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August Animation Challenge 2010



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Challenge Starts August 1st at 12am EST

Challenge ends September 1st at dawn

Rules

Movies/TV shows should be labeled Animation from either imdb.com or allmovie.com. Other labels don't matter as long as there is at least a Animation label from one of those sites. Action/Animation would be fine.

This is the challenge where any and all types of animation is welcome, CGI, hand drawn, puppetry, stop motion, etc. The entire movie/show does not need to be completely animated. Something like Roger Rabbit or a Ray Harryhausen film would be allowed, as would all of the Star Wars movies.

What isn't allowed are films/shows that use touches of CGI, or other forms of animation, that don't directly influence the film/show. The Others has a large amount of CGI landscaping during the opening credits as the car drives through the mountains but it doesn't really have anything to do with the film. Changeling is another example. While it has some scenes with CGI people in the background, that's all it amounts to in the story.

If anyone has a problem with something someone watches or just wants an opinion on if it's animation or not, ask here.

Animation documentaries are allowed but not DVD featurettes/interviews that are just fluff promo pieces.

As with the other challenges, the lists must be numbered or it won't count.

Movies count as 1 entry each.

TV shows count according to length as they are aired on TV(including commercials):
  • 30 minute shows count as 1/4 an entry
  • 1 hour shows count as 1/2 an entry
  • 2 hour shows count as 1 entry
So you need 4, 30 minute shows for 1 entry or 2 60 minute shows or any combination that gets you to 1 entry. While the Family Guy parodies of Star Wars has a runtime of around 43 minutes, on-air it's an hour show.

If it's short films that are 10 minutes or less, once you hit 23 minutes of watching them, you've reached one 30 minute show. This is based on the theory that the run time for a 30 minute show is between 22-24 minutes.

For mini series, do count each "day" that it aired (assuming that each day was a 2 hour block). For example, Animated Dune: The Mini Series, would it be:

63. Animated Dune: The Mini Series - Part I
64. Animated Dune: The Mini Series - Part II
65. Animated Dune: The Mini Seriies - Part III

When listing TV shows, keep them together for one entry.
Example:
65. South Park:episode name / Futurama: episode name / Futurama: episode name
How do I list TV shows and other short stuff if I don't have enough for an entry?

At the bottom of your post/list, keep a Temp TV section. Add stuff there until you get enough for an entry.

Watching the movie/show with the commentary will count as an entry.

Watching multiple versions(theatrical and director's cut) of the same movie/show will also count.

Show what days you watched whatever it was you watched

Example
August 1:
1. Snow White
2. Toy Story 3

July 2:
3. Fantastic Mr. Fox
How to win

I'm stealing the prize determination from the exploitation challenge. Names will be randomly selected from http://www.random.org/lists/ The top people, one prize per person, get something.

There's 4 ways to get an entry:
  1. Participate by watching at least 1 item
  2. Watch 100 items
  3. Start the checklist
  4. Complete the checklist

The List Thread will be a couple weeks before the challenge begins.

3 wild cards for all. Use for those shows you want to watch but know they really don't count but they're pretty close or borderline to counting.

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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/anime-talk/...ster-list.html

There's also websites like:
www.hulu.com
www.youtube.com
www.archive.org

Heck, you could even spend a month watching nothing but animation at www.newgrounds.com

Originally Posted by MinLShaw
Incidentally, the Library of Congress has a digital collection called "Origins of American Animation." You can find it on their website, or you can download it (free) in iTunes here.
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
I'm not sure how much longer these things will be free, but iTunes has been offering a lot of free TV episodes this summer. There's an assortment of Kids' Shows that includes some animated fare and another collection of free anime episodes here. I didn't see anything really mandatory in any of it, but everyone's taste is different. Plus, I wouldn't know a "good" anime if it came with a label. For all I know, it's the giveaway of the century.

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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

--- Title from your favorite genre(out of what's in your collection)
--- Title from your least favorite genre(out of what's in your collection)
--- Title with a favorite character - length doesn't matter
--- Title with a loathed character - length doesn't matter
--- Special feature
--- Commentary track
--- Title from the hardest to reach part of your collection - length doesn't matter
--- Title starting with ABC
--- Title starting with DEF
--- Title starting with GHI
--- Title starting with JKLM
--- Title starting with NOP
--- Title starting with QRS
--- Title starting with TUV
--- Title starting with WXYZ
--- First item alphabetically in your collection - length doesn't matter
--- Last item alphabetically in your collection - length doesn't matter
--- Oldest title(as in year made) - length doesn't matter
--- Oldest qualifying title you've bought. If you have old VHS tapes, don't forget to look there too. Format doesn't matter. - length doesn't matter
--- Newest title(as in year made) - length doesn't matter
--- Newest title you've bought - length doesn't matter
--- Finish a season or volume of a series - length doesn't matter
--- Pick an item at random. Make sure those crappy ones get an equal chance to get picked
--- Have a friend/spouse/child/dog/fish pick an item for you. No helping - length doesn't matter

Watch one item from every decade, starting with the 1900s.
--- 1900 (optional)-
--- 1910 (optional) -
--- 1920 (optional) -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

Watch a film for each rating:
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X -
--- Unrated -

--- Watch and anime movie or series -
--- Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings -
--- Puppet show -
--- Mostly or all CGI -
--- Watch 90+ minutes worth of shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny) -
--- Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip -

These genres:
--- Superhero cartoon -
--- Comedy -
--- Adventure -
--- Fantasy -
--- SF -

Watch a movie/show made by:
--- Walt Disney -
--- Chuck Jones -
--- Ub Iwerks -
--- Ralph Bakshi -
--- Fleischer Brothers -
--- Paul Dini -
--- Tex Avery -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -

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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

I'm very excited for this one.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

If I'm not totally burned out after this month's sci-fi challenge, I'll jump in. I've got a shelf of unwatched animation, especially old kids shows. And there's a good sized closet full of anime too...
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

I actually went through my unwatched pile a few months back and separated all the animated titles...I've got plenty to keep me busy.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by John Sinnott
If I'm not totally burned out after this month's sci-fi challenge, I'll jump in. I've got a shelf of unwatched animation, especially old kids shows. And there's a good sized closet full of anime too...
I think this challenge is pretty open to doing a full range of genres since it's not just completely limited to cartoons. One could go through the decades and finding the top special effects movies of the time, like stop motion in the 50s and the movies with the beginnings of CGI that ended up revolving the around poor computer graphics that crap but they were new crap.

In between movies you could cram in the cartoon shorts they'd show at theaters and drive-ins, since they count also.

If someone else wants to just sit and watch Naruto and Pokemon, more power to them.

Hopefully this challenge won't turn out to be a dud.
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I've upgraded a lot of my Pixar/Disney movies to blu-ray and have been saving the re watch's just for this challenge, also been saving the Daria set for this. Those coupled with all the old nicktoons that Netflix added to streaming should be fun!

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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

Would episodes of Monty Python's Flying Circus count, given that they include lots of little animated vignettes and such?
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How exactly would we list the shorts? Title and length? Keep adding until it's 92 minutes?
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

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Would episodes of Monty Python's Flying Circus count, given that they include lots of little animated vignettes and such?
Sure.

Originally Posted by Pizza
How exactly would we list the shorts? Title and length? Keep adding until it's 92 minutes?
Pretty much. As long as you're hitting 90 minutes of actual content, that's a complete entry.
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I assume something like Farscape would count, with all of its puppetry throughout? I was thinking of starting the series during the Sci-Fi challenge and continuing during the Animation challenge.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

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I assume something like Farscape would count, with all of its puppetry throughout? I was thinking of starting the series during the Sci-Fi challenge and continuing during the Animation challenge.
Never seen the show but I'm assuming it's full of space animation, among other things. The puppet stuff also counts, so go for it.
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Can't wait!
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Are there any ideas for the categories for the checklist?
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

I've never done one of these before. I'm interested in participating because I plan to watch a lot of anime this summer. Can I participate if it's all or mostly just anime?

What about cartoon shorts, like the old seven-minute Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons? How do you count those?

When you say "Start Checklist" and "Complete Checklist," what do you mean? Is there a checklist form that everyone has to use, or are you just referring to our own checklist that we make?

Thanks.

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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
I've never done one of these before. I'm interested in participating because I plan to watch a lot of anime this summer. Can I participate if it's all or mostly just anime?

What about cartoon shorts, like the old seven-minute Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons? How do you count those?

When you say "Start Checklist" and "Complete Checklist," what do you mean? Is there a checklist form that everyone has to use, or are you just referring to our own checklist that we make?

Thanks.
Yes, you are welcome to watch/count any type of genre that counts. You could watch all puppetmation, all CGI stuff, all Warner Brothers cartoons, anything, or a mix of everything. Whatever you want basically!

The counting is all explained in the first post.

The checklist is coming, so the "Start Checklist" and "Complete Checklist" will make more sense soon. Or just look at the current Challenge, sci-fi/fantasy, to see things more clearly.
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If someone else wants to just sit and watch Naruto and Pokemon, more power to them.
All right!

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Here's a start for online stuff
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/anime-talk/...ster-list.html
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Think I may do this one... Been a while since the Holiday list and I have some animation stuff Ive been thinking about watching, and since TV is barren right now, this looks like the perfect chance.
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I couldn't wait. Started watching Ĉon Flux tonight since it qualifies for the Sci-Fi Challenge.

Still deciding on what to do next month, but at least a season of the Muppets for sure.
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Still looking for checklist suggestions? Here's a few you might want to consider:

Watch and anime movie or series
Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings
Puppet show
Mostly or all CGI
Watch 90+ minutes worth of theatrical shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip

These genres:
Superhero cartoon
Comedy
Adventure
Fantasy
SF


Watch a movie/show made by:

Walt Disney
Chuck Jones
Ub Iwerks (??)
Ralph Bakshi
Fleischer Brothers
Paul Dini

And of course one from each decade.

Just some ideas to get the conversation started.

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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
Still looking for checklist suggestions? Here's a few you might want to consider:

Watch and anime movie or series
Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings
Puppet show
Mostly or all CGI
Watch 90+ minutes worth of theatrical shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip

These genres:
Superhero cartoon
Comedy
Adventure
Fantasy
SF


Watch a movie/show made by:

Walt Disney
Chuck Jones
Ub Iwerks (??)
Ralph Bakshi
Fleischer Brothers
Paul Dini

And of course one from each decade.

Just some ideas to get the conversation started.
I would suggest to watch a movie by Miyazaki!

I hope to watch about 30 for this challenge. Won't be able to watch as much as I have for the Sci-Fi challenge.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread

Those look good John. I hate it when the checklists get too specific. (Even though I created lots of specific categories in the past. What can I say? I'm a conundrum.)

I love what MP has for a checklist for the unwatched threads.

Spoiler:
--- Title from your favorite genre(out of what's in your pile)
--- Title from your least favorite genre(out of what's in your pile)
--- Title with a favorite actor(out of what's in your pile)
--- Title with a loathed actor(out of what's in your pile)
--- Special feature
--- Commentary track
--- Title from the hardest to reach part of your collection
--- Movie title starting with ABC
--- Movie title starting with DEF
--- Movie title starting with GHI
--- Movie title starting with JKLM
--- Movie title starting with NOP
--- Movie title starting with QRS
--- Movie title starting with TUV
--- Movie title starting with WXYZ
--- First item alphabetically
--- Last item alphabetically
--- Oldest title(as in year made)
--- Oldest title in pile(as in it's been in the unwatched pile the longest as of last month)
--- Newest title(as in year made)
--- Newest title in pile(as in it's been in the unwatched pile the shortest as of last month)
--- Finish a season of a TV series
--- Pick an item at random. Make sure those crappy ones get an equal chance to get picked.
--- Have a friend/spouse/child/dog/fish pick an item for you. No helping.


It's all pretty much applicable to everyone. Every single person on the board that owns unwatched DVDs can fully participate in the checklist.

Too often the categories in Challenge checklists are so limited that there are only 10 or so titles that even qualify, and some of those may not be on DVD. Checklists shouldn't force people to go into too many strange little nooks of a genre. A couple is fine, but ten is probably too many, imo. Make the checklist appear too complicated and many don't even want to touch it. But load it with "general" categories and make it look simple then more people will attempt it.

Obviously, a Challenge checklist isn't going to be just like the monthly ones, there will be quirks to it, and it should be somewhat difficult to complete.

Specifically on your suggestions I'd change these slightly:

Watch and anime movie or show
Watch a theatrical short (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
Watch and anime movie or series
I don't really have the time or talent to "Watch and anime" anything!

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