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smurr05 01-06-10 02:35 PM

The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
Bought the SD DVD of this film and the only extras are the deleted scenes. No featurettes like on the BD. To me this just sucks plain and simple. Why we get screwed by these companies is totally beyond me. Its like we are being punished for not converting to BD. Totally pisses me off!!!:(

Rypro 525 01-06-10 02:49 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
blame warner, they always seem to do this to us. Observe got nothing, hell 4 christmases and that shitty zac eferon movie got nothing and the blu got more then a few extras

The Monkees 01-06-10 03:31 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
They want people to buy the BD. I don't know about other titles but Final Destination comes with a SD version of the movie.

MrSmearkase 01-06-10 03:32 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
How are you being cheated? It's not as if they advertised SD special features that were nowhere to be found on the disc.

Honestly, I find it nice that they are offering a better package to those who are willing to pay more for a more expensive format.

The Monkees 01-06-10 03:37 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by MrSmearkase (Post 9926743)
Honestly, I find it nice that they are offering a better package to those who are willing to pay more for a more expensive format.

:up:

Gizmo 01-06-10 03:39 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
Go buy a BD player for $100.

Enjoy said Special Features.

Michael Corvin 01-06-10 03:57 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9926756)
Go buy a BD player for $100.

Enjoy said Special Features.

That's too expensive!

philip74 01-06-10 04:04 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
well, since i switched to blu i luckily won`t have a blood pressure of
5000 over this :D
still don`t agree with warner`s release policies though!
i doubt that anybody will switch over a few extras of films such as the final destination :)
why not just give the standard dvd buyers a more expensive special
edition with the extras!? price is the same and money stays in the company
anyhow! i guess they are concentrating all efforts on the new format, with no looking back! unfortunately forgetting that there core clientielle isi still
buying dvds!
although major titles such as dark knight or watchmen to my knowlegde already sell around 1/3 bluray copies on release, i would think that
80-90% of media sold still accounts for standard dvd!?

WMAangel 01-06-10 04:15 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 9926741)
They want people to buy the BD. I don't know about other titles but Final Destination comes with a SD version of the movie.

So true....look, the DVD is on sale this week for $16.99 at Best Buy and Target, OR you can get the BD/DVD/DC combo pack for only $19.99 at those same two stores...for a mere three bucks more, you can future proof yourself so that when you finally do get around to picking up a BD player, then you'll already have the disc to watch with the bonus features then, but you can still have the DVD to watch the movie now....

Flicker 01-06-10 04:26 PM

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I wish I had paid the extra $3 today at Best Buy and got that edition. Some day I will have a Blue Ray player (maybe recorder?) but I am not going to spend a lot of money now buying Blue Ray discs.
As WMAangel said, for 19.99 you get both versions. I may not open mine and exchange it.

OldBoy 01-06-10 04:26 PM

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this argument is getting so fucking old.

Groucho 01-06-10 04:40 PM

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I AM TIRED FO BLUEWRAY PEOPLE SITTING IN THERE SMOKE FILLED IVORY TOWERS DOLING OUT SPECIAL FEATURES IN CRUMBS TO THE DVD PEOPLE. lET THEM EAT CAKE I SAY!!!!

JakeNeff 01-06-10 04:54 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
I'm being cheated. Bought a VHS movie and there are no featurettes. To me this just sucks plain and simple. Why we get screwed by these companies is totally beyond me. Its like we are being punished for not converting to DVD. Totally pisses me off!!!

Boba Fett 01-06-10 05:21 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
I would say the people stuck having to watch the special features of "The Final Destination" are the ones getting cheated.

DJariya 01-06-10 05:46 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 
You could have looked on the back of the DVD case and seen what the special features were before buying the DVD if they are that important to you.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 01-06-10 06:12 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by JakeNeff (Post 9926943)
I'm being cheated. Bought a VHS movie and there are no featurettes. To me this just sucks plain and simple. Why we get screwed by these companies is totally beyond me. Its like we are being punished for not converting to DVD. Totally pisses me off!!!

You should buy Pulp Fiction. It came with tons of deleted scenes that were horribly long.

In Japan, you can get Austin Powers, on VHS, with the deleted scenes inserted into the movie. That's the first way I watched it. Later on when I watched it on DVD and went to the deleted scenes, I was confused. I'd seen these before in the movie. Went back and realized they weren't there anymore.

Gizmo 01-06-10 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9926904)
I AM TIRED FO BLUEWRAY PEOPLE SITTING IN THERE SMOKE FILLED IVORY TOWERS DOLING OUT SPECIAL FEATURES IN CRUMBS TO THE DVD PEOPLE. lET THEM EAT CAKE I SAY!!!!

:lol:

It's blue ray, moran.

adrenaline78 01-06-10 07:40 PM

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Don't you have to buy the " deluxe" version on SD if you want any of the extras these days?

My Other Self 01-06-10 08:12 PM

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With BD players as cheap as they are now, and BD films being priced cheaper than DVD, I don't understand people that won't switch over based purely on "principle" - but will then bitch and moan when the DVDs aren't as featured packed.

The docs and all of that special crap is always geared towards your movie fan - not some casual schlub. A lot of movie fans have upgraded to Blu-ray, especially this past holiday season. Don't like it? Don't buy in to it, but everyone else will. Bitching on how they're making you change your spending habits and what you buy isn't going to fix anything. It's a tired argument.

Them's the brakes of being a movie fan. I couldn't tell you how many different copies I have of some movies. Shit happens.

Mondo Kane 01-06-10 08:32 PM

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But by the time he upgrades to Blu, the 3Dformat will be set to go...

What can ya do?

Kurt D 01-06-10 09:29 PM

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Clearly the only option is to go back to the ways of the fiefdom, what with the wandering troubadours and all. That way, if you have a complaint, you can just punch the troubadour in the face.

Evan Meadow 01-07-10 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 9927032)
You could have looked on the back of the DVD case and seen what the special features were before buying the DVD if they are that important to you.

Yeah this quote says at all.

So far it looks like Whiteout when it comes out in 2 weeks will be carrying the same extras across both discs. Therefore its an easy choice to buy the cheaper DVD version, just like I did with Marine 2 after comparing the 2 movies in Best Buy.

This is why we coined the phrase Buyer Beware.

matome 01-07-10 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9926904)
I AM TIRED FO BLUEWRAY PEOPLE SITTING IN THERE SMOKE FILLED IVORY TOWERS DOLING OUT SPECIAL FEATURES IN CRUMBS TO THE DVD PEOPLE. lET THEM EAT CAKE I SAY!!!!

:up::lol:

outlander78 01-07-10 08:15 AM

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I've made the switch to free rentals from my local library, augmented by cheap rentals from zip.ca (similar to netflix), largely due to this kind of thing. It hasn't affected my viewing at all, just my bank balance. Maybe you should try the same thing.

Joseph B 01-07-10 10:38 AM

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I use to be upset by this ... Heck, not just due to the lack of supplements on the DVD vs Blu-ray of the movie, but also the sub-par MPEG-2 transfers that Warners new title division has been foisting on consumers of late. The recent "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" DVD is an (extreme) example of this.

But we upgraded to Blu-ray over the holidays (got a Panny BDP-601 at WalMart for just $128); and I have to admit that the format is quite nice. And WalMart is now selling the Blu-rays of many titles for the same price as their DVD counterparts.

So the bottom line is... I *hate* the way Warners is treating the long time DVD enthusiasts, but I have to admit that I'm now very happy to have a Blu-ray player in my house.

toddly6666 01-07-10 11:22 AM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by smurr05 (Post 9926647)
Bought the SD DVD of this film and the only extras are the deleted scenes. Totally pisses me off!!!:(

You cheated yourself by even buying this movie on DVD. Can someone please explain to me why anyone would want to see extras to "The Final Destination?" I can understand seeing the extras for the making of a movie like Avatar or District 9, but what is the behind-the-scenes back story to The Final Destination that someone would be interested in?

outlander78 01-07-10 11:27 AM

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I did not know that the transfers to DVD were being degraded as well. Why don't they just stop selling them?

davidh777 01-07-10 11:28 AM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by philip74 (Post 9926808)
why not just give the standard dvd buyers a more expensive special
edition with the extras!?


Originally Posted by adrenaline78 (Post 9927249)
Don't you have to buy the " deluxe" version on SD if you want any of the extras these days?

Warner released The Hangover and Harry Potter with two-disc SD options, but not their other big titles (Terminator, 4Xmas, etc.). Clearly they're picking and choosing when to offer special SD versions, and apparently the return isn't good enough for them to create an extra SKU even when they have the extra content already produced.


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9927116)
:lol:

It's blue ray, moran.

:lol:

Barrybgb 01-07-10 11:48 AM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by smurr05 (Post 9926647)
Bought the SD DVD of this film and the only extras are the deleted scenes. No featurettes like on the BD. To me this just sucks plain and simple. Why we get screwed by these companies is totally beyond me. Its like we are being punished for not converting to BD. Totally pisses me off!!!:(

It really is awful. Warner is definitley the worst. It pisses me off too that we don't get a lot of the special features anymore because they want to bully you into Blu-ray, even tho DVD is still, far and away, the #1 choice for people. Not only do we miss out, but a lot of work that went into the making of extras are now seen by less people. They put a 2 minute preview of the new A Nightmare On Elm Street on the FD Blu-ray, but wouldn't you think they would want to promote the new movie even more by putting it on DVD as well which will sell more?. It's absolutely ridiculous, and the more bullying they get(I'm looking at you Waners!) the less it makes me want to buy any of their stuff.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 01-07-10 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrybgb (Post 9928381)
It's absolutely ridiculous, and the more bullying they get(I'm looking at you Waners!) the less it makes me want to buy any of their stuff.

I've never been bullied by a movie company.

DouglasRobert 01-07-10 12:39 PM

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I have really cut down on the number of WB DVDs I buy now because of this.

I wonder how many others have done the same?


I was planning on buying a BR player this past Christmas but plans got screwed up, so that'll have to wait for now.

toddly6666 01-07-10 02:19 PM

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DVD = the new VHS

Was there ever a movie released on VHS that had some type of making-of after the credits? I could have sworn some VHS movies had that.

emachine12 01-07-10 02:42 PM

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The DVD and Blu-ray Disc for the last film feel anemic thanks to Warner taking over.

I mean Final Destination got a great DVD and BD, Final Destination 2 uppped that with the Infinifilm fact tracks on DVD, and the DVD for Final Destination 3 added more with the Choose Your Fate feature.

So what happened?

We get the poor red & blue anaglyph 3D and 2D versions of the film and some very weak extras. Especially the DVD which could have benefitted from the additional featurettes and they could have MOVED the 3D version to another disc so the 2D version of the film could have some interactive features like FD2 & FD3. Hell, the Blu-ray could have pushed that even more with a picture-in-picture track.

Oh well, Warner seems to be making some dumb moves as of late and it will just worse before it gets worse.

jjcool 01-07-10 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 9926995)
I would say the people stuck having to watch the special features of "The Final Destination" are the ones getting cheated.

The poor saps that actually bought the movie, whether on dvd or blue ray, are the real cheated ones here, I say.

notkevinbacon 01-07-10 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 9928730)
DVD = the new VHS

Was there ever a movie released on VHS that had some type of making-of after the credits? I could have sworn some VHS movies had that.

I remember I had a copy of Jaws on VHS that was a 2 tape set and had a making of doc or something like that on the second tape.

outlander78 01-07-10 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by notkevinbacon (Post 9928800)
I remember I had a copy of Jaws on VHS that was a 2 tape set and had a making of doc or something like that on the second tape.

I still have that. The second tape was a feature-length documentary, which I enjoyed at least as much as the movie.

clckworang 01-07-10 03:38 PM

Re: The Final Destination SD-We get cheated again!!!
 

Originally Posted by Barrybgb (Post 9928381)
It really is awful. Warner is definitley the worst. It pisses me off too that we don't get a lot of the special features anymore because they want to bully you into Blu-ray, even tho DVD is still, far and away, the #1 choice for people. Not only do we miss out, but a lot of work that went into the making of extras are now seen by less people. They put a 2 minute preview of the new A Nightmare On Elm Street on the FD Blu-ray, but wouldn't you think they would want to promote the new movie even more by putting it on DVD as well which will sell more?. It's absolutely ridiculous, and the more bullying they get(I'm looking at you Waners!) the less it makes me want to buy any of their stuff.

I'm a person. It's not far and away my No. 1 choice. No one is forcing you to buy anything. Extra features are just that ... extras, something in addition to what you are buying. WB looks at it as people are buying the film, not the 30 minutes or whatever of featurettes. They don't have to be obligated to release everything the same. If you are interested in those, featurettes, you have a viable option to you; you just don't want to take advantage of it. Just like people late to DVD could buy the VHS but wouldn't usually get any extras (some exceptions, of course).

I think a lot of DVD buyers have just become spoiled.


Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9928788)
Oh well, Warner seems to be making some dumb moves as of late and it will just worse before it gets worse.

:hscratch: Things will get worse before it gets worse? I think things will get worse at the same time that things get worse. Otherwise, they would have already gotten worse.

clckworang 01-07-10 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by notkevinbacon (Post 9928800)
I remember I had a copy of Jaws on VHS that was a 2 tape set and had a making of doc or something like that on the second tape.

I seem to remember seeing a 2-tape edition of Fargo that came with a snow globe and the second tape (I think) had an audio commentary. I never bought it, but I was always tempted. I think it was released during the last twitches of life of VHS when it was still trying to compete with DVD.

davidh777 01-07-10 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 9928730)
Was there ever a movie released on VHS that had some type of making-of after the credits? I could have sworn some VHS movies had that.

Yeah, I had some. Music Man was one.


Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9928788)
The DVD and Blu-ray Disc for the last film feel anemic thanks to Warner taking over.

I mean Final Destination got a great DVD and BD, Final Destination 2 uppped that with the Infinifilm fact tracks on DVD, and the DVD for Final Destination 3 added more with the Choose Your Fate feature.

Weren't the older ones (or at least some of them) New Line Platinum Series? They put out some great stuff. They are also no longer their own company, though I don't think the Platinum Series was the problem.


Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 9928937)
:hscratch: Things will get worse before it gets worse? I think things will get worse at the same time that things get worse. Otherwise, they would have already gotten worse.

lol

toddly6666 01-07-10 04:11 PM

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That would have been funny if DVD never came to be but extras got popular - VHS boxsets:

VHS tape 1: Feature film (widescreen letterboxed version)
VHS tape 2: Documentary
VHS tape 3: Feature film with audio commentary voice over dubbing
VHS tape 4: 5 minuts of deleted scenes
VHS tape 5: Feature film (pan and Scan version)
Cassette Tape Bonus: movie soundtrack

All for the retail price of $99!


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