What kind of cuts were made for syndication?

Syndication cuts are just for time constraints so the network can squeeze in more commercials. Usually just extended dialogue or bits that don't add to the plot. It's nothing significant, but it's not the way it was first broadcast.

Yeah, I was just curious about specifics for the X-Men series.

Unless there's some fan site with detailed knowledge of all the syndication cuts for the whole series, I have no idea myself. Google didn't bring up anything. I know there's dedicated fans of the show but I have not come across a definitive list of what was chopped out when it aired on ABC Family or Toon Disney.

Significant or not, I refuse to purchase a show that only presents the syndicated cuts of episodes on principle....
I don't care if they are in "better shape" transfer-wise or not (ALF for example), all shows should be presented in their original broadcast form, unless footage is permanently lost, or music replacements absolutely must be made (meaning the alternative is there would be no release at all).....
I snagged these two volumes today with a price match at Walmart (since I had a store credit to there)....however I will be leaving them sealed until I find conclusive evidence of their original cut status in the next few days....I am sure by then some of the more hardcore fans will discover if anything is messed up and report it to the world (as they did with Transformers, etc.)....

I see people around here say this sort of thing all the time, but I fail to understand the logic behind it. They are never going to release certain shows in their original broadcast form. You "boycotting" the release doesn't harm the studios in the least. I agree that they should and I agree that it is stupid they release syndicated versions of shows, but at the end of the day there is nothing you or I can do to change that fact. Sure, you have the argument that they won't get your money, but in the end, does that even matter? You are the one that is missing out. You are the one that won't be able to watch the show. So yeah, enjoy not watching the show ever again because there are like 2 seconds less of footage in an episode. I'm sure in the long run you'll be glad you did.

If you want to spend your hard-earned money on an edited release, go right ahead....I'd rather not own it and save my cash than purchase it, what's hard to understand about that logic? There are only two choices when it comes to permanent ownership of a DVD release: Buy or don't buy.

If I cannot own the show in a form that I consider acceptable, then I do not buy it. It DOES harm the studio as they do not have my money. While one purchase obviously does not make or break their bank, it is still one less sale than they would have had, and the loss of whatever profit they could have made....

Really? Ever heard of two shows named Rosanne or The Cosby Show?
The first seasons of both shows were released with the syndicated cuts....fans complained, and subsequent seasons were released with the full length broadcast versions....

One person probably would not make a difference, but if enough people complain then as I mentioned above, sometimes it has caused changes....

OK, I guess you have never heard of Netflix, or Blockbuster, or the library, or repeats/TV syndication, or Youtube/Hulu/any other number of ways you can view things nowadays....

HA, OK there buddy, only two seconds, good one

Those shows, which numerous seasons after the first, pissing off the fans is not something the studios want to do. They knew it would be a big seller and fans boycotting the first season would mean a boycott of the next 7 (or however long they lasted). X-Men only has 2, possibly 3 Volumes if these 2 sell well.

Obviously I understand the logic behind it. Perhaps what I meant to say was I think it is stupid and serves no purpose.

You say it harms the studio, and sure, they might lose a little but of money, but when you are talking the volume they deal in, one probably doesn't matter. Also, I wonder if you hurt the studio or the retailers more, seeing as how you are purchasing it through a retailer and not directly from the manufacturer.

Like Gizmo said, there is a big difference between The Cosby Show and X-Men Animated. But even so...the first season of The Cosby Show was the syndicated cut and they released all subsequent seasons in their original broadcast versions. So that would mean, assuming you are a fan of the shows, you own every season but the first?

Do you actually complain? I'm just curious, because it is all well and good to post your thoughts on a forum, but unless you are actually writing the company and expressing your thoughts to them, then there really isn't a point is there? Frankly, I don't think X-Men Animated has enough followers to make an impression.

And don't forget, that if not enough people buy the DVDs in the first place, then the rest might not get released...period. So if people like you decide to "take the high road" and abstain from purchasing the show, then, well, the rest of the show never sees the light of day.

I think saying you can watch them using Netflix or Blockbuster is kind of hypocritical. You have this big thing about not purchasing these DVDs, about not giving your money to the studios, and yet you are fine with giving your money to an intermediary who already gave money to the studios. See the problem there? And don't forget what I said before, if enough people don't buy the show, then the studios may not release more seasons/volumes in the future, and these rental chains will not be able to rent to you.

What channel are you watching that X-Men Animated is on syndication in 2009? And for me, I'd rather pay $16 bucks per release than have to track the releases down on YouTube or Hulu (I doubt severely that you can watch this show on Hulu). And last time I checked, YouTube and "other ways" isn't exactly legal. Sure, it's out there, but full episodes are not supposed to be on YouTube like that. And it speaks volumes when you won't pay for a product on semi-moral grounds that the releases should be intact, but you have no problem "stealing" them.

Obviously I was exaggerating, but please, tell me, where do you draw the line? What if they didn't include the "Previously on X-Men" or what if they scrap the Credits? Would you refuse to buy if either of those were gone? Seems awfully silly to me to refuse to buy an entire show because some episodes may be missing one minute.

Care to take it to PMs, guys? Unless you have info re: edits to these sets, of course.

So, my Wal-Mart sold out of these by 5 PM today. Bring on the rest of the series!

empty racks in 3 of the best buys I went to purchase volume 1 & 2. Came home and ordered it off amazon.com, where if you choose to bundle your order and buy both you get vol. 1 & 2 for a total of $30.98, Which is 5 dollars cheaper then best buy's special.

From what I've read Best Buy has sold a lot of copies already. I hope as many people as possible pick these sets up, and if you know anyone who would be interested in these or if you think you can convince someone to buy them, please tell anyone you can that these are out now.

What's a flipper case ? Don't you mean flipper disc ?

No, it's not a flipper disc. Its a standard amaray style case with the hinged center flap.

All things considered I think these look pretty decent. The show is holding up very well for me and I didn't even watch it much back then. Glad to hear it's selling well. I hope they complete the series this way.

No purpose? It serves the purpose of me not spending my money on a release that I don't feel is worth buying and owning.....like I said before, if you love a show and will take it in whatever form it is released in, then I'm happy for you....personally, I do not want to buy a show if it is only offered in the syndicated/edited version....what is stupid about that? In my opinion, I'd rather not spend my cash and own a product I would be unhappy about....

Thanks for repeating exactly what I said.....

I never said Cosby or Roseanne were the same as X-Men, I was just giving two quick examples of shows where complaints about syndicated cuts caused changes, as your original post said: "it is stupid they release syndicated versions of shows, but at the end of the day there is nothing you or I can do to change that fact." Obviously that is an incorrect statement....

For the record, I do not own either The Cosby Show or Roseanne....also, they did reissue the first season of The Cosby Show with the original broadcast versions of the episodes in the complete series boxset.....

I complained about Alf, and did write to the company in that instance....I also did not purchase any of that series due to the use of syndicated cuts...luckily, the use of syndicated cuts is not a very widespread problem as I think probably 98% or more of the TV DVDs that have been released do not suffer this problem....
All of the other shows I own were released in pretty much their original broadcast versions (definitely not their syndicated versions), give or take some music replacements here and there which I have already stated as not something that really bothers me like some other more hardcore collectors....I am not that much of purist, but I am opposed to syndicated cuts that can take 2 minutes of footage away from "30 minute" shows, and 4 minutes out of "hour" shows....

And if they are only going to release more of the series with syndicated cuts then why at that point do I care if more of it is released when I am not buying it to begin with due to the edited episodes?

I never said I was taking any "high road"....I just would rather not own a show at all than buy one that is only available in a truncated version...from what you are saying, I should buy a release just so other people who are happy with edited episodes will get more of it released?

You didn't understand the point I was making....your original post said "You are the one that is missing out. You are the one that won't be able to watch the show." based on the fact that I did not want to purchase and own them if they were syndicated cuts, as if there was no way I would ever be able to watch them....I was pointing out that there are a multitude of different ways to be able to view things without going out and buying the DVDs themselves....
The mail-order rental chains have already purchased their copies for rental...as a paying member of their website, you are automatically contributing to the purchase of their inventory, including plenty of things I would never actually purchase myself, like fullscreen discs for example....
Those same two compaines even rent those Alf season I wouldn't purchase myself...are you trying to say I am a hypocrite for ever joining Netflix or Blockbuster Online? Should I never pay a monthly fee for unlimited rentals since that money is used for them to buy new discs for their service, ones I have no interest in buying myself?

Disney XD

Which is something you are entirely entitled to do, I just don't get why you have such a problem with people who do not feel the same way....seriously, what is so hard to understand about someone now wanting to buy a show if they don't like the way it is being offered?

Whoa there, when did I say anything about stealing? Whether or not you think things are "supposed" to be on YouTube, it doesn't change the fact that they are there to be viewed, and Disney can complain any day they want and have YouTube take them down, I'm sure.....And why do you still think this is some "moral" issue? It is just my personal preference not to buy shows presented only in their syndicated version, and I'm not even anywhere near as hardcore as others out there....have you even seen the Disney people who have gone ballistic over a missing WORD of dialogue in the recent release of Pinocchio?

I have already stated where my lines are drawn, specifically I do not purchase shows where footage has been removed for syndicated edits....
"Previously on" segments I would have to consider on a show by show basis...same with credits....these are not things that actually take place during episodes.....I have already said that I do not mind music replacement, as many series would not be released otherwise due to the high costs of music licensing....

**BACK ON TOPIC**
I read posts by a couple people in a couple toon forums, saying after comparison these releases do look to be uncut, good job Disney!

I saw numerous copies yesterday at my Walmart. They were $20 a pop though so I held off and will just get them on amazon.

i posted this on the slip case form but this threads getting more action,

i live in toronto. i bought x-men animated volume 1 & 2.

volume 2 came with a slip cover but volume 1 did not. i asked the clerk and he said that volume one didnt have a slipcover when he put them out.

i just want to know if a volume 1 slip case does exist, becasue some stores had no slip covers for volume 2 and some did. so far i havent seen one for volume one but id like to kno.


thanks

Sweet possible cover art for V3:

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Men-Volume-3/11789

Slip cover? I got Vol 1 and Vol 2 directly from Disney (reviewer) and neither included a slip cover. If this is true I need to get them. Can you post a picture of yours?

i do not own a camera, the slip cover for volume 2 is holographic, and there are some indents around the characters faces/bodys to make it stick out a bit (like bond on the casino royale 2-disc slip cover)

the back has a slit in it similar to the enchanted slip cover its long and rectangular but has been rounded.

i tried my best to explain it.

Cool, if V3 is a given I think i'll order these from Amazon.

Nice...Ill have to track it down then.

Maybe the slip cover was Canadian only. I just got back from Fry's and Best Buy today and neither had them.

I would think there'd be some pic online of a slipcover today given it came out yesterday. I'll have to do some digging around.

Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 are a given. David Nakayama said he's working on both.