Wrong Turn 2: Dead End --> Oct 9 2007
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
After reading the synopsis and checking out the stills this went from "most likely crap" to "99.95% guarenteed crap".
Oh well, that still leaves a little hope.
Oh well, that still leaves a little hope.
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I liked the first one, and will check this one out, at least to see Henry Rollins kick some ass!!
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Originally Posted by Giggles
Yeah, that leaves just 0.05% of hope. Miserable percentage in my opinion 

Then I look at Hills Have Eyes 2. I loved the first re-make, and I may be blaspheming but I think it was better in many ways than the original (lets face it, IMHO the original wasn't exactly a "classic" in the sense of Halloween or Texas Chainsaw). Hearing the god awful reviews of HHE2 I told myself it was simply haters heaping on more of the same, until I finally saw it two nights ago. It was terrible in every way possible.
It was as if they took everything that worked in the first one and shit all over it. They took a semi-plausible setup story and made silly and unrealistic. They took fairly well developed and likable characters and turned them into poorly acted, paper thin, unlikable clichés. Given the chance to delve deeper into the interesting history of the mutants they threw it all out and made them mindless monsters (if any movie needed a "Beginning", it wasn't TCM but this one).
So, how could they almost guarantee screwing up Wrong Turn 2? I don't know? How about adding the "Reality TV" aspect, that's a fresh new idea that's worked every time it’s been used in a horror movie.
End Rant.
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
As one of the few who really, really like Wrong Turn (and I know you join me) I keep saying to myself, "how can they screw up such a simple idea, follow the formula, add a few new bits, and you practically can't miss."
Then I look at Hills Have Eyes 2. I loved the first re-make, and I may be blaspheming but I think it was better in many ways than the original (lets face it, IMHO the original wasn't exactly a "classic" in the sense of Halloween or Texas Chainsaw). Hearing the god awful reviews of HHE2 I told myself it was simply haters heaping on more of the same, until I finally saw it two nights ago. It was terrible in every way possible.
It was as if they took everything that worked in the first one and shit all over it. They took a semi-plausible setup story and made silly and unrealistic. They took fairly well developed and likable characters and turned them into poorly acted, paper thin, unlikable clichés. Given the chance to delve deeper into the interesting history of the mutants they threw it all out and made them mindless monsters (if any movie needed a "Beginning", it wasn't TCM but this one).
So, how could they almost guarantee screwing up Wrong Turn 2? I don't know? How about adding the "Reality TV" aspect, that's a fresh new idea that's worked every time it’s been used in a horror movie.
End Rant.
Then I look at Hills Have Eyes 2. I loved the first re-make, and I may be blaspheming but I think it was better in many ways than the original (lets face it, IMHO the original wasn't exactly a "classic" in the sense of Halloween or Texas Chainsaw). Hearing the god awful reviews of HHE2 I told myself it was simply haters heaping on more of the same, until I finally saw it two nights ago. It was terrible in every way possible.
It was as if they took everything that worked in the first one and shit all over it. They took a semi-plausible setup story and made silly and unrealistic. They took fairly well developed and likable characters and turned them into poorly acted, paper thin, unlikable clichés. Given the chance to delve deeper into the interesting history of the mutants they threw it all out and made them mindless monsters (if any movie needed a "Beginning", it wasn't TCM but this one).
So, how could they almost guarantee screwing up Wrong Turn 2? I don't know? How about adding the "Reality TV" aspect, that's a fresh new idea that's worked every time it’s been used in a horror movie.
End Rant.
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
As one of the few who really, really like Wrong Turn (and I know you join me) I keep saying to myself, "how can they screw up such a simple idea, follow the formula, add a few new bits, and you practically can't miss."
Then I look at Hills Have Eyes 2. I loved the first re-make, and I may be blaspheming but I think it was better in many ways than the original (lets face it, IMHO the original wasn't exactly a "classic" in the sense of Halloween or Texas Chainsaw). Hearing the god awful reviews of HHE2 I told myself it was simply haters heaping on more of the same, until I finally saw it two nights ago. It was terrible in every way possible.
It was as if they took everything that worked in the first one and shit all over it. They took a semi-plausible setup story and made silly and unrealistic. They took fairly well developed and likable characters and turned them into poorly acted, paper thin, unlikable clichés. Given the chance to delve deeper into the interesting history of the mutants they threw it all out and made them mindless monsters (if any movie needed a "Beginning", it wasn't TCM but this one).
So, how could they almost guarantee screwing up Wrong Turn 2? I don't know? How about adding the "Reality TV" aspect, that's a fresh new idea that's worked every time it’s been used in a horror movie.
End Rant.
Then I look at Hills Have Eyes 2. I loved the first re-make, and I may be blaspheming but I think it was better in many ways than the original (lets face it, IMHO the original wasn't exactly a "classic" in the sense of Halloween or Texas Chainsaw). Hearing the god awful reviews of HHE2 I told myself it was simply haters heaping on more of the same, until I finally saw it two nights ago. It was terrible in every way possible.
It was as if they took everything that worked in the first one and shit all over it. They took a semi-plausible setup story and made silly and unrealistic. They took fairly well developed and likable characters and turned them into poorly acted, paper thin, unlikable clichés. Given the chance to delve deeper into the interesting history of the mutants they threw it all out and made them mindless monsters (if any movie needed a "Beginning", it wasn't TCM but this one).
So, how could they almost guarantee screwing up Wrong Turn 2? I don't know? How about adding the "Reality TV" aspect, that's a fresh new idea that's worked every time it’s been used in a horror movie.
End Rant.
Some obscure director, little-known actors... I have utmost respect for Henry Rollins, I like him as an actor, as a misician and just as an eccentric person, but can you recall one decent movie he was in?
They think they can attract audience by Ken Kirzinger who played Jason in Freddy vs. Jason? That's cheap. He's not even Kane Hodder! And all those straight-to-video or limited theater release sequels... They don't smell good from the very beginning. By the way I don't think you're blaspheming about original HHE. Although Wes Craven is a reputable classic and I like his flicks, he always liked to make schlock. And although HHE is less schlock than some of his other films, it still bears this brand of the master
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Originally Posted by Giggles
I have utmost respect for Henry Rollins, I like him as an actor, as a misician and just as an eccentric person, but can you recall one decent movie he was in? 

Feast was a fun movie as well.
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^^
I would also add The Chase
"For me, it's the respect and power that the position commands. I don't know whether to be busting bad guys or signing autographs. It's kinda like being a star. "
I would also add The Chase
"For me, it's the respect and power that the position commands. I don't know whether to be busting bad guys or signing autographs. It's kinda like being a star. "
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Originally Posted by Giggles
A bit traditional - looks like all the recent covers of such films, but I like it, just like all the others of the kind.
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Originally Posted by Peep
I have to ask... how many different copies to you have of "Wrong Turn"?


Well, actually I'm more of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre DVDs maniac...
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Originally Posted by Giggles
Yes, Wrong Turn is a true love of mine. Along with Jeepers Creepers and Haute tension this film started a whole new wave of horror, and it will be a shame to witness this disaster as I hold no hope.
Wrong Turn: $15 million domestic box office gross.
Jeepers Creepers: $40 million domestic box office gross.
High Tension: $4 million domestic box office gross.
The only one that should be counted in that is Jeepers Creepers. The sleeper success of that led to more horror films being greenlit by major studios such as Freedy Vs. Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, and Final Destinaiton 2. This is in addition to Lionsgate picking up a little film called Saw, which has history shown, spawned two sequels doing more than $80 million each.
I would say those specific films brought horror back to the forefront. For example, if it wasn't for Saw, The Hills Have Eyes and Hostel would've never got the attention or releases they got. If it wasn't for the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we wouldn't have the sequel, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and so on and so on. See where I'm going with this? There were films before and after the release of Wrong Turn that had an actual impact on the genre as a whole. You know why Wrong Turn and High Tension didn't have any impact? Because one, both films suck, and two, nobody fucking saw them.
The only reason I'm semi-interested in this direct-to-video trainwreck is because of Henry Rollins. The man could videotape himself painting a wall and it would be entertaining within itself. However if this effort is anything like Fox's last horror sequel -- The Hills Have Eyes 2 -- I'd rather gauge my eyes out.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Are you serious? Like really, are you serious?
Wrong Turn: $15 million domestic box office gross.
Jeepers Creepers: $40 million domestic box office gross.
High Tension: $4 million domestic box office gross.
The only one that should be counted in that is Jeepers Creepers. The sleeper success of that led to more horror films being greenlit by major studios such as Freedy Vs. Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, and Final Destinaiton 2. This is in addition to Lionsgate picking up a little film called Saw, which has history shown, spawned two sequels doing more than $80 million each.
I would say those specific films brought horror back to the forefront. For example, if it wasn't for Saw, The Hills Have Eyes and Hostel would've never got the attention or releases they got. If it wasn't for the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we wouldn't have the sequel, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and so on and so on. See where I'm going with this? There were films before and after the release of Wrong Turn that had an actual impact on the genre as a whole. You know why Wrong Turn and High Tension didn't have any impact? Because one, both films suck, and two, nobody fucking saw them.
The only reason I'm semi-interested in this direct-to-video trainwreck is because of Henry Rollins. The man could videotape himself painting a wall and it would be entertaining within itself. However if this effort is anything like Fox's last horror sequel -- The Hills Have Eyes 2 -- I'd rather gauge my eyes out.
Wrong Turn: $15 million domestic box office gross.
Jeepers Creepers: $40 million domestic box office gross.
High Tension: $4 million domestic box office gross.
The only one that should be counted in that is Jeepers Creepers. The sleeper success of that led to more horror films being greenlit by major studios such as Freedy Vs. Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, and Final Destinaiton 2. This is in addition to Lionsgate picking up a little film called Saw, which has history shown, spawned two sequels doing more than $80 million each.
I would say those specific films brought horror back to the forefront. For example, if it wasn't for Saw, The Hills Have Eyes and Hostel would've never got the attention or releases they got. If it wasn't for the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we wouldn't have the sequel, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and so on and so on. See where I'm going with this? There were films before and after the release of Wrong Turn that had an actual impact on the genre as a whole. You know why Wrong Turn and High Tension didn't have any impact? Because one, both films suck, and two, nobody fucking saw them.
The only reason I'm semi-interested in this direct-to-video trainwreck is because of Henry Rollins. The man could videotape himself painting a wall and it would be entertaining within itself. However if this effort is anything like Fox's last horror sequel -- The Hills Have Eyes 2 -- I'd rather gauge my eyes out.
Wrong Turn wasn't a brilliant movie, but as I sat in the theater I saw a glimpse of old school 70's and 80's horror for the first time in a long while (since before Scream, at least). It may not have been the one that started the more brutal TCM type horror movies making resurgence (who knows, maybe it WAS Wrong Turn and High Tension. Maybe it didn't make studios sit up, but perhaps a few directors did. I'd have to see what other movies I put in that category came out before 2003) but it was the first glimpse that I can recall.
I personally don't put Jeepers Creepers in the same sub-genre. Although the first half may somehow qualify (and was great), I hated the second half which made it a completely different movie.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Are you serious? Like really, are you serious?
Wrong Turn: $15 million domestic box office gross.
Jeepers Creepers: $40 million domestic box office gross.
High Tension: $4 million domestic box office gross.
The only one that should be counted in that is Jeepers Creepers. The sleeper success of that led to more horror films being greenlit by major studios such as Freedy Vs. Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, and Final Destinaiton 2. This is in addition to Lionsgate picking up a little film called Saw, which has history shown, spawned two sequels doing more than $80 million each.
I would say those specific films brought horror back to the forefront. For example, if it wasn't for Saw, The Hills Have Eyes and Hostel would've never got the attention or releases they got. If it wasn't for the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we wouldn't have the sequel, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and so on and so on. See where I'm going with this? There were films before and after the release of Wrong Turn that had an actual impact on the genre as a whole. You know why Wrong Turn and High Tension didn't have any impact? Because one, both films suck, and two, nobody fucking saw them.
The only reason I'm semi-interested in this direct-to-video trainwreck is because of Henry Rollins. The man could videotape himself painting a wall and it would be entertaining within itself. However if this effort is anything like Fox's last horror sequel -- The Hills Have Eyes 2 -- I'd rather gauge my eyes out.
Wrong Turn: $15 million domestic box office gross.
Jeepers Creepers: $40 million domestic box office gross.
High Tension: $4 million domestic box office gross.
The only one that should be counted in that is Jeepers Creepers. The sleeper success of that led to more horror films being greenlit by major studios such as Freedy Vs. Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, and Final Destinaiton 2. This is in addition to Lionsgate picking up a little film called Saw, which has history shown, spawned two sequels doing more than $80 million each.
I would say those specific films brought horror back to the forefront. For example, if it wasn't for Saw, The Hills Have Eyes and Hostel would've never got the attention or releases they got. If it wasn't for the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, we wouldn't have the sequel, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and so on and so on. See where I'm going with this? There were films before and after the release of Wrong Turn that had an actual impact on the genre as a whole. You know why Wrong Turn and High Tension didn't have any impact? Because one, both films suck, and two, nobody fucking saw them.
The only reason I'm semi-interested in this direct-to-video trainwreck is because of Henry Rollins. The man could videotape himself painting a wall and it would be entertaining within itself. However if this effort is anything like Fox's last horror sequel -- The Hills Have Eyes 2 -- I'd rather gauge my eyes out.
Saw was there too, but with all my love for this film, it's not pure horror, so I don't think it had that much of an impact on the genre. Well, along with others - yeah. But I doubt it was solely due to Saw we got to watch Hostel and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake.
Oh, Dave, you turned out to be here first while I was typing. Well, as I thought we can substitute each other here while one of us is on vacation - to deliver our thoughts
Last edited by Giggles; 07-21-07 at 02:36 PM.
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I totally agree with Giggles and DeputyDave here.
How many albums did the Sex Pistols sell? How many bands did they inspire?
Directors don't usually jump into the field for the financial benefit. They jump in for the love of moviemaking. "Wrong Turn" reminded people about old-school horror.
How many albums did the Sex Pistols sell? How many bands did they inspire?
Directors don't usually jump into the field for the financial benefit. They jump in for the love of moviemaking. "Wrong Turn" reminded people about old-school horror.
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OK, an early review is in from a reviewer I usually agree with: Bloody-Disgusting.com
Wow, my hope for this movie has almost swung 180 degrees. FYI, I just skimmed the review (mostly just the begining and end parts) because I didn't want any spoilers (I'm not sure if there are any, they're usually pretty good about that), but 4/5 skulls for a DtV sequel? I'm actually excited.
Wow, my hope for this movie has almost swung 180 degrees. FYI, I just skimmed the review (mostly just the begining and end parts) because I didn't want any spoilers (I'm not sure if there are any, they're usually pretty good about that), but 4/5 skulls for a DtV sequel? I'm actually excited.
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
OK, an early review is in from a reviewer I usually agree with: Bloody-Disgusting.com
Wow, my hope for this movie has almost swung 180 degrees. FYI, I just skimmed the review (mostly just the begining and end parts) because I didn't want any spoilers (I'm not sure if there are any, they're usually pretty good about that), but 4/5 skulls for a DtV sequel? I'm actually excited.
Wow, my hope for this movie has almost swung 180 degrees. FYI, I just skimmed the review (mostly just the begining and end parts) because I didn't want any spoilers (I'm not sure if there are any, they're usually pretty good about that), but 4/5 skulls for a DtV sequel? I'm actually excited.
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Thats a good step, and I'll wait and see what Dread Central gives it.
I'll probably still rent it though. I remember Rest Stop getting decent reviews, and that movie was torture to sit through.
I'll probably still rent it though. I remember Rest Stop getting decent reviews, and that movie was torture to sit through.
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Originally Posted by cerial442
Thats a good step, and I'll wait and see what Dread Central gives it.
I'll probably still rent it though. I remember Rest Stop getting decent reviews, and that movie was torture to sit through.
I'll probably still rent it though. I remember Rest Stop getting decent reviews, and that movie was torture to sit through.



