I can't read this thread anymore (yeah, I know, big loss, don't let the door hit me on the way out). Somebody talking about "image quality" is talking about cropping and/or zooming to get a "desired" picture. Opinion or not, you are massacring the definition of the word "quality." Please stop saying "image quality." Find some other way to talk about what you're shooting for. How about "dynamic pixel effectiveness maximizing."

Jay G., There must be some deficiency in what this guy is trying to profess technically....maybe you can............correct him.

Most studio high-def masters are 2k resolution. Very few are 4k or higher. A crop from a letterboxed master would show very little difference than zooming in on the Blu-ray yourself.

However, in most cases where a studio goes to the trouble of creating a separate 16:9 full-screen transfer, they do so from the original film elements. In the case of movies shot on Super 35 (which most 2.35:1 movies are these days), the transfer will have some combination of cropping on the sides along with lifting the top and bottom mattes.

If you really want 16:9 modified transfers, try importing some Blu-rays from Canada. Alliance Atlantis has released a number of 2.35:1 movies altered to 16:9, because many of their discs are authored from broadcast HD masters, not the studio masters intended for home video.

Off the top of my head, Blade and Se7en are this way.

Not that I recall. I did have to explain once that a 1.78:1 anamorphic DVD and a 4:3 DVD have the same resolution.

I did get the math wrong on the Blu-ray a bit. the 2.35:1 letterboxed image uses about 76% of the 1080p resolution, and a 1.78:1 crop of that image would be reduced a further 24%. So a 1.78:1 crop of a 2.35:1 image only uses about 55% of the available resolution. However, this is still about 3.35x the resolution of DVD, and still higher than 720p (or even 768p).

Well, I kinda agree with him. Finding a higher-resolution crop of a film is akin to polishing a turd: even though it's shinier, it's still a turd. It is just an opinion though, and the term "quality" is highly subjective.

Related to this, watching/recording HD movies on certain TV stations is a good way to find HD crops of 2.35:1 films. HBO HD would be one choice for seeing 2.35:1 cropped to 1.78:1 without commercials.

This is the most headache-inducing thread - too many numbers!

GOOD STUFF Maynard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jay G., I meant for you to speak to this "technical jargon"......in particular.

It's just made-up BS, probably intended for humorous effect. I don't know what the "proper" technical term for what you desire would be.

Where do you even start to look for these Canadian releases ??? I have no clue.

http://www.amazon.ca/

For example, here's the Se7en Blu-ray:
http://www.amazon.ca/Seven-Blu-ray-M...dp/B001P42Y18/

Off topic, but how hard is it to click the button when you want to quote someone else's posts? Doing so certainly makes things easier to read.

How hard is it to not be smarmy and condescending? I imagine it to be difficult.....just my opinion..............did I use "opinion" properly this time Jay G. ????

Some of your posts, especially the ones that includes multiple quotes from different people, are difficult to read, that's all I'm saying. It would be a courtesy to people trying to follow your posts if you used the forum's quote function. It would also be significantly less work for yourself.

I'm new to this shit Mr. NaCl , I will conform over time with familiarity.

Whats with peoples obsessions to fill the screen? Its understandable that some people have small 4:3 TVs and don't want to have black bars. But on a 60 inch that should be enough picture. Do you really need the couple extra inches at the top and bottom?

Do you really need a blue car instead of a red one? Do you really need cheese on your burger? Do you really need to concern yourself with what goes on in your neighbors bedroom? It's my opinion that you are overly occupied with concerns about other peoples preferences. It's my opinion that you are a white dot on a white page. How about this.......I think every person should be a Buddhist.......let's start today with you...........................have you conformed yet? It's my opinion that you and every poster like you should because it would be beneficial for you. You are losing out by not becoming Buddhist.

You seem to have gotten colored text down pat, which I almost never see anyone else use. Using quote tags should be relatively easy compared to that.

My wife seems to think that a 40" screen is "enough picture" for her, at least for our 9" wide railroad apartment. Other people have front projectors with screens that are measured in feet, not inches. Determining how big is "big enough" is entirely a subjective determination. Personally speaking, I prefer seeing the full proper image rather than a reduced image blown up, but that's just me.

It's the internet. Criticizing other people's opinions is what it's for.

Then I doing my part.......thank you for the recognition!

Seriously though Jay G.,....... your apartment is actually 9 inches wide ???? How do you watch those "Widescreen presentations" in all their glory ??

I was just curious. I don't really understand why the screen has to be filled. Just build a home theater then with a 120 inch screen that would be easier then trying to find modified dvds and blu rays. Or get a subscription to HBO HD they crop everything.

I don't have or want a theater. I bought my TV like most regular people.......they're in and out of Best Buy stores with widescreen 16:9 TVs all day long.....it's no mystery that the dominant method for viewing DVD's and Blu-ray is a 16x9 TV.

I do not want to deny anybody from the theatrical presentation in it's OAR.
Jay G. stated it clearly in defense of my position in an earlier post, that I would prefer that, if a movie is going to be released in a single version, that it be provided in it's original aspect ratio. Any other way would be as an option......that is what I happened to be looking for when I started this thread..........T2 16x9 (1.78:1 >>Blu ray ideally)

You have taught me well "Obe Jay G.anobe".

Here's a thread with info on Canadian Blu-rays.

Canadian Blu-ray Releases - Complete List and Discussion

You can purchase from Amazon Canada. If you have a regular Amazon account in the US, it automatically carries over to all of their international branches. You sign in and order like normal. Amazon.ca will ship to the US.

To your knowledge, is there a blu-ray of T2 (1.78:1 )available anywhere? I tried Amazon Canada......they only seem to have BD 2.35:1 Skynet....just like USA.

in a reverse manner, alot of IMAX DVD and Bluray discs, have been altered from their OAR of 1.44:1 to 1.78:1, this also happens on IMAX-Digital screens that have the same aspect ratio of 16X9 TV/monitors.

What does that mean exactly ? I went to your provided link >> Unrated-alternate Directors-CutsVD