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Is there a list of studio release movies that have been altered from their OAR of 2.35:1 and put on DVD for the purpose of viewing on a 16X9 TV? Thanks much....no opinions please, just facts.

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Original release of Lord Of War made this mistake.

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I know that they opened up (not cropped) "Traitor" to 1.78 from 2.35/2.40 (not sure which) for the DVD release, but kept the OAR for the Blu-ray. It was not a mistake however, but a conscious decision.

Was "Lord of War" cropped on the sides or opened up?

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Both.

--THX

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So, movie companies ...aside from these instances, have never created altered versions of 2.35:1 and wider movies to accomodate the modern day fullscreen equivalent >> 16X9 TV's ?? To be more specific, I clipped a segment from a post elswhere that pretty much says it. >>> Below>>

When they "crop" the film to 1.78:1 (16:9) the entire image fills the screen at the proper high resolution (ie. no loss in quality unlike when one tries to zoom in on a 2.35:1 scope film in order to fill their screen).

This is it exactly. Thanks

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I believe Once Upon a Time in Mexico was cropped to 1.78 from 2.35.

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I think the thread will have to be open longer for a definitive list to pop up.

I know Traitor was altered, although I don't know if it was from 2.35:1. I also know there was a big fuss over Tideland's AR being modified in this way, and Gilliam was angry. I could have sworn ThinkFilm was meant to fix it, but who knows if they ever did.

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The Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs DVD is also guilty of this (but it goes back to OAR for the credits).

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Some of Robert Rodriguez recent movies are guilty of this.
Once upon a time in Mexico
Planet Terror

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Isn't that disc supposed to have separate 2.35:1 and 1.78:1 transfers?

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Technically, you're watching the equivalent of the "full-screen" version when you watch the 1.78:1 version of Cloudy. The original 2.40:1 version should also be on the disc.

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So was Planet Terror reduced from 2:35 down to 1:78?? I didn't realize this when watching it-:(

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My understanding is that Planet Terror was shot flat and then cropped to scope to match the aspect ratio of Death Proof in theaters. Rodriguez's intended composition was 1.85:1, as shown on DVD and Blu-ray.

--THX

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That's probably the case. My wife rented it for my daughter and I noticed that it switched AR for the end credits. Good for Sony for also including the OAR.

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What exactly does it say on the packaging to indicate that the movie is this "fullscreen version " ?

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On Cloudy's back cover (on both editions of the DVD/only edition of the Blu-Ray) it says "16x9 Full Screen Version" under the 1.78:1 ratio symbol and "Anamorphic Widescreen" under the 2.35:1 ratio symbol.

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Was Apocalypse Now originally 2.35:1? I'm fairly certain it was. I'm almost positive that it was, but the DVD (The Complete Dossier Edition, anyway) is 1.78:1

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Conscious decisions can also be mistakes. See below.
It was 2.35:1, but all of the DVD releases have been 2.00:1, not 1.78:1. The cinematographer, Vittorio Storaro, is a proponent of something he calls Univisium. Unfortunately, Storaro favors cropping movies he's already made to the 2.00:1 aspect ratio.

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The Recruit

And Once Upon a Time in Mexico was shot 1.78:1 with HD cameras. Rodriguez matted it to 2.40:1 for theaters but decided to present it open-matte 1.78:1 for the home video.

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Lions Gate released the movie Creep on DVD modified to 16:9:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...ullscreen.html

Lions Gate also released the movie The Snow Walker as 16:9.

The original R-rated cut of 40-Year-Old Virgin was originally available only in 16:9, until Universal relented and released an OAR version.

Some additional informative threads:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/44...io-merged.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...-16-x-9-a.html

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I think that one was 4:3 though. The OAR is 1.85:1.

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Damn, you're right. I saw references to it while re-reading the original Lord of War thread, so I got mixed up.

Do companies still bother with 4:3 releases on DVD? It seems like the default is now WS, even if it's possibly an altered WS.

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Occasionally, although most DVDs are released in some sort of widescreen AR.

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From IMDB:

Aspect ratio
1.85 : 1 (DVD version)
2.35 : 1 (Grindhouse double feature)

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/gr...n-p-13665.html (info here)