GRINDHOUSE: September
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
Well, either way, I think that Rodriguez on the Opie and Anthony Show does disprove you on one count.
I never said that there weren't plans to release them separately on DVD, even planned before the theatrical release took place, so Rodriguez mentioning that one day after it opened means nothing. Surely, after creating and producing (and probably even during production) of GH, all the parties involved discussed the possibilities of other various release versions including separate releases of the two films. Why not? More money for all.
That still doesn't change the fact that the whole concept and idea of this double-film was to be GRINDHOUSE, pure and simple - and that would mean a release of GRINDHOUSE on DVD. Absolutely no studio in their right mind would skip a DVD release of a film they released theatrically and that was successful - after all the name-awareness, marketing, and exposure. If GH had made $100 million, we wouldn't even be having this conversation - we would be seeing the separate releases and damn well for sure be seeing the full GH dvd as well. It was only after the film bombed theatrically did the rumors start that the full GH version may not be released on DVD. That's all.
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Originally Posted by man*machine
No it doesn't.
I never said that there weren't plans to release them separately on DVD, even planned before the theatrical release took place, so Rodriguez mentioning that one day after it opened means nothing. Surely, after creating and producing (and probably even during production) of GH, all the parties involved discussed the possibilities of other various release versions including separate releases of the two films. Why not? More money for all.
That still doesn't change the fact that the whole concept and idea of this double-film was to be GRINDHOUSE, pure and simple - and that would mean a release of GRINDHOUSE on DVD. Absolutely no studio in their right mind would skip a DVD release of a film they released theatrically and that was successful - after all the name-awareness, marketing, and exposure. If GH had made $100 million, we wouldn't even be having this conversation - we would be seeing the separate releases and damn well for sure be seeing the full GH dvd as well. It was only after the film bombed theatrically did the rumors start that the full GH version may not be released on DVD. That's all.
I never said that there weren't plans to release them separately on DVD, even planned before the theatrical release took place, so Rodriguez mentioning that one day after it opened means nothing. Surely, after creating and producing (and probably even during production) of GH, all the parties involved discussed the possibilities of other various release versions including separate releases of the two films. Why not? More money for all.
That still doesn't change the fact that the whole concept and idea of this double-film was to be GRINDHOUSE, pure and simple - and that would mean a release of GRINDHOUSE on DVD. Absolutely no studio in their right mind would skip a DVD release of a film they released theatrically and that was successful - after all the name-awareness, marketing, and exposure. If GH had made $100 million, we wouldn't even be having this conversation - we would be seeing the separate releases and damn well for sure be seeing the full GH dvd as well. It was only after the film bombed theatrically did the rumors start that the full GH version may not be released on DVD. That's all.
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When did Robert Rodriguez become the president of Weinstein Company's DVD department? He sure knows a lot about the marketing and release plans surely before anything was ever set in stone. Even before the theatrical release opens he's got all the answers as to what's going to come out. Tarantino , too. I'm still waiting for those promised extended KILL BILL, and separate SIN CITY releases.
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Well, my guess is it is Tarantino's fault that we don't have KB since he keeps claiming he's gonna cut it together and that when it happens there will be a theatrical release and all that. Plus, Quentin has a pretty checkered history of promising projects that haven't happened yet, so I expect the Weinsteins are waiting on him. And I don't think anyone ever suggested completely separate Sin City releases -- on the Uncut DVD the stories are presented separately on Disc 2, so I am pretty sure that is what was meant by that.
Either way, Quentin and Robert probably have a reasonable amount of control over their DVDs and I would believe Rodriguez would be in the know, but since the Opie and Anthony clip on the website edits this part of the interview out, I'll just let it go.
Either way, Quentin and Robert probably have a reasonable amount of control over their DVDs and I would believe Rodriguez would be in the know, but since the Opie and Anthony clip on the website edits this part of the interview out, I'll just let it go.
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Yeah, Sin City was never discussed as separate releases, it was always talked about as the three stories separated out so you could watch them by themselves, which is what we got.
Why would someone want separate, 40 minute releases?
Why would someone want separate, 40 minute releases?
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Yeah, Sin City was never discussed as separate releases, it was always talked about as the three stories separated out so you could watch them by themselves, which is what we got.
Why would someone want separate, 40 minute releases?
Why would someone want separate, 40 minute releases?
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Well, some interesting news about "Boulevard de la morte... un film grindhouse" premiering at Cannes with 30 additional minutes. According to today's Salon.com:
In what might be the most curious Cannes inclusion of all, Quentin Tarantino's car-chase extravaganza "Death Proof" has been stripped out of "Grindhouse," his high-concept collaboration with Robert Rodriguez, and will be pumped out to Euro-audiences as a freestanding film under the French title "Boulevard of Death." (To be specific: "Boulevard de la mort -- un film grindhouse.") Everyone involved claims this was planned all along -- there is no tradition of "grindhouse" theaters, or even double features, in Europe -- but my conclusions are twofold. 1) Robert Rodriguez must be pissed as hell. 2) QT better have some awesome shit in that extra footage, because the "Boulevard of Death" cut that screens here next Tuesday is 127 minutes, a full half-hour longer than its "Grindhouse" incarnation.
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Originally Posted by Richard Malloy
Well, some interesting news about "Boulevard de la morte... un film grindhouse" premiering at Cannes with 30 additional minutes. According to today's Salon.com:
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Everyone involved claims this was planned all along
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There was some worry that the UK was gonna botch Grindhouse so badly that Planet Terror would go direct to DVD, but I guess it has a poster over there now so that seems to say it won't.
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It's just me, but I have a feeling that Death Proof will be delayed just a little as the Weinsteins seem to view it as one of their Oscar vehicles (no pun intended) this year.
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It's just me, but I have a feeling that Death Proof will be delayed just a little as the Weinsteins seem to view it as one of their Oscar vehicles (no pun intended) this year.
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Could they do that? Wouldn't that be against the Academy guidelines?
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Could they do that? Wouldn't that be against the Academy guidelines?
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The one thing that has failed to be mentioned thus far is that Tarantino filmed an entire feature. The missing reel is an honest to goodness missing reel, and everything was shot already. It was always Tarantino's intention of releasing the "complete" version separately on DVD or in the theater.
Rodriquez, however, never shot nor intended to shot his missing reel. It even feels kinda obvious in Plant Terror that the missing reel was a gag, whereas in Death Proof it was a classic FU to the audience and a clear missing reel.
Plus some of the footage from the missing reel made it's way onto the Grindhouse trailer.
Rodriquez, however, never shot nor intended to shot his missing reel. It even feels kinda obvious in Plant Terror that the missing reel was a gag, whereas in Death Proof it was a classic FU to the audience and a clear missing reel.
Plus some of the footage from the missing reel made it's way onto the Grindhouse trailer.
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Originally Posted by WallyBB
The one thing that has failed to be mentioned thus far is that Tarantino filmed an entire feature. The missing reel is an honest to goodness missing reel, and everything was shot already. It was always Tarantino's intention of releasing the "complete" version separately on DVD or in the theater.
Rodriquez, however, never shot nor intended to shot his missing reel. It even feels kinda obvious in Plant Terror that the missing reel was a gag, whereas in Death Proof it was a classic FU to the audience and a clear missing reel.
Plus some of the footage from the missing reel made it's way onto the Grindhouse trailer.
Rodriquez, however, never shot nor intended to shot his missing reel. It even feels kinda obvious in Plant Terror that the missing reel was a gag, whereas in Death Proof it was a classic FU to the audience and a clear missing reel.
Plus some of the footage from the missing reel made it's way onto the Grindhouse trailer.
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well has anyone read Grindhouse: The Sleaze-filled Saga of an Exploitation Double Feature which has both films in script form, does it mirror the theatrical cut or are the 'cut' scenes included?
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Originally Posted by Giles
well has anyone read Grindhouse: The Sleaze-filled Saga of an Exploitation Double Feature which has both films in script form, does it mirror the theatrical cut or are the 'cut' scenes included?
It only has the Planet Terror script...and Yes, it includes the missing reel...plus much more. There totally could be a longer cut of Planet Terror.
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I think the missing reel in Planet Terror is hilarious.
I personally like slop's plan.
One disc, both movies (in HD, so the scratches are even sharper). Second disc, Planet Terror, the full movie. Third disc, Death Proof, the full movie.
Enjoy!
I personally like slop's plan.
One disc, both movies (in HD, so the scratches are even sharper). Second disc, Planet Terror, the full movie. Third disc, Death Proof, the full movie.
Enjoy!
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I'm not sure what I would do if it had 3 separate releases (1. Grindhouse complete theater version, 2. Planet Terror -restored, and 3. Death Proof -restored). I would most likely buy the double feature and rent the other two to see if the "restored" version is worth a buy.
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Just a bit of a head's up. To my knowledge there is no missing reel for Planet Terror; Rodriguez used the gimmick to skip a bunch of backstory.
Death Proof on the other hand definitely has a 'filmed' deleted reel.
Death Proof on the other hand definitely has a 'filmed' deleted reel.
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Variety has been covering the Cannes Film Festival, and has been churning out several reviews of this year's entries--they just put up their (neutral) review of the expanded Death Proof:
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VE1117933735
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VE1117933735
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
Variety has been covering the Cannes Film Festival, and has been churning out several reviews of this year's entries--they just put up their (neutral) review of the expanded Death Proof:
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VE1117933735
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VE1117933735
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From: tennessee
i think it's ridiculous that everyone has to wait until september. this movie should be out by the middle of july. since it's taking so long to release it, they better have something good up their sleeves because i'm craving another sit down with this classic.



