrier Accidents (1949; color) defines stupid sailors who crash their planes on aircraft carriers as the same stupid sailors who do dumb things on leave. Ah, the joy of stupidity.

The Adventures of Junior Raindrop (color) is the story of cutesy raindrops who… well… go wrong once they get to earth. Because of forest fires or badly managed land, raindrops like Junior become “hoodlum raindrops” (!), get involved “with gangs” (!!), and turn into “gangster” raindrops (!!!). Wow.

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I vote that "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World" should count as an animated title.
I know absolutely nothing about this film. Have any more info on why it should count?
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I know absolutely nothing about this film. Have any more info on why it should count?
I think that was mainly a joke since the film is based on a comic book. I think it's all live action with very little CGI, but I could be completely wrong. Great reviews though, I'm quite anxious to see it.
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I live in a bubble. I rarely know what's playing at theaters or what they're about since I always skip through commercials and don't read about movies online.
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Originally Posted by N8 Storm
Neither South Park or Team America are NC-17. I'm a huge Matt & Trey fan. They were released in theaters as R and were not on home video as NC-17 either. If the unrated DVD version of Team America (which is likely one of the NC-17 edits that went to the board) is going to be allowed, I guess I'll watch that and count it. South Park was released as R only on home video. I think NC-17 should probably be changed to optional on the checklist. There are very few titles if any that fit that bill.
well... uh, the cut of South Park the Movie that wound up on British DVD does contain one curse word that isn't in the US R-rated cut, Cartman utters the 'c' word (no, not 'cancer') in his barrage of naughy words at the film's finale.
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Crud, I figured this one would be easy for me to watch stuff with my kids, but here I am halfway through the month with a big fat zero. I don't know if it's worth it to pound out a few and make a list just to end up in the bottom group again. My self-esteem hangs in the balance.


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