figuratively and literally.

Last year, there was a pretty good discussion going about the movie on a review over at Twitchfilm which you can find here:
http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/frig...uiers-martyrs/

Remember that Laugier has publicly said he has no problem with the "torture-porn" label, and he loved Hostel and wanted to make a similar-themed movie.

well, i don't think the torture scenes were as graphic as Hostel (save for the scene), but i think the overall material in this far surpasses the mindless nature of Hostel.

Serious question, who originally coined the term "torture porn" anyway?

I personally hate the term

Also apparently Pascal Laugier said a Martyrs remake is already being planned.

In a New York magazine article by film critic David Edelstein entitled "Now Playing at Your Local Multiplex: Torture Porn", the term “torture porn” was first coined.

Yeah, I already heard about the remake. I wish I could say I'm surprised by it, but I'm not that naive. I'm going to wait for the remake of the remake with Blake Lively in the lead role. Which I'm guessing would come out after Jaume Balagueró's possible remake of "Inside".

Oh, and count me in as another who hates that term. Obviously these people have never seen torture. Or porn.

This is exactly what I thought. But Dino's view takes it one step beyond.

Either way it was fricking great.

why fix something that aint broke? - remakes of both films seem:

Yup

Also I would like to mention the person who coined the term "gorno" also needs a swift kick to the face.

I found it interesting that Whole Foods shelves have been labeled "produce porn" due to the glistening, colorful, perfectly shaped appearances of their items. I cry horseshit, but still found it funny.

Borders tends to be slow with getting new issues... at least the two in New Orleans are slow I mean. B&N is quicker about it but they tend to get one issue a few weeks after the photo most recent one has been posted on their myspace profile (so to make this sentence more understandable; the bookstore tends to be a month behid).


Martyrs looks great, love the reviews and articles I've read.

I love horror mags...I always auction mine on ebay for a dollar.

Well, if you read the review he also calls Funny Games "intellectual" so... that's all you need to know about him in a nutshell..

I'd rather sit through Martyrs skinless awaiting death than sit through either Funny Games while sitting next to Megan Fox with her hand in my pants. That's how boring those films were.

Well I'm a bit disappointed w/ Wherehouse.com. I finally received Martyrs, but no slip-case. What to do what to do

I've got a slipcase I might just give to you.

One of the few times with DVD's nowadays where the slipcase art is different than the jacket artwork

I guess I'm lucky the Borders I go to (and work at) is pretty good with new issues of all magazines. Usually it depends on who is in charge of the Newsstand items and how much care they put into it.

The guy who works our store is fantastic and gets pretty much 98% of stock out soon after we receive them (and we receive A LOT at one time). Oddly enough we tend to get issues of Rue Morgue a little earlier than Fangoria most of the time.

huh? i just got it at Walmart and the slipcase is the same art as the keepcase art...

Does your version have a large UNRATED on the cover? Elsewhere someone posted a pic of an eBay auction where the cover didn't have unrated written on it. The cover had a sticker for Wal-mart. You might want to check that they don't have a cut version for sale.

I have the UNRATED version, and the slipcase is the two girls. The artwork underneath is someone peering from behind a bathtub. The word unrated is featured on both artworks.

Weird. I got mine at Best Buy and this is what mine looked like...

FUCK! Didn't even notice. i had such a bad day today, i guess this was to be expected.
Do you think they will take it back if i say i wanted UR?

I posted how I felt about the film in the "disturbing films" thread already, but I really cannot express how much I disagree with Cameron's dvdtalk review, especially coming from a fellow fan of horror, and more specifically, a fan of intellectual avant-garde horror like Funny Games.

The film's concept and divided-act approach was undeniably original to me, the photography was pitch-perfect, the acting certainly did not lack, the violence was unsettlingly stomach-turning and brilliantly conceived, and it truly left so much for the viewer to question without coming off as art-*** ambiguous or metaphysically impossible (High Tension: I'm looking at YOU).

I had no problem with the Webster definition of the film's title, as it gave an inch of closure to the point of the torture centralized in the film.

Brilliant! I felt inredibly pleased to see such tasteful, smarty-pants horror films such as Martyrs, Let the Right One In, The Descent, The Orphanage, Shadow of the Vampire, 28 Days Later, and Audition to grace this decade. With Martyrs though, you receive the added bonus of sitting through some challenging as hell scenes of brutality.

If it's still sealed with a receipt dated within 30 days, you can say anything and a retail store should take it back.

If it's open YMMV, as sometimes retail stores will make exceptions based on whatever Manager/Supervisor is on duty.

not sealed. i always take off minute i get home

no site even lists an 'R' rated version and IMDb doesn't even have an alternate version listing. anyone know what the differences are?

what i am going to do is print the only 2 listings Walmart has on website. both say Unrated in description and picture and use that to hopefully plead my case.

if not perhaps i can get them to order the Unrated version as "site to store" is an option for the UR and then exchange.

if i can't do either i would sell it $12.00 shipped to any takers...

what do ya think?

Walmart is very YMMV compared to other retailers, in a good way though. I've seen various stores take some very questionable returns back.

Good luck getting your exchange though. Not sure if anyone here would bite on the cut version of the film though

I think it was well known that there was an alternate cut of the film being released to certain stores (Blockbuster, Walmart) but like you I hadn't seen any comparisons of the cuts.

Thanks a lot for the offer Giles, but problem solved.

And this is where I solved my problem. I went and bought a different copy at Walmart, removed the slipcase and returned it. Is this wrong? At least their copy had the same artwork on both, so no ones missing out on anything....right? Plus most of them get all smashed from the way they are stored behind those metal things...I had to grab one from the back that wasn't already tore up.

I didn't even notice that it didn't say "Unrated" on the copy until I read Scott's post. So that's even better bc I hate those labels on the artwork.